Everyone Immortal

I don't see how immortality can work in a society. We are far from immortality but its possible.

Weather its by God, or by human technological advancement. Immortality seems almost impossible to substain. what happens when more people are born and no one is dieing?

all im saying is i never hear people talk about how an immortal society could even work.

Two things would have to happen. There were have to be a no baby policy (or a queue for when one person dies, someone else can have a kid), and there would have to be some way for us not to have to work for all eternity because that would be horrible.

That's because the few of us who are immortal want to keep this stuff quiet,

I think you're contradicting yourself. That being said, overpopulation :P

As we are now, mere immortality of this flesh and our lives as we live now is not something I would ever want. However immorality with glorified bodies which are fundamentally changed so that we are disposed to commit evil and sin is the ideal in which we worship God is the only way such a society could be maintained.

Two things would have to happen. There were have to be a no baby policy (or a queue for when one person dies, someone else can have a kid), and there would have to be some way for us not to have to work for all eternity because that would be horrible.

Pirate700

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Two things would have to happen. There were have to be a no baby policy (or a queue for when one person dies, someone else can have a kid), and there would have to be some way for us not to have to work for all eternity because that would be horrible.

IustitiaMaximus

As we are now, mere immortality of this flesh and our lives as we live now is not something I would ever want. However immorality with glorified bodies which are fundamentally changed so that we are disposed to commit evil and sin is the ideal in which we worship God is the only way such a society could be maintained.

Philokalia

Pretty sure everyone would go insane.BranKetra

The increase in population would have to stop.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Pretty sure everyone would go insane.Pirate700

The increase in population would have to stop.

muller39

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The increase in population would have to stop.

Pirate700

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The increase in population would have to stop.

Pirate700

Does that count for complete immortality or just biological immortality? Because people will still die in countless other fashions.

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The increase in population would have to stop.

Pirate700

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The increase in population would have to stop.

ChampionoChumps

If 2001: A Space Odyssey has taught me anything, we'll need to transfer our thoughts into the very fabric of space itself for that to happen.

On a related note, that book was a crazy mix of scientific fact, wild conjecture, theoretical physics, and sheer lunacy. :Pmattbbpl

The world wouldnt be able to sustain all those people. Hell the world wont be able to sustain us forever, a race built on fossil fuels and limited resources. We would most definitely have to stop reproducing. We'd probably just end up floating around in space eventually.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]If 2001: A Space Odyssey has taught me anything, we'll need to transfer our thoughts into the very fabric of space itself for that to happen.

On a related note, that book was a crazy mix of scientific fact, wild conjecture, theoretical physics, and sheer lunacy. :PBranKetra

It can't work, there can only be one.metroidprime55

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]If 2001: A Space Odyssey has taught me anything, we'll need to transfer our thoughts into the very fabric of space itself for that to happen.

On a related note, that book was a crazy mix of scientific fact, wild conjecture, theoretical physics, and sheer lunacy. :Pmattbbpl

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]And making people immortal would have to happen in waves to let some of the current older population die off (maybe the 70+ crowd). If we made everyone immortal right now, just the current pregnant women over the next 9 months would completely over populate the earth.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] No... they wouldn't. The earth can sustain many more than the current population. If everyone on earth lived like Americans that wouldn't be the case however.ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes, they would, in terms of a world we actually want to live in.

Pirate700

I'm quite certain there's no way it could work. I'm not sure why anyone would want to be immortal anyway.

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] No... they wouldn't. The earth can sustain many more than the current population. If everyone on earth lived like Americans that wouldn't be the case however.ChampionoChumps

Someone is a skilled wikipedia user.

If everyone was truly immortal then our world would be better. No one would start wars because it wouldn't get them anywhere. But I could see how criminals would try to do whatever they want, but as long as they can be locked up that is fine. No one would need to eat. Our economy would be focused on pleasure/entertainment.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes, they would, in terms of a world we actually want to live in.

Hubadubalubahu

Someone is a skilled wikipedia user.

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] There's 133 million babies born each year, therefore there would be a ~90 million increase in population over the course of those next 9 months. Considering the earth's population of humans in the year 1800 was 1 billion and people were making similar predictions of overpopulation, I don't think another 100 million would kill off society.ChampionoChumps

Someone is a skilled wikipedia user.

As we are now, mere immortality of this flesh and our lives as we live now is not something I would ever want. However immorality with glorified bodies which are fundamentally changed so that we are disposed to commit evil and sin is the ideal in which we worship God is the only way such a society could be maintained.

Philokalia

If people are immortal, then the effects of the J curve would accelerate thus we'll die out faster.

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As we are now, mere immortality of this flesh and our lives as we live now is not something I would ever want. However immorality with glorified bodies which are fundamentally changed so that we are "NOT"disposed to commit evil and sin is the ideal in which we worship God is the only way such a society could be maintained.

NEWMAHAY

Forgive me I forgot to add the "not" into the sentence.

Now are we immortal or invincible. Immortal can be a number of things that are not mortal. If we just live a really long time and are stronegr and stuff there will be a massive war that will destroy most of continents of planet (maybe even moon). Then the remaining people will either have to hide or not depending on what happened. Now if we are invincible you would have to mind wipe everyone and lock them in a conatiner and then put it at the bottom of the ocean. That way they are braindead and cannot suffer but at the same time they are out of mind and out of sight. Then one day one will break free after the world's population evolves back to normal humans after a million years. And then we have immortals popping up everywhere and the only recors of what happened were stored by the original immortals underground. I think I just got the plot for my 120 page final script for my screen and teleplay writing class. :shock:

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Someone is a skilled wikipedia user.

Hubadubalubahu

Honestly bud, I use wiki. Its a solid site with easily accessible information and is key in situations like the one you were in. The info was impossible to know off the top of your head. I just like calling people out on it. The fact you got angry is stupid in itself. Sorry man didnt really mean to push buttons.Hubadubalubahu

I don't see how immortality can work in a society. We are far from immortality but its possible.playmynutz

You're living in a fantasy world. Immortality is not possible for normal humans. It's only possible if you are a deity or a metahuman but for a regular human like me immortality is not achievable.

[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]It can't work, there can only be one.Pirate700