Evolution or Creationism? What you believe?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Bianca, have I ever talked to your other GS incarnations? :oBiancaDK

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Bianca, have I ever talked to your other GS incarnations? :oTeenaged

I don't believe in either one.. I accept Evolution as FACT.. sSubZerOo

Evolution ftw.!!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Isn't Creationism an actual specific religious belief of the actuality of god creating everything of no evolution what so ever etc etc.. SaintLeonidas

Creationism came around the 60 or 70s I believe. Our congress passed a law against teaching creationism in school so to get around it, anti-evolutionists came up with the theory intelligent design. Creationism and ID are different but very similar. Here's a quote from a case study I researched about ID, "The theory posited that certain features of life on earth-such as the eye and immune system-were so complex that they could not have emerged through a series of successive mutations alone. Such complexity indicated the guiding hand of a designer or intelligent supernatural force.

Basically ID came about from creationism so peeps against evolution would have something to stand behind since creationism had been thrown out the window.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]Criterion for Creationism: 1) The world is 6,000 years old 2) God created all creatures as they are today (Evolution is a lie) 3) God created all the world in 7 daysLJS9502_basic

According to the dictionary you are wrong.. Creationism:

1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed. 2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, esp. in the first chapter of Genesis. 3. the doctrine that God immediately creates out of nothing a new human soul for each individual born

According to the dictionary you are wrong.. Creationism:

1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.sSubZerOo

I think that this definition is more accurate.

Creationism came around the 60 or 70s I believe. Our congress passed a law against teaching creationism in school so to get around it, anti-evolutionists came up with the theory intelligent design. Creationism and ID are different but very similar. Here's a quote from a case study I researched about ID, "The theory posited that certain features of life on earth-such as the eye and immune system-were so complex that they could not have emerged through a series of successive mutations alone. Such complexity indicated the guiding hand of a designer or intelligent supernatural force.

Basically ID came about from creationism so peeps against evolution would have something to stand behind since creationism had been thrown out the window.

They are not mutually exclusive....LJS9502_basic

Theory of evolution doesn't contradict the existence of God, or gods. It just means the stuff they wrote down in the bible is wrong. I think the reason why some people find it hard to accept evolution is because they want to believe that humans were made specially apart from all other life forms on Earth. While we are a very unique species, in the grand scheme of the universe we don't amount to very much.

This thread reminds me of people who say human impact on climate change is something you can "believe" in or "disbelieve", like some sort of religious sect. Evolution, like human impacts on climate change, has been incredibly well documented and is the working theory for the scientific community. It's not something you replace with a god theory.

This thread reminds me of people who say human impact on climate change is something you can "believe" in or "disbelieve", like some sort of religious sect. Evolution, like human impacts on climate change, has been incredibly well documented and is the working theory for the scientific community. It's not something you replace with a god theory.

Brendissimo35

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

According to the dictionary you are wrong.. Creationism:

1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.LikeHaterade

I think that this definition is more accurate.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Creationism:

A system or theory of creation: spec.a. The theory that God immediately creates a soul for every human being born (opposed to traducianism);b. The theory which attributes the origin of matter, the different species of animals and plants, etc., to 'special creation' (opposed to evolutionism).

Definition a) is clearly not what is meant in this case, so definition b) is the appropriate one. OED wins. >_>

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Creationism:

A system or theory of creation: spec.a. The theory that God immediately creates a soul for every human being born (opposed to traducianism);b. The theory which attributes the origin of matter, the different species of animals and plants, etc., to 'special creation' (opposed to evolutionism).

Definition a) is clearly not what is meant in this case, so definition b) is the appropriate one. OED wins. >_>

chessmaster1989

No. National Center for Science Education wins. :x

Well you made some great points which are all true to evolution.

And about the teeth, they are slowly disappearing. Much of the new generation of children are starting to not grow them anymore and the DNA being tested is showing that they are disappearing from that since we do not need them anymore. Much of the parts of our bodies are changing if you look closely. You can tell where evolution is taking place. It takes quite a bit of time to change even a little though so that is where the classes in college come in.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Creationism:

A system or theory of creation: spec.a. The theory that God immediately creates a soul for every human being born (opposed to traducianism);b. The theory which attributes the origin of matter, the different species of animals and plants, etc., to 'special creation' (opposed to evolutionism).

