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#52 Eman5805
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The vid is okay, but I'll never understand why it's the top rated vid on youtube. or why Avril whatshername has the highest rated music video...

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#53 Total-KO
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[QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Jenovawitness"]

Question...

whys it called the THEORY of Evolution?

DeeJayInphinity

If you look up the world "theory," you will notice that it has this meaning under a scientific context:

5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena

Theories are not considered fact, you can't achieve "fact" in science, theories can be dethroned by new data or observations. The theory of evolution does not look like it will be proven wrong any time soon.

Umm there are facts which have been achieved. For instance, magnetism.

When it comes to theories, there is no fact.

Obviously, but there are facts in science.

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#54 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Jenovawitness"]

Question...

whys it called the THEORY of Evolution?

Total-KO

If you look up the world "theory," you will notice that it has this meaning under a scientific context:

5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena

Theories are not considered fact, you can't achieve "fact" in science, theories can be dethroned by new data or observations. The theory of evolution does not look like it will be proven wrong any time soon.

Umm there are facts which have been achieved. For instance, magnetism.

When it comes to theories, there is no fact.

Obviously, but there are facts in science.

You're thinking in terms of events, the explanations themselves (theories) can never be "fact."

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#55 Jenovawitness
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[QUOTE="Jenovawitness"]

Question...

whys it called the THEORY of Evolution?

DeeJayInphinity

If you look up the world "theory," you will notice that it has this meaning under a scientific context:

5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena

Theories are not considered fact, you can't achieve "fact" in science, theories can be dethroned by new data or observations. The theory of evolution does not look like it will be proven wrong any time soon.

Is it not fact that our hearts pump blood through our bodies? :P

Science according to webster:

the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding

It's not the state of guess something thats most likely 99.99% true.

: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : NATURAL SCIENCE
4: a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws

So I'm pretty sure you can get FACT from science :P

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#56 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Jenovawitness"]

Question...

whys it called the THEORY of Evolution?

Jenovawitness

If you look up the world "theory," you will notice that it has this meaning under a scientific context:

5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena

Theories are not considered fact, you can't achieve "fact" in science, theories can be dethroned by new data or observations. The theory of evolution does not look like it will be proven wrong any time soon.

Is it not fact that our hearts pump blood through our bodies? :P

Science according to webster:

the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding

It's not the state of guess something thats most likely 99.99% true.

: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : NATURAL SCIENCE
4: a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws

So I'm pretty sure you can get FACT from science :P

The explanations for a natural phenomena are not "fact." The phenomena itself can be fact; yes there probably is blood pumping through your body, that's the natural phenomena. The explanation is what cannot be considered a fact.

By that logic, that the Earth is flat would've been considered a fact, yet it's wrong. For generations, people believed that the Earth was flat, they believed that anybody who said otherwise was crazy. That's what that mindset tries to avoid or counter. Preventing loyalty to a belief makes it much easier to change minds and share ideas.

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#57 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="ab1205"]

Gamespot's most known Christian Silver_Dragon sure refutes evolution :) anyways let's keep this thread on topic with the video !

LJS9502_basic

If he's the most known Christian....you haven't spent much time in OT...he's a relative newcomer.

Indeed.
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#58 CptJSparrow
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Simply put, guys, you cannot have an explanation of natural phenomenon (a scientific theory) that is a fact unless you know the exact state of the universe. Obviously, we do not know that, so all theories are provisional.
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#59 tharg617
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You really can't say that animals have evolved even slightly because it's proven true. Isn't there a gene that makes animals evolve so they can adapt to diffrent enviroments to survive? If so, then if God created everything in existence then he created that gene in the animal to evolve over time.
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#60 aliend
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Evolution is a theory. A very likely theory, but still a theory by scientific terms.sonicare

Theories DO NOT become facts(you implied that it is "still a theory" like if it can go even further). There is a theory of magnetism. There is a gravitational theory. These theories explain facts. How do you prove an explanation? I don't think you can. People in the future will not call it "gravitational fact" for example. So even if it is 100% correct, it is still called a theory.

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#61 DrummerJon
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Evolution is a theory. It is a fact that humans evolved from less complex life.CptJSparrow
You are correct, and said almost exactly what I was going to say :(
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#62 matsterJ
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Lol
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#63 JJ4545
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I've never understood how people can just reject fact.
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#64 aliend
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You really can't say that animals have evolved even slightly because it's proven true.tharg617

IF it is proven that they have evolved, why can't you say animals have evolved?

Isn't there a gene that makes animals evolve so they can adapt to diffrent enviroments to survive?tharg617

No, there isn't.

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#65 longhorn7
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Wow, I do believe absolutely everyone here is collectively the dumbest person in the universe for arguing this. CLICK THE LINK IT'S A JOKE THREAD.
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#66 LJS9502_basic
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Wow, I do believe absolutely everyone here is collectively the dumbest person in the universe for arguing this. CLICK THE LINK IT'S A JOKE THREAD. longhorn7

WOW...no kidding.:roll:

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Wow, I do believe absolutely everyone here is collectively the dumbest person in the universe for arguing this. CLICK THE LINK IT'S A JOKE THREAD. longhorn7
:lol:
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#68 ab1205
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[QUOTE="ab1205"]

Gamespot's most known Christian Silver_Dragon sure refutes evolution :) anyways let's keep this thread on topic with the video !

LJS9502_basic

If he's the most known Christian....you haven't spent much time in OT...he's a relative newcomer.

Saw the vid before....it's okay.

Well I remember casey (Christian) taking over that old Evolution vs God thread which was created by mohan, and the longest religion thread ever on Gamespot! (and got locked sadly :( )

But Silver's been showing up in every single religion thread in the past month or months, defending Christianity.

