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#51 Brainkiller05
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I was on board for a minute
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#52 BlindBluMonstah
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[QUOTE="Reach01"][QUOTE="-FlyLo-"] Its a conspiracy.-FlyLo-
And how exactly did you conclude to that logic.. Judging from the time I started this thread and your post you could not have seen both videos by now..

You actually think I bothered to watch those conspiracy theories and lies? No thank you sir, I have better ways to spend 20 minutes of my life. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch some porn.

hmmmms 20 minutes eyy. ..... .. . . . . . goes and watches P-opc-ORN HEH xP

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#53 SenorGuapo
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What if it really is all like the matrix, and what we perceive might as well be nothing, or maybe something similar to what we see but more abstract in reality, and we are deceived by our own senses. Just as we dream, u can have vivid dreams in where u really hold an object, see colours, and feel! hurt. How is our "real" life any different? Maybe we truly are all in the matrix hehe
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#54 SenorGuapo
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Im not saying i believe it, but it gives u stuff to think about, and all the people talking about conspiracy should be thinking about it rather then disregarding it before watching. U dont have to believe it, but it gives u insight and a way to think outside the box. If people didnt think about it, and we wouldnt have great philosophers. What would we know about ourself?
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#55 clembo1990
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Kid, read up on Neitzsche, this is common knowledge.
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#56 SenorGuapo
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People will soon in the future have the ability to recreate the feeling, vision, and sounds of being on a vacation. Just by stimulating and giving electronic pulses to the brain. We can exactly copy the same exact feel as if we we're really on the beach in hawaii. Maybe in time technology is so sophisticated, we create our own avatar "human being" and give him electronic pulses in order for him to sense his world. Maybe we are all being played like the sims, but not by a God, but maybe a highly intelligent human race with superiour technology. I know i know, thats way out there, and i just made that up. But what im saying is. The vid makes u think, its not a conspiracy cause fraqnkly, i wont be thinking about it later today, but it does make u think right? Heck maybe in the future, human kind would laugh at itself for ever believing that matter was the ultimate reality
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#57 SenorGuapo
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Kid, read up on Neitzsche, this is common knowledge.clembo1990
Are u talking to me?
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#58 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Kid, read up on Neitzsche, this is common knowledge.SenorGuapo
Are u talking to me?

No, I was just joking to the OP. There is no spoon :o
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#59 SenorGuapo
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hehe yes well maybe there isnt, but on the other hand, the human race, the whole universe has a history, it was here before us. So its hard deny that, IF it we're all just programmed
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#60 foxhound_fox
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Hmm... they claim its not a philosophical position and yet it is basically a modern reprint of Vedanta and Theravada Buddhism. "All that we are is the result of what we have thought."

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#61 jimmyjammer69
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I don't really feel like a 20 minute video on the nature of reality right now, but if someone's arguing nothing is real I hope they give an account of what it takes for something to be counted as real too, or else it's a pretty meaningless distinction.
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#62 Second_Rook
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Wow, another person had their first forray into metaphysics and is announcing that the world is an illusion!!!!!!!
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#63 Guybrush_3
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The idea is untestable and unobservable. Therefore the idea is not scientific. They are lying when they say it is scientific. There is not a legitimate scientist in any field in the entire world that will tell you otherwise.

One easy way to separate dreams from reality is that reality is consistent, dreams are not.

"the laws of physics chemistry and biology all lead us to the fact that matter is an illusion" This is a lie.

I cringed every time he said "these facts" based on something that is untestable and unobservable.

