Evolution- is it a sound scientific theory?

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#1 JYoungin20years
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Nope.
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#2 Just-Breathe
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Nope.JYoungin20years
Is this a sound argument? Nope
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#3 Chris_Williams
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I don't understand why you guys go and make alternate accounts, if your going to troll, grow some and post on your regular account.

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#4 tenaka2
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lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

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#5 JYoungin20years
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lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

tenaka2
Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.
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#6 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

JYoungin20years

Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.

Yes it has, evolution has been observed multiple times in both labs and in its natural environment.

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#7 theone86
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

JYoungin20years

Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.

Strike 2.

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#8 Necrifer
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Nah, I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

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#9 DroidPhysX
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Not sure if troll or troll
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#10 RandoIph
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This drivel doesn't even warrant a response. The fact that the OP felt the need to make an alt account to post it proves that even he knows what he is posting is stupid because he doesn't want it seen on his main account.
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#11 PcGamingRig
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I am pretty sure you evolved from an ape. :)

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#12 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

theone86

Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.

Strike 2.

Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?

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#13 Frame_Dragger
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This drivel doesn't even warrant a response. The fact that the OP felt the need to make an alt account to post it proves that even he knows what he is posting is stupid because he doesn't want it seen on his main account.RandoIph
This.
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#14 PcGamingRig
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"] Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.tenaka2

Strike 2.

Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?

:lol: my mum always uses that one.

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#15 RandoIph
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Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?tenaka2
How about the old "Evolution is JUST A THEORY" line? That's a golden oldie.
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#16 theone86
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Not sure if troll or trollDroidPhysX

This is actually a step up from most anti-evolution threads. He at least has the sense to ask if it's a sound theory, instead of of saying that it's JUST a theory.

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#17 coolbeans90
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I am pretty sure you evolved from an ape. :)

PcGamingRig

I don't thing he got that far. :(

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#18 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It's natural selection for god's sake. But it does seem amazing that complex organisms can develop from simple, single celled organisms. There has to be some genetic advantage to being more complex, but sometimes single celled organisms seem to be tougher. Take bacteria.

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#19 JYoungin20years
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[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol soon to be locked Id imagine.

However, Evolution is fact, it has been proven beyond any doubt, evolution has been observed occuring.

The 'Theory of Evolution' is the best explanation to explain 'Evolution'.

Or as some people call it Evilution.

tenaka2

Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.

Yes it has, evolution has been observed multiple times in both labs and in its natural environment.

LOL. Show me the papers proving this.
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"] Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.tenaka2

Strike 2.

Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?

Those are house odds, but I'm a gmabling man so I'm going to go with "why haven't we evolved bulletproof skin?"

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#21 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Strike 2.

Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?

Those are house odds, but I'm a gmabling man so I'm going to go with "why haven't we evolved bulletproof skin?"

Luke Cage has bulletproof skin.
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#22 The-Apostle
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.
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#23 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"] Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.JYoungin20years

Yes it has, evolution has been observed multiple times in both labs and in its natural environment.

LOL. Show me the papers proving this.

Do you REALLY think that you'd understand them, even if you read them? Just go with the troll thread, and let it go at that... the more you type, the more you come across as someone who moves their lips when they read posts here.

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#24 coolbeans90
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle

Only in your case.

You are an ape.

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#25 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"] Nothing in evolution has been observed as occurring on this earth or anywhere else.JYoungin20years

Yes it has, evolution has been observed multiple times in both labs and in its natural environment.

LOL. Show me the papers proving this.

Do you REALLY think that you'd understand them, even if you read them? Just go with the troll thread, and let it go at that... the more you type, the more you come across as someone who moves their lips when they read posts here.

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#26 paratheos
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Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.
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Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.paratheos
Evolution isn't occurring.
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#28 coolbeans90
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Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.paratheos

That is NOT what the definition of the term "evolution" being used by scientists. They are referring to this process, not your "intuitive" definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle
Uh yes we have. Ramapithecus -> Australopithecus Robustus -> Australopithecus Africanus -> American Liberals -> Homo Erectus -> Homo Sapiens
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#30 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Im going to guess his next post will be the classic 'If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes', whats your guess?

sonicare

Those are house odds, but I'm a gmabling man so I'm going to go with "why haven't we evolved bulletproof skin?"

Luke Cage has bulletproof skin.

Yeah, brought about by an experiment using cell regeneration, thereby proving natural selection.

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#32 paratheos
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[QUOTE="paratheos"]Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.JYoungin20years
Evolution isn't occurring.

