Evolution- is it a sound scientific theory?

Should I trust the opinion of a level 2, probably alt account, probably troll?

Nope.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]Oh look a troll. I swear this new tou just create more trouble than it ask.alexside1

Yeah, because we never got threads like this before the ToU change.

Yeah, but now we can call the trolls trolls and not get moderated for trolling.

No, the definition has not been restricted for any purpose other than to specifically define the parameters of "evolution" as it pertains to the process of genetic changes. Evolution does NOT address non-biological phenomena. coolbeans90

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Yeah, because we never got threads like this before the ToU change.

theone86

Yeah, but now we can call the trolls trolls and not get moderated for trolling.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Paratheos, and JYoungin20years: one troll, two accounts. :roll:The-Apostle

If it wasn't a sound scientific theory then it wouldn't be so widely accepted in the scientific community. What a ridiculous question.JustBeYourself

[QUOTE="JustBeYourself"]If it wasn't a sound scientific theory then it wouldn't be so widely accepted in the scientific community. What a ridiculous question.paratheos

Should I trust the opinion of a level 2, probably alt account, probably troll?

Nope.

tjricardo089

An argument that restricts itself to existing definitions is probably not going to be very insightful. People did not discover that the Earth is a sphere by reflecting on the definition of Earth. It is a fact that the scientific definition of evolution has been manipulated in order to suit the current understanding that natural selection as the key mechanism of evolution. For this reason, I am using the word "evolution" in the most intuitive sense.paratheos

It was pretty insightful with respect to describing a particular biological phenomena, WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE BLOODY PURPOSE. The definition was not restricted - just a particular aspect addressed. This is not manipulation - it is specification. It serves to further accuracy of what the hell people are talking about. Clearly defined terms matter. Your definition is counterintuitive when referring to natural selection as you are using a different word altogether.

Evolution is occurring, but not necessarily according to natural selection. Resistance to external threats can be transmitted by non genetic means. Single nucleotide mutations are not the key mechanism of evolution as is currently believed.paratheos

[QUOTE="JustBeYourself"]If it wasn't a sound scientific theory then it wouldn't be so widely accepted in the scientific community. What a ridiculous question.paratheos

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Should I trust the opinion of a level 2, probably alt account, probably troll?

Nope.

paratheos

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Should I trust the opinion of a level 2, probably alt account, probably troll?

Nope.

Frame_Dragger

[QUOTE="paratheos"][QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

Should I trust the opinion of a level 2, probably alt account, probably troll?

Nope.

Frame_Dragger

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[QUOTE="paratheos"] Appeal to authority fallacy. GS disappoints once again.paratheos

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="paratheos"] Appeal to authority fallacy. GS disappoints once again.paratheos

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="paratheos"] Appeal to authority fallacy. GS disappoints once again.paratheos

Like I said, this forum is lacking in critical thinking skills.paratheos

Tell me about it.

[QUOTE="paratheos"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] You responded with the wrong account... :lol:

Charazani

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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="paratheos"] Appeal to authority fallacy. GS disappoints once again.paratheos

[QUOTE="paratheos"]Like I said, this forum is lacking in critical thinking skills.coolbeans90

Tell me about it.

[QUOTE="paratheos"]Like I said, this forum is lacking in critical thinking skills.coolbeans90

Tell me about it.

[QUOTE="Charazani"][QUOTE="paratheos"] I'm calling out any logical fallacies as I see them. Like I said, this forum is lacking in critical thinking skills.Frame_Dragger

Where did TC go?

Before the new ToU, people actually had to come up with asinine sh*t in order to make a thread that didn't get locked. I miss the old ToU now.foxhound_fox

I think this site's definately been for the worse since the new ToU were implemented. Although I do enjoy the freedom to call a spade a spade now.

Where did TC go?

Necrifer

Where did TC go?

Necrifer

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="paratheos"]Like I said, this forum is lacking in critical thinking skills.paratheos

Tell me about it.

[QUOTE="paratheos"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Tell me about it.

surrealnumber5

No the whole purpose of my argument is to go AGAINST the current notion of natural selection as the key mechanism of evolution. Just like Aristotle who argued against the definition of Earth as being flat. I can see how it must have been frustrating for him.paratheos

However, you are not arguing against the scientific theory natural selection is the key mechanism of evolution because you are not using words with the same meaning. You are not debating the substance, the essence of the theory. You are playing a cute little word game.

[QUOTE="paratheos"]No the whole purpose of my argument is to go AGAINST the current notion of natural selection as the key mechanism of evolution. Just like Aristotle who argued against the definition of Earth as being flat. I can see how it must have been frustrating for him.coolbeans90

However, you are not arguing against that natural selection is the key mechanism of evolution because you are not using words with the same meaning.

I think you're being obtuse once again :Pparatheos

Riveting tale, chap!

Why do I even bother with OT?

Why do I even bother with OT?

Xeogua

I'll do it for him. EVILUTION is just a theory! If we came from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys? Did a monkey just poop out a human one day? Why does EVILUTION say everything comes from nothing? ADOLF HITLER believed in evolution, do you wanna be like him? Checkmate!RandoIph

[QUOTE="paratheos"]I think you're being obtuse once again :Pcoolbeans90

Riveting tale, chap!

[QUOTE="Xeogua"]

Why do I even bother with OT?

RandoIph

But SW has much more entertaining trolls, I'm sure you've read some of Shadowmoses posts, comedic gold right there.

[QUOTE="RandoIph"][QUOTE="Xeogua"]

Why do I even bother with OT?

Xeogua

But SW has much more entertaining trolls, I'm sure you've read some of Shadowmoses posts, comedic gold right there.

Your whole argument about definitions, so you're being obtuse. At least try to understand what I'm trying to say. Evolution is easy to understand as long as you understand it intuitively rather than dogmatically.paratheos

The thing is, scientists do not use the "intuitive" (you are using the term counterintuitively) definition nor even address it within the confines of this theory in particular. Likewise, you are NOT addressing the same thing.

Scientists state that natural selection is the key mechanism in the biological process commonly referred to as evolution. You say that the changes in humanity's capacity to cope - including non-biological factors - with environmental threats is not due to natural selection. These concepts of "evolution" differ vastly and unless you directly address the theory within its parameters, you are not actually addressing the theories. You, sir, have committed the worst abuse of a pun that I have ever encountered. I applaud you for dragging me this far into this discussion and resent you for trolling the sh!t out of innocent folk.

[QUOTE="Xeogua"]

[QUOTE="RandoIph"] It's entertaining.paratheos

But SW has much more entertaining trolls, I'm sure you've read some of Shadowmoses posts, comedic gold right there.

So who's alt are you?

I don't understand why you guys go and make alternate accounts, if your going to troll, grow some and post on your regular account.

Chris_Williams

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[QUOTE="paratheos"]I think you're being obtuse once again :Pparatheos

Riveting tale, chap!

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

I don't understand why you guys go and make alternate accounts, if your going to troll, grow some and post on your regular account.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

I don't understand why you guys go and make alternate accounts, if your going to troll, grow some and post on your regular account.

Rockman999