Every one who hates the Iraq war, you should know something

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But we have to defend ourselves. If we leave you know how happy those terrorist will be happy? They can't wait for us to leave so they can come over here.

Hewkii

no, actually they love it more when we're there. it raises support for their side.

al Qaeda couldn't have imagined a better recruiting campaign than the Iraq war if they tried.

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Fox News is also democratically controlled? MattUD1

Nope, even worse....it's under commie control.

The commies are trying to make Fox News look bad by "showcasing Rightwing propaganda" as you so elegantly put it. Don't act as if you don't know this!

[QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

But we have to defend ourselves. If we leave you know how happy those terrorist will be happy? They can't wait for us to leave so they can come over here.

Hewkii

no, actually they love it more when we're there. it raises support for their side.

yeah but there fighting us, and can't plan as good as they would if we weren't there.

yeah but there fighting us, and can't plan as good as they would if we weren't there.

xSIZEMATTER

oppression tends to make people want to "fight the power".

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Fox News is also democratically controlled? jointed

Nope, even worse....it's under commie control.

The commies are trying to make Fox News look bad by "showcasing Rightwing propaganda" as you so elegantly put it. Don't act as if you don't know this!

Going into Iraq was a huge mistake. The US should have concentrated on Afghanistan, and perhaps looked at dropping the hammer on Iran.

dsmccracken

You put Iran in the equation and I say going into Iraq was a good idea. Iran is no Iraq. A military strike against Iran would have disastrous global consequences and believe me, the U.S. does not want to go down this path.

All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?Dracargen

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?joeytentz

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

This sounds incredibly similar to that evil Democratic media.:|

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?joeytentz

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

Please explain why the western world deserves it...

This sounds incredibly similar to that evil Democratic media.:|

Dracargen

Why don't you support the New World Order?

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?jointed

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

Please explain why the western world deserves it...

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

No offense, but the only guy i've spoken to on this forum which was pro-iraq war thought the war was over al queda operating in Iraq. :?

It's very simple; the american and british governments told their respective people that Saddam had some of the world's most dangerous weapons, and that he had every intention of deploying them. It was also claimed by bush that he sought nuclear weapons in visiting nigeria, and that he had links to 9/11. None of that was true.

Therefore, to be anti-war in Iraq is perfectly justifiable. Dont be so dismissive as to say none of us know what we're talking about when it's all so very simple; two governments lied to two nations, dragging them into a war which has killed hundreds of brave young men and women, and tens of thousands of civilians, over a pack of lies. To this day we dont know why we really went to war in the middle east.

I know one thing that is happening... puppies are getting thrown off cliffs...

But on a serious note... I am pro-war... I just think we should reduce the troop count... the Iraqi Army of 100,000+ troops can more than handle itself if it gets past religion(Shia and Sunni in the same army)... I don't think we need 165,000 troops in Iraq... I am not saying we should pull out completely and leave Iraq down crap's creek without a paddle... I just am tired of turning on the news and seeing another local soldier is dead because of an IED... 95%+ of the US soldiers killed in Iraq have been killed out of combat by IEDs and traps... It is annoying that we invaded and completely destroyed the 200,000 strong Iraqi Army under Sadam with no casualties... but have lost 3,000+ troops after that to things like a howitzer shell in the back of an old car...

I just think we need an advisor force to continue to work with the Iraqi Army and government... A small peace keeping force to monitor the country while the Iraqi Army gets its feet on the ground... and a small marine force to watch our Embassy... just like every other country in the world...

Squeets

If you honestly think that's all we need, you have no idea how much combat there is in Iraq and Afghanistan on a daily basis. Look at afghanistan as an example; the british 1st anglian battalion haven't had a single day go by without contact with the enemy in over a year.

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

joeytentz

World War 1 and 2? Heard of either of them? :?

Plus; how is that even close to a fair comparison when neither the UK nor America had genocidal dictatorship regimes in power for decades, put in place by foreign super powers?

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?joeytentz

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

Please explain why the western world deserves it...

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

[QUOTE="joeytentz"]

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

Ninja-Hippo

World War 1 and 2? Heard of either of them? :?

Plus; how is that even close to a fair comparison when neither the UK nor America had genocidal dictatorship regimes in power for decades, put in place by foreign super powers?

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="joeytentz"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]All righty then, what, exactly, is going on over there?joeytentz

Americans are spilling their blood to supposedly bring freedom to people that don't understand nor deserve it.

War is a racket.

Please explain why the western world deserves it...

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

You didn't fight for your freedom...I didn't fight for mine. Our ancestors handed it to us on a silver plate.

You didn't fight for your freedom...I didn't fight for mine. Our ancestors handed it to us on a silver plate.

jointed

Yep and we're throwing it all away now. :(

How many of you have read a page of literature about the war? None of you right? You only listen to what the democratic media tells you. You guys have no idea what is happening over there. So please, stop blathering on about stuff you don't have a clue about.monkeytoes61

I'm with you bro. Lets go invade another country and kill their women and children. Long Live America!!!!

Westerners fought for their own freedom, they did not have outsiders come in and "give" it to them.

joeytentz

freedom isn't democracy; one could argue they're fighting for freedom now (some anyway; others just want the people in the first catagory to hate us).

I just don't get the "if we leave they'll follow us home" arguement.. Do people think terrorists are physically kept inside Iraq by the U.S forces? Nothing what so ever is keeping "the terrortist" from "coming over here"... I'd also be interested to know what "literature" about the war the TC has been reading. shivaskunk9mm

What terrorists? Again; has the government successfully convinced us all that Iraq was a haven of terrorists before we went there? Why is someone who plants a bomb to kill invading soldiers a terrorist?

[QUOTE="shivaskunk9mm"]I just don't get the "if we leave they'll follow us home" arguement.. Do people think terrorists are physically kept inside Iraq by the U.S forces? Nothing what so ever is keeping "the terrortist" from "coming over here"... I'd also be interested to know what "literature" about the war the TC has been reading. Ninja-Hippo

What terrorists? Again; has the government successfully convinced us all that Iraq was a haven of terrorists before we went there? Why is someone who plants a bomb to kill invading soldiers a terrorist?

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]How many of you have read a page of literature about the war? None of you right? You only listen to what the democratic media tells you. You guys have no idea what is happening over there. So please, stop blathering on about stuff you don't have a clue about.monkeytoes61

What is this 'democratic media' you speak of. Is it everything other than Fox News and conservative radio? I'm just asking, cause I heard Bill-O yelling about how CNN is a loony far left station, and I couldn't disagree more.

Obviously you haven't seen lou dobbs have one of his immigration rants. Maybe you think he's just a red herring for the liberal media to fool us.

Psst.. did you know that anderson cooper was a cia agent. Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, SAVE US!!!! Now if you can admit your side of the media is ridiculous then maybe we can all just turn our tvs off and read a little. No wait most authors are liberals too.