The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

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#69 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ab1205"]

Gamespot's most known Christian Silver_Dragon sure refutes evolution :) anyways let's keep this thread on topic with the video !

ab1205

If he's the most known Christian....you haven't spent much time in OT...he's a relative newcomer.

Saw the vid before....it's okay.

Well I remember casey (Christian) taking over that old Evolution vs God thread which was created by mohan, and the longest religion thread ever on Gamespot! (and got locked sadly :( )

But Silver's been showing up in every single religion thread in the past month or months, defending Christianity.

As I stated above.....:|

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#70 mig_killer2
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I don't know why people think Evolution is made by the Devil or something, evolution is fact.

This should convince you:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg

ab1205

dude, we figured that out a long time ago.

EDIT: I thought you were linking to chadaggs video who says that evolution is a fact

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#71 willtsherman
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OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

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#72 uncledeath2005
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I came here hoping for debate...so what is the point of the thread?
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#73 LJS9502_basic
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The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

ab1205

:roll: Now I realize you don't care for Christians...but there were non Christians that responded as well without watching the link.

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#74 ab1205
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[QUOTE="ab1205"]

The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

LJS9502_basic

:roll: Now I realize you don't care for Christians...but there were non Christians that responded as well without watching the link.

I know. Well...maybe it's cause this particular Christian stood out the most:

[QUOTE="longhorn7"][QUOTE="xAngelxDustx"]I feel sad for those who don't believe in the existence of God...all I gotta say is, best of luck.xAngelxDustx
you didn't click the link did you?

I don't need to...my beliefs are solid

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#75 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ab1205"]

The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

ab1205

:roll: Now I realize you don't care for Christians...but there were non Christians that responded as well without watching the link.

I know. Well...maybe it's cause this particular Christian stood out the most:

No...you called out Christians for it....which wasn't fair now was it?

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#76 ab1205
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[QUOTE="ab1205"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ab1205"]

The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

LJS9502_basic

:roll: Now I realize you don't care for Christians...but there were non Christians that responded as well without watching the link.

I know. Well...maybe it's cause this particular Christian stood out the most:

No...you called out Christians for it....which wasn't fair now was it?

I didn't say all, I said "some". They have entirely different meanings.

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#77 LJS9502_basic
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I didn't say all, I said "some". They have entirely different meanings.

ab1205

That's not the issue I have with your post.....:|

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#78 The_Ish
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Good thing I read some of the responses before clicking the link. :D
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#79 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

I don't remember seeing anyone on here that disputes evolution, even the christians.

ab1205

Gamespot's most known Christian Silver_Dragon sure refutes evolution :) anyways let's keep this thread on topic with the video !

1) I'm not GS's most-known Christian. That would be LJS9502_basic. I'm GS's most argumentative Christian, but not the most known.

2) Still telling people what I believe? I haven't "refutted" evolution for quite some time now.

3) Dance did not evolve, it was created. FACT.

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OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

willtsherman

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

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#81 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

ninjacat11

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

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#82 EboyLOL
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Not fact... but as close to fact as possible.
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#83 fatzombiepigeon
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As a supporter of that theory, that is your belief. But on the overall scientific basis, it is still considered a theory. Although I do agree that there is no way the theory can not be at least partially correct.
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OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

willtsherman
I love you.
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#85 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

Silver_Dragon17

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Well, if you want to be little girls about politics, vote Democrat or Republican.

Want to be a man? Vote Regressive Party.

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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

fatzombiepigeon

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Well, if you want to be little girls about politics, vote Democrat or Republican.

Want to be a man? Vote Regressive Party.

Thanks, but I don't like the idea of having children up to age 80 being aborted, and the police arresting somebody for any and no reason, and no protests, and all that stuff.:|

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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

Silver_Dragon17

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Well, if you want to be little girls about politics, vote Democrat or Republican.

Want to be a man? Vote Regressive Party.

Thanks, but I don't like the idea of having children up to age 80 being aborted, and the police arresting somebody for any and no reason, and no protests, and all that stuff.:|

You forgot where we stand when it comes to those protests:

Regressive stance

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#88 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="ab1205"]

The irony of this thread is that some Christians responded without even looking at the video which was completely different than what they thought. These particular Christians are the reasons we generalize all of them.

LJS9502_basic

:roll: Now I realize you don't care for Christians...but there were non Christians that responded as well without watching the link.

Yeah, I usually ignore videos used as a thread starter. On a side note, MAILER_DAEMON is probably the most well-known Christian here.
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[QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

Silver_Dragon17

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Yeah, nobody cares about understanding virus prevention.
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

CptJSparrow

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Yeah, nobody cares about understanding virus prevention.

Hey, I'm just the translator.

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#91 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="ninjacat11"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

Silver_Dragon17

Umm.....that post made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate a little?

I speak Conservative.

Evolution is Liberal Scientology garbage. Even if evolution is true, who cares.

Vote republican. No Barack Hussein Obama (Bin-Laden) or Hilary Clinton.

Yeah, nobody cares about understanding virus prevention.

Hey, I'm just the translator.

Now you must translate back.
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#92 Silver_Dragon17
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Now you must translate back.CptJSparrow

Um. . . ."Viral infections bad, evil-ution stop dem."

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OMG evolution is just for a worthless libral scientologists even if there is (ya right) who cares.

vote republican no more Barak HUESSIEN Obama or hillary clinton. SHEESH

willtsherman
Word. 8)
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Is anyone else disappointed that sooner or later that the Avril Laviene music video ''Girlfriend'' will beat evolution ofdance in terms of views? or is it just me?
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#95 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Now you must translate back.Silver_Dragon17

Um. . . ."Viral infections bad, evil-ution stop dem."

Good man.
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#96 rockguy92
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Yeah right.
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#97 longhorn7
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Holy effin christ you people are still arguing?