Definition a) is clearly not what is meant in this case, so definition b) is the appropriate one. OED wins. >_>

LikeHaterade

No. National Center for Science Education wins. :x

OED could kick NCSE's ass any day. :P

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]creationism for me.Free_Marxet

No reason to patronize/talk down to someone...thread is about what YOU believe...nothing more...lets have a civilconversation for once

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]creationism for me.rawsavon

No reason to patronize/talk down to someone...thread is about what YOU believe...nothing more...lets have a civilconversation for once

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] I feel so bad for you.Free_Marxet

No reason to patronize/talk down to someone...thread is about what YOU believe...nothing more...lets have a civilconversation for once

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]

No reason to patronize/talk down to someone...thread is about what YOU believe...nothing more...lets have a civilconversation for once

rawsavon

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] I cant help it that she needs to read more science. Im also not insulting her.Free_Marxet

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

Everything is founded on beliefs why do they not deserve protection?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] I cant help it that she needs to read more science. Im also not insulting her.Free_Marxet

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

Everyone has the right to believe as they choose...so long as those beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others...to forsake that is to give up on the best parts of humanity

Belittling and rebuking others' beliefs is the last resort of the ignorant and stupid…they have no good way to persuade and talk with someone in a reasonable manner, so they resort to attacks to persuade…sad and pathetic

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

Espada12

Everything is founded on beliefs why do they not deserve protection?

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]

You are belittling someone's beliefs...it is not polite and not what this thread is about...start a new thread if you want to act that way

rawsavon

Everyone has the right to believe as they choose...so long as those beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others...to forsake that is to give up on the best parts of humanity

Belittling and rebuking others' beliefs is the last resort of the ignorant and stupid…they have no good way to persuade and talk with someone in a reasonable manner, so they resort to attacks to persuade…sad and pathetic

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] beliefs do not deserve protection at all, in any way. to think otherwise is absolutely insane and counter productive to the entirety of the human raceFree_Marxet

Everything is founded on beliefs why do they not deserve protection?

Belittling is not challenging.. what christopher columbus did was challenge. Lets put you as the nobility at the time belittling Christopher Columbus beliefs that the world was round.. because that's what you are doing in this thread.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] beliefs do not deserve protection at all, in any way. to think otherwise is absolutely insane and counter productive to the entirety of the human raceFree_Marxet

Everyone has the right to believe as they choose...so long as those beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others...to forsake that is to give up on the best parts of humanity

Belittling and rebuking others' beliefs is the last resort of the ignorant and stupid…they have no good way to persuade and talk with someone in a reasonable manner, so they resort to attacks to persuade…sad and pathetic

Why must you make your stance on their beliefs heard by them?

>_> Really?

MasterBolt360

lol i luv this pic

beliefs do not deserve protection at all, in any way. to think otherwise is absolutely insane and counter productive to the entirety of the human raceFree_Marxet

Everyone has the right to believe as they choose...so long as those beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others...to forsake that is to give up on the best parts of humanity

Belittling and rebuking others' beliefs is the last resort of the ignorant and stupid…they have no good way to persuade and talk with someone in a reasonable manner, so they resort to attacks to persuade…sad and pathetic

Are you even sure what were talking about? He said I cant belittle a belief. In other words, beliefs cant be challanged. I guess the earth is flat then. Good job, mr. politically correct.Free_Marxet

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"]Are you even sure what were talking about? He said I cant belittle a belief. In other words, beliefs cant be challanged. I guess the earth is flat then. Good job, mr. politically correct.dave123321

I believe that God created the earth and made evolution happen. Why cant the two be together?

I believe that God created the earth and made evolution happen. Why cant the two be together?

iginlawasup

[QUOTE="alphamale1989"][QUOTE="Dank_Dangler"]

Once again, no offence. It seems to me you are accepting the fact that "ignorance is bliss". As in "if it works for me, it works". How can I argue with a person in your position? Or maybe it's just that I don't have the heart to disrupt your serenity, no matter how bogus it may seem to me.

If you must.

Faith is not complex. "Faith" in itself is irrational. "Faith" implies blind belief. I work in the realm of conceivable reality. If we all did, the world would be a much better place. Faith is not complex, it is crap. I'm sorry. The real world is very complex indeed, perhaps far more complex than you would like to acknowledge, but it does not involve faith, it involves physics and chemistry and biology. The biology of our species can explain much of the nature of yourself and your hellbent willingness to believe in a "higher power". Biology and psychology.

I laughed when I saw the results. I didn't think creationism was that unpopular here.ZookGuy

A lot of the users are gone now. Crushmaster, MysteryLobster, Mindstorm.

[QUOTE="ZookGuy"]I laughed when I saw the results. I didn't think creationism was that unpopular here.LikeHaterade

A lot of the users are gone now. Crushmaster, MysteryLobster, Mindstorm.

What mindstorm is gone?rawsavon

Sadly yes. He has left us.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]What mindstorm is gone?LikeHaterade

Sadly yes. He has left us.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]What mindstorm is gone?rawsavon

Sadly yes. He has left us.

It was by choice.

[QUOTE="ZookGuy"]I laughed when I saw the results. I didn't think creationism was that unpopular here.LikeHaterade

A lot of the users are gone now. Crushmaster, MysteryLobster, Mindstorm.

Meh, there will be a new wave of evangelicals who actually think that people will convert on an online forum.

EDIT: I didn't know who Mindstorm was until I clicked on the link and recognized the user the profile pic, he was a good user :(.

And this is Off-Topic but, where is the Haterade sig!?! :x

They are not mutually exclusive....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Sadly yes. He has left us.

It was by choice.