Every atheist should read this book..

Seriousy this CAN change your mind, it's simply a brilliant work and well worth a purchase trust me.

http://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Rationality-Knowledge-Truth-Mirza/dp/1853726400

You can also read it online here but I would really suggest to buy it and read it fully from scratch.

While it's gonna take a long time to read it, if someone found it helpful, do report back.:)

Believers should read into logical/scientific books! :o

I went there....

I dont get why some people cant just let people believe what they want to believe.. Taggsai

Browsing through some of that is like Answers in Genesis rewritten by Muslims. >_> 'It is inconceivable for these measures to have been planned and executed by a mere blind collusion of chances.' Falsely equating evolution with random chance... check. :roll:Funky_Llama

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Believers should read into logical/scientific books! :o

I went there....

ps3wizard45

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Browsing through some of that is like Answers in Genesis rewritten by Muslims. >_> 'It is inconceivable for these measures to have been planned and executed by a mere blind collusion of chances.' Falsely equating evolution with random chance... check. :roll:Stranger_4

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What can a single book do if no other religious person in the world has managed to convince us up to this point?unholymight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Tahir_Ahmad

Yes. Of course. Because as we all know every atheist became an atheist because he/she read a particular book, and by reading this one, the "baaad effects" of the previous will be reversed.... >_>Teenaged

Don't you know how silly and impressionable those non-believers are? I mean come on, we all know that they're all just edgy middle school kids that wear shirts like this:

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

Believers should read into logical/scientific books! :o

I went there....

Stranger_4

I don't car either...

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

Believers should read into logical/scientific books! :o

I went there....

Stranger_4

[QUOTE="unholymight"]What can a single book do if no other religious person in the world has managed to convince us up to this point?Stranger_4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Tahir_Ahmad

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Browsing through some of that is like Answers in Genesis rewritten by Muslims. >_> 'It is inconceivable for these measures to have been planned and executed by a mere blind collusion of chances.' Falsely equating evolution with random chance... check. :roll:Funky_Llama

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[QUOTE="unholymight"]What can a single book do if no other religious person in the world has managed to convince us up to this point?Stranger_4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Tahir_Ahmad

Who said that? Just wondering, because simply saying it's a scientific rebuttal does not make it one :P.

Plus, someone who uses the phrase "Godless theories" isn't exactly someone I would trust on opinions like these...

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]Is it? Maybe it is just saying that? Did you just read the entire thing already? Do you know in what context it was saying that?

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Stranger_4

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yes. Of course. Because as we all know every atheist became an atheist because he/she read a particular book, and by reading this one, the "baaad effects" of the previous will be reversed.... >_>Blood-Scribe

Don't you know how silly and impressionable those non-believers are? I mean come on, we all know that they're all just edgy middle school kids that wear shirts like this:

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

Wait. I am 18,... and I am agnostic. Should I read the book and be enlightened? :o

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Yes. I read the bit preceding. What you see there is exactly what it means in context. And quite simply, I don't see why I should read a book written by someone so obviously ignorant of what they're talking about.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="unholymight"]What can a single book do if no other religious person in the world has managed to convince us up to this point?Stranger_4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Tahir_Ahmad

A. Try using a source that hasn't obviously been edited by an anti-Dawkins fundie.

B. His so called "rebuttal" was merely a fallacious "life is too complicated to arise by chance!" argument.

C. It wasn't even scientific.

"A clear blow to the god of Natural Selection!" Mmmm, think I'll passxaos

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yes. Of course. Because as we all know every atheist became an atheist because he/she read a particular book, and by reading this one, the "baaad effects" of the previous will be reversed.... >_>Blood-Scribe

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

really.. im in denial because I believe in logic, science, and evolution?

99% of christians became christians because their parents told them too.

99% of atheists became atheists because they used logic, and believed in science.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]Where did you read that, show me?Stranger_4

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yes. Of course. Because as we all know every atheist became an atheist because he/she read a particular book, and by reading this one, the "baaad effects" of the previous will be reversed.... >_>Teenaged

Don't you know how silly and impressionable those non-believers are? I mean come on, we all know that they're all just edgy middle school kids that wear shirts like this:

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

[QUOTE="unholymight"]What can a single book do if no other religious person in the world has managed to convince us up to this point?chessmaster1989

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Tahir_Ahmad

Who said that? Just wondering, because simply saying it's a scientific rebuttal does not make it one :P.

Plus, someone who uses the phrase "Godless theories" isn't exactly someone I would trust on opinions like these...

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yes. Of course. Because as we all know every atheist became an atheist because he/she read a particular book, and by reading this one, the "baaad effects" of the previous will be reversed.... >_>porky_ownsu

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

really.. im in denial because I believe in logic, science, and evolution?

99% of christians became christians because their parents told them too.

99% of atheists became atheists because they used logic, and believed in science.

lrn2sarcasm.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Don't you know how silly and impressionable those non-believers are? I mean come on, we all know that they're all just edgy middle school kids that wear shirts like this:

Anyone who is over 18 and is a non-believer is seriously kidding themselves, and needs to read that book.

SpaceMoose

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Sure. http://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_5_section_5.html

Funky_Llama

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/EvolutionNotByChance.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

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Who made an ad hominem attack? Me?Teenaged

What da **** are you talking about? You think there's nothing "random" about evolution? You think hez a complete tool whoz disucussing that and no one else is ignorant enough?:lol: Loooooool look whoz the ignorant one!!!!

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/EvolutionNotByChance.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

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Stranger_4

"The theory of evolution -- and it is just that, a theory -- "

Stopped reading there. If they can't tell the difference between conjecture and scientific theory, then their attack on evolution is probably just as misconstrued and poorly researched.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]The title of the chapter is "survival by accident or design". It is just discussing a particular argument, what's wrong with that?:?Stranger_4

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/EvolutionNotByChance.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

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[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

What da **** are you talking about? You think there's nothing "random" about evolution? You think hez a complete tool whoz disucussing that and no one else is ignorant enough?:lol: Loooooool look whoz the ignorant one!!!!

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/EvolutionNotByChance.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

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metroidfood

"The theory of evolution -- and it is just that, a theory -- "

Stopped reading there. If they can't tell the difference between conjecture and scientific theory, then their attack on evolution is probably just as misconstrued and poorly researched.