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There are good bands around now, but are any of them innovative like the old days? Will any of them be rememebred and mentioned as influences by future bands?

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#2 LJS9502_basic Online

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Undoubtedly......

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Well, you pretty much answered your own question.

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*Points To Sig*

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#5 steppinrazor88

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i have no idea....but being a green day fan....i vote for green day!!!

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There are good bands around now, but are any of them innovative like the old days? Will any of them be rememebred and mentioned as influences by future bands?Film-Guy

the last influential bands were back in the 90's so far there has not been much but in the next three years or so there might be something.

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#7 Buffalo_Soulja

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I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.

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#8 Quack_Attack

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]There are good bands around now, but are any of them innovative like the old days? Will any of them be rememebred and mentioned as influences by future bands?mark4091

the last influential bands were back in the 90's so far there has not been much but in the next three years or so there might be something.

Yes, because those bands influenced what's happening now. Wait ten years, then the current stuff will be influencing that stuff.

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#9 senecaboyer88

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no...its going to be known for bad music... horrible rap music... horrible rock music (if you even want to call it rock music)

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#10 gamefreakomega

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Obviously, bands of the future will be influenced by bands of today.

Not everyone listens exclusively to music from the 60s/70s.

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#11 Diablo112688

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There has been nothing groundbreaking in a long time... keep waiting I guess.

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#12 Nisstyre_56

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I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Buffalo_Soulja

Link Wray was extremely innovative, you know inventing those power chords and all. I believe he is considered a musician that is very "old"

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I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Buffalo_Soulja

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

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#14 texranger17

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I think that we have to wait a couple of years, the bands that are remembered in the future have done something that sets them apart from other bands, you can't only be really good, and have many fans. Your music has to move people and it has to live for generations to come.

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Of course. Popular culture has an influence on anyone who lives as a part of it or with people who do....no matter how insignificant it may seem.

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i have no idea....but being a green day fan....i vote for green day!!!steppinrazor88

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but Green Day didnt innovate crap:|

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#17 Some_Republican

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broken social scene, modest mouse, the flaming lips, the decemberists. i guess there are others but i cant really think straight right now

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#18 Quack_Attack

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[QUOTE="steppinrazor88"]i have no idea....but being a green day fan....i vote for green day!!!Film-Guy

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but Green Day didnt innovate crap:|

A punk rock opera?

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#19 Some_Republican

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[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Film-Guy

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

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#20 senecaboyer88

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

i think we can throw Little John and The Eastside Boyz feat the Ying Yang Twins in there as the most influential people of there time...

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Whether or not the current generation will be remembered, the next artist/band to have a big impact will have been influenced by today's music.

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Frank Zappa came before YES:|

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#23 Nisstyre_56

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Meh, they didn't really innovate much. They're still good, the bassist is very skilled for Yes. But they didn't innovate as much as other artists

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#24 Some_Republican

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[QUOTE="Some_Republican"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Film-Guy

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Frank Zappa came before YES:|

is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesome

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#25 Diablo112688

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Lil John I kind of admire... No talent whatsoever and says the same bull crap every second.. yet he is rich.

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these were the last rock albums that impressed me.

http://rockosaurus.web-log.nl/rockosaurus/images/frost01.jpg

http://www.tempi-duri.it/recensioni/tangent.jpg

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#27 LJS9502_basic Online

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Correct....

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Some_Republican"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Frank Zappa came before YES:|

is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesome

I think so, this is one of his best songs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w9cRU1kjnfc

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#29 Nisstyre_56

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Some_Republican"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Some_Republican

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Frank Zappa came before YES:|

is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesome

Hard to say, he released 72 full albums

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#30 gamefreakomega

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[QUOTE="Some_Republican"] is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesome

I'm pretty sure thats Edgar Winters....

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[QUOTE="Some_Republican"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Some_Republican"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"]I'm curious as to who you think is innovative from the old days.Nisstyre_56

okay then.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Frank Zappa were innovative because they pretty much started progressive rock { my favorite forbidden>

i think Yes would be the true innovators of the genre

Frank Zappa came before YES:|

is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesome

Hard to say, he released 72 full albums

he was amazing, so sad he died:cry:

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#32 LJS9502_basic Online

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is that the dude who sings the song frankenstein, cause that songs awesomeSome_Republican

Are you sure you're not thinking of Edgar Winter?

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#33 MetallicaKings

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britney spears, more or less

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As bad as the music is.. you gotta admit, Lil Jon and atlanta crunk was very influential. Almost every rap artist now has a crunk style influence. Especially in the south. And he even incorporated rock into his rap music...

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#35 Nisstyre_56

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britney spears, more or lessMetallicaKings

:lol:

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Crunk music was probably the biggest ground breaking style since the year 2000. Even if you hate it, it's true.

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10 years from now music will sound different. Therefore, today's music innovated into the form that it will be in 10 years from now. Music is changing, therefore is innovating.