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#64 mayforcebeyou
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in the vidoes description it says that our minds exist so according to that theory everything we know is not fake
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#65 tofu-lion91
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Didn't watch after reading "keep up with the Matrix plot" - no chance over here! :P
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#66 Guybrush_3
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For people who are just casting this away, this video provides real scientific thinking and evidence that is widely accepted today. It's basically an indepth look at the senses and how they work to interpret our world. How sight is just something created in the brain by detecting EMR in the visible spectrum, sound just the change of pressure and vibrations in the air... etc. Basically the video is trying to enlighten you on how much extra detail your mind adds to the world. Things such as color and sound do not really exist, they are just manifestations of the brain to classify different inputs of the senses. It basically says matter and exitence in actuallity is much different then what you see, hear, or feel. That being said, our senses help as make sense of the world regardless, although fundamentally, things to do exist as we sense them.Marfoo

There is nothing scientific about saying that everything we perceive is fake.

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#67 kingkui
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The video is loading too slow and it keeps closing itself out, can i get a summary?

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#68 Theokhoth
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I've always though when people say "reality is not real" that means none of you are real right? If this is some giant computer sim then you guys are all apart of the sim *I* am experienicing. Sorta like that level in Fallout 3 with the dog and the kid right? lol. I dunno what are your thoughts?

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As long as there's an "I" to refer to when talking about my existence, I exist.

Oh, and everything you know is wrong.

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#69 XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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I didn't bother watching it after I scrolled down and saw other posters say it was 20 minutes.
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#70 Ontain
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doesn't really matter. our reality is our perception of it. what is really is, is irrelevant to living our lives.
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#71 jimmyjammer69
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doesn't really matter. our reality is our perception of it. what is really is, is irrelevant to living our lives.Ontain
That sounds a lot like the conclusion to Bouwsma's "Evil Genius" short story, which, at least on the surface, seems to be a strong rebuttal of the Brain-in-a-vat argument.

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#72 Reach01
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I didn't bother watching it after I scrolled down and saw other posters say it was 20 minutes.XDXDXDXDXDXDXD

There are two videos. 10 minutes each.

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#73 SegaGenesisfan
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The idea is untestable and unobservable. Therefore the idea is not scientific. They are lying when they say it is scientific. There is not a legitimate scientist in any field in the entire world that will tell you otherwise.

One easy way to separate dreams from reality is that reality is consistent, dreams are not.

"the laws of physics chemistry and biology all lead us to the fact that matter is an illusion" This is a lie.

I cringed every time he said "these facts" based on something that is untestable and unobservable.

Guybrush_3

Well this reveals that scientist can not be trusted always, so I hope that will make people question how legitimate evolutionist are. As we know from this video, man is naturally religious, almost like we want to create adifferent reality. I like how they say scientist say it so its a fact, look people, scientist are people, and they do lie. Remember that stupid food pyramid a few years ago? Well, it was totally off.

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#74 Reach01
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

The idea is untestable and unobservable. Therefore the idea is not scientific. They are lying when they say it is scientific. There is not a legitimate scientist in any field in the entire world that will tell you otherwise.

One easy way to separate dreams from reality is that reality is consistent, dreams are not.

"the laws of physics chemistry and biology all lead us to the fact that matter is an illusion" This is a lie.

I cringed every time he said "these facts" based on something that is untestable and unobservable.

SegaGenesisfan

Well this reveals that scientist can not be trusted always, so I hope that will make people question how legitimate evolutionist are. As we know from this video, man is naturally religious, almost like we want to create adifferent reality. I like how they say scientist say it so its a fact, look people, scientist are people, and they do lie. Remember that stupid food pyramid a few years ago? Well, it was totally off.

Scientist only help us point out the patterns in life. Religion is just what you said, CREATED by man.

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#75 Setsa
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I stopped watching at the disclaimer, sorry :(
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#76 awssk8er716
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It's weird. I've actually thought of all of that before... just not that in depth.

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#77 Reach01
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It's weird. I've actually thought of all of that before... just not that in depth.

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lol me too thats why i made this thread to find out who else has. Not to turn this into more science vs religion bs.
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#78 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="JunkyMcMuffin"]

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

Everything is made up of atoms....so yea nothing is real, just a reflection of light on atomic particles.

Since when do reflections of light take on physical properties? Anyway, I could care less if everything I know is "real". Hell, take me to the source!

but when you reach the source the path of the One ends