Evolution is any gradual change over time. However, natural selection as described by Charles Darwin is not the key mechanism of evolution.
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#33 Frame_Dragger
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Oh look... two troll accounts (possibly the same user) having a conversation with itself. :lol:
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#34 RandoIph
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle
The missing link is a myth. It's not missing at all. Evolution is a fact and the theory of evolution is the best way we currently have to explain it. Lame talking points like the supposedly missing link are just plain stupid at this point.
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#35 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Oh look... two troll accounts (possibly the same user) having a conversation with itself. :lol:Frame_Dragger
Maybe he has multiple personality disorder?
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#36 theone86
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle

This is based on a fallacious assumption that there is one missing link. In reality, evolution is a process that spans millions of years and is in a constant process of change. It's not that apes are going along, minding their own business, and all of the sudden one day the "missing link" is born, it's that very small genetic mutations occur over a prolonged span of time, eventually leading to something that no longer resembles the ancestor, and we HAVE found many fossils that represent increment periods in the evolutionary process between apes and humans.

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#37 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.RandoIph
The missing link is a myth. It's not missing at all. Evolution is a fact and the theory of evolution is the best way we currently have to explain it. Lame talking points like the supposedly missing link are just plain stupid at this point.

Yeah, but it's right about Apostle's speed... and what else does he have with the new ToU anyway?
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#38 coolbeans90
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle

Your post in the autism thread seems silly.

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#39 JYoungin20years
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[QUOTE="JYoungin20years"][QUOTE="paratheos"]Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.paratheos
Evolution isn't occurring.

Evolution is any gradual change over time. However, natural selection as described by Charles Darwin is not the key mechanism of evolution.

You're right. There's countless mechanisms of evolution, each with their own problems.
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#40 alexside1
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Oh look a troll. I swear this new tou just create more trouble than it ask.
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#41 theone86
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Oh look a troll. I swear this new tou just create more trouble than it ask.alexside1

Yeah, because we never got threads like this before the ToU change.

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[QUOTE="paratheos"]Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.coolbeans90
That is NOT what the definition of the term "evolution" being used by scientists. They are referring to this process, not your "intuitive" definition:

This definition has been intentionally restricted in order to limit its scope to natural selection. The exchange goes as follows: "Is natural selection the only mechanism of evolution?" "No" "How can you be sure?" "Because the scientific definition of evolution indicates that natural selection is the key mechanism." This reasoning is clearly fallacious.
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#43 Blue-Sky
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Actually, we've never found a true missing link that shows humans evolved from apes. Whenever we find one it always gets proven wrong.The-Apostle

Humans didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor.

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#44 coolbeans90
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This definition has been intentionally restricted in order to limit its scope to natural selection. The exchange goes as follows: "Is natural selection the only mechanism of evolution?" "No" "How can you be sure?" "Because the scientific definition of evolution indicates that natural selection is the key mechanism." This reasoning is clearly fallacious.paratheos

No, the definition has not been restricted for any purpose other than to specifically define the parameters of "evolution" as it pertains to the process of genetic changes. YOU ARE USING A DIFFERENT WORD THAN IS BEING USED BY SCIENTISTS.

The reasoning is more along the lines of "genetic traits which inhibit survival until reproduction within any given environment have a tendency to fail to reproduce and consequently natural selection is the key mechanism in determining which sets of genetic traits survive."

Evolution does NOT address non-biological phenomena. (except in a roundabout way one could argue that intelligence, which causes a species to more capably adapts to their environment and suit their environment to their survival, is an evolutionarily beneficial trait.

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Oh look... two troll accounts (possibly the same user) having a conversation with itself. :lol:Frame_Dragger
evolution is a theory or process not a noise, it cant have sound!

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#46 Frame_Dragger
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Paratheos, and JYoungin20years: one troll, two accounts. :roll:
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#47 theone86
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Paratheos, and JYoungin20years: one troll, two accounts. :roll:Frame_Dragger

He's evolving.

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Paratheos, and JYoungin20years: one troll, two accounts. :roll:Frame_Dragger
Sorry, this is my only account.
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#49 The-Apostle
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Paratheos, and JYoungin20years: one troll, two accounts. :roll:Frame_Dragger
Yeah, it's rare when I see a troll argue with him/herself but then again I don't normally wander into debate topics. Does this happen often?
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#50 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]Oh look a troll. I swear this new tou just create more trouble than it ask.theone86

Yeah, because we never got threads like this before the ToU change.

But those threads have subsistence at least...They try to attempt rather than just saying "nope".