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#38 LJS9502_basic Online

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10 years from now music will sound different. Therefore, today's music innovated into the form that it will be in 10 years from now. Music is changing, therefore is innovating. Luncbox1

The only problem with the music today is most bands are recycling older bands....and not innovating.

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There are good bands around now, but are any of them innovative like the old days? Will any of them be rememebred and mentioned as influences by future bands?Film-Guy

These days, usually what happens is that a band has to be derivative just to become popular. Then once they become popular, they get criticized when they try to expand their horizons. When the band changes their stuff up, their fans usually label them sellouts or something, and the non-fans still don't care about them.

There are exceptions though. For example Radiohead. Radiohead started out as crap, but then they started getting more original after they started to get big. And instead of criticizing them for diversifying themselves, people praised them for diversifying themselves. Of course, it probably helped that they started being more innovative very soon after they became popular. If Radiohead had waited longer, they probably would've become typecast as a certain kind of band, and then their fans would ditch them as soon as they tried to branch out.

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#40 Mr_Manikin52

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For Rock Music: Coheed and Cambria

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]10 years from now music will sound different. Therefore, today's music innovated into the form that it will be in 10 years from now. Music is changing, therefore is innovating. LJS9502_basic

The only problem with the music today is most bands are recycling older bands....and not innovating.

yeah, but if you think about it, that happens all the time in music. Think of the 80s hair metal bands. They got to the point to where they were all playing the same songs, same singer, same ballads at the same times, same hair, etc. Yet music still broke away from that stage. And it will again, I can predict that with 100% confidence.

this stagnation was also present in the 50s show tune singers, before the British invasion.

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#42 steppinrazor88

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[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]britney spears, more or lessNisstyre_56

:lol:

don't laugh dude...her music impacts alot of ppl dude....seriously....

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#43 LJS9502_basic Online

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]10 years from now music will sound different. Therefore, today's music innovated into the form that it will be in 10 years from now. Music is changing, therefore is innovating. Luncbox1

The only problem with the music today is most bands are recycling older bands....and not innovating.

yeah, but if you think about it, that happens all the time in music. Think of the 80s hair metal bands. They got to the point to where they were all playing the same songs, same singer, same ballads at the same times, same hair, etc. Yet music still broke away from that stage. And it will again, I can predict that with 100% confidence.

They were all in the same time frame though......grunge killed the hair metal and wasn't directly influenced by metal except for a few bands.

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#45 LJS9502_basic Online

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[QUOTE="Nisstyre_56"][QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]britney spears, more or lesssteppinrazor88

:lol:

don't laugh dude...her music impacts alot of ppl dude....seriously....

She's not innovative nor doing anything that hasn't been done before. Plus, she'll be on the whatever happened to shows....not the 100 greatest shows.

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#46 Custodian405

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Well if we are going by decade here than the 00's aren't doing to good right now. If we are going by generation than we can put the 90's in there and (although im not the biggest fan) Nirvana will be remembered for quite a while to come.

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]10 years from now music will sound different. Therefore, today's music innovated into the form that it will be in 10 years from now. Music is changing, therefore is innovating. LJS9502_basic

The only problem with the music today is most bands are recycling older bands....and not innovating.

yeah, but if you think about it, that happens all the time in music. Think of the 80s hair metal bands. They got to the point to where they were all playing the same songs, same singer, same ballads at the same times, same hair, etc. Yet music still broke away from that stage. And it will again, I can predict that with 100% confidence.

They were all in the same time frame though......grunge killed the hair metal and wasn't directly influenced by metal except for a few bands.

But what you're describing still applies to today's situation. The emo/punk rock genre is sitting in a cesspool of rinse and repeat, and I'm sure some new genre will spring off of it, or rock, or of rap, techno, etc. Then music will have changed. This new genre will be called... ploofa! :P I hold copyright privledges, so don't think of stealing. 8)

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#48 senecaboyer88

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Lil John I kind of admire... No talent whatsoever and says the same bull crap every second.. yet he is rich. Diablo112688

me 2.....i want that...doesnt have to work a day in his life, pretty much has more money than any of us will ever have....all because he makes noises and a whole step below awful music....i want that in life... Now hes all famous and "pimpin"....but when you see his high school picture...do you figure he would have ended up like this??

doesnt look like the popular type if you ask me...

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#49 Laserwolf65

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nope

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#50 LJS9502_basic Online

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But what you're describing still applies to today's situation. The emo/punk rock genre is sitting in a cesspool of rinse and repeat, and I'm sure some new genre will spring off of it, or rock, or of rap, techno, etc. Then music will have changed. This new genre will be called... ploofa! :P I hold copyright privledges, so don't think of stealing. 8)Luncbox1

My actual point was that the bands becoming popular right now are recycling older bands....and not innovating. I would think eventually a band or two will step up....but as it stands today...none are. Most bands that were creating a different "style" music were known to be doing so. Now, it's just copy.

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