Employee drug testing. For or Against

I am personally for it with important or dangerous jobs but not jobs like working at McDonalds or Walmart/

Thoughts

Their property, their rules.

You can pretty much tell if someone is messed up on the job without having to have them pee in a cup. The medications I'm on are no ones business but that of my Doctors and myself.

For no matter what job. If I need assistance I'd prefer that the employee helping me wasn't high. Bruin4ev3r1520

I pretty much feel like it's a total waste of time for a large portion of the average jobs around just because of how easy it is to falsify the test. For a job where there is something critical or intelligent going on I would not see a problem with it.

I think in this economy it should be a must. It would be best to have a work force that is clean and doing a good descent job. Anyone who does not pass the test obviously isn't worried about their job. I'm for it and i will pass go !

I don't like it and I think it's incredibly stupid to test employees for marijuana (at least in entry level jobs), but it's their business, they can do what they please.

How could anyone be against it? :?

How could anyone be against it? :?

Pirate700

People have different opinions.Are u having a 10k post party btw?

How could anyone be against it? :?

Pirate700

How could anyone be against it? :?

Pirate700

It violates the doctor-patient privilege. These tests don't just uncover illegal drugs, but ALL drugs in your system.

Their property, their rules.

agturboninja

For it, I suppose.

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How could anyone be against it? :?

br0kenrabbit

It violates the doctor-patient privilege. These tests don't just uncover illegal drugs, but ALL drugs in your system.

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How could anyone be against it? :?

LJS9502_basic

I'm for it.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

How could anyone be against it? :?

LJS9502_basic

It violates the doctor-patient privilege. These tests don't just uncover illegal drugs, but ALL drugs in your system.

Exactly. Thus, it violates doctor-patient privilege. Like I said, it's no ones business what meds I'm on, that's part of the reason doctor-patient privilege exists.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

It violates the doctor-patient privilege. These tests don't just uncover illegal drugs, but ALL drugs in your system.

br0kenrabbit

Exactly. Thus, it violates doctor-patient privilege. Like I said, it's no ones business what meds I'm on, that's part of the reason doctor-patient privilege exists.

It's become commonplace so I guess I have to accept it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't really see what business it is of my employer what I do in my free time, as long as the company isn't suffering. jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

It violates the doctor-patient privilege. These tests don't just uncover illegal drugs, but ALL drugs in your system.

br0kenrabbit

Exactly. Thus, it violates doctor-patient privilege. Like I said, it's no ones business what meds I'm on, that's part of the reason doctor-patient privilege exists.

No. That is incorrrect. Doctor patient privilege means they can't force your doctor to tell them your medical history.:|LJS9502_basic

Incorrect. Doctor-patient privilege extends to treatment, which includes prescribed drugs.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]It's become commonplace so I guess I have to accept it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't really see what business it is of my employer what I do in my free time, as long as the company isn't suffering. Pirate700

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]It's become commonplace so I guess I have to accept it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't really see what business it is of my employer what I do in my free time, as long as the company isn't suffering. jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. That is incorrrect. Doctor patient privilege means they can't force your doctor to tell them your medical history.:|br0kenrabbit

Incorrect. Doctor-patient privilege extends to treatment, which includes prescribed drugs.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]They have the right to know if they have a druggie receiving their money.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] I don't really agree. I don't think they have a right to know anything about my personal life that I don't want them to know. jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Then you have the right to not work there if you don't like it.

LJS9502_basic

And if my boss feels my performance is poor, he can approach me to discuss it and deliver an ultimatum or he can find somebody else, but I don't appreciate being told to piss into a beaker to show my subservience.

Drug usage affects work performance.....LJS9502_basic

I'm for it. Drug free is the way to be...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] Absolutely, and that's what I said in my original post: I have to accept it. For the record though, I don't think it's ok that an employer should feel in a position to demand I urinate into a pot so he can find out more about my private life. I think there should be a clear boundary between personal and professional lives.jimmyjammer69

And if my boss feels my performance is poor, he can approach me to discuss it and deliver an ultimatum or he can find somebody else, but I don't appreciate being told to piss into a beaker to show my subservience.

It's become commonplace so I guess I have to accept it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't really see what business it is of my employer what I do in my free time, as long as the company isn't suffering. jimmyjammer69

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Drug usage affects work performance.....LJS9502_basic

And if my boss feels my performance is poor, he can approach me to discuss it and deliver an ultimatum or he can find somebody else, but I don't appreciate being told to piss into a beaker to show my subservience.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Then you have the right to not work there if you don't like it.

LJS9502_basic

Then they can fire someone for poor performance, and skip the drug test entirely.

Anyway, I don't exactly have a problem with drug testing. But I do think that in most cases they're probably useless.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

And if my boss feels my performance is poor, he can approach me to discuss it and deliver an ultimatum or he can find somebody else, but I don't appreciate being told to piss into a beaker to show my subservience.

jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] Absolutely, and that's what I said in my original post: I have to accept it. For the record though, I don't think it's ok that an employer should feel in a position to demand I urinate into a pot so he can find out more about my private life. I think there should be a clear boundary between personal and professional lives.MrGeezer

Then they can fire someone for poor performance, and skip the drug test entirely.

Anyway, I don't exactly have a problem with drug testing. But I do think that in most cases they're probably useless.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

And if my boss feels my performance is poor, he can approach me to discuss it and deliver an ultimatum or he can find somebody else, but I don't appreciate being told to piss into a beaker to show my subservience.

jimmyjammer69

I predict this thread is going to get a lot of posts.But when I mean a lot I really mean it...

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then don't take the job.:|LJS9502_basic

for.

considering drugs are illegal.

and i dont want people who do bad things working for me. or around me. or at somewhere where i might go... to buy something...

yeah....

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] This is a question on what we think about drug testing in the workplace and I'm giving my opinion. If you feel fine with being under constant suspicion, that's great but I think it's humiliating.jimmyjammer69

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Drug usage affects work performance.....LJS9502_basic

Then they can fire someone for poor performance, and skip the drug test entirely.

Anyway, I don't exactly have a problem with drug testing. But I do think that in most cases they're probably useless.

And I never argued against that.

I'm just saying that in a lot of cases, drug testing doesn't do crap. One guy will lose the job because he smoked pot two weeks ago. Another guy then passes the drug test, and calls in every Sunday because he's hung over from the night before.

And LOL at the comment from the guy who said he doesn't want a high waiter. Drugs use among people in the restaurant industry? Oh god, that NEVER happens! :lol:

But yeah, whatever. If employers want to waste their time and money on drug tests, then that isn't my business.