Favorite Military Branch

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? RiSkyBiZ-13

So you claim that military members are murderers. I'm assuming you're American. Where would you be without the US Military? Let's ignore WW2, the Revolutionary War, let's be trendy and call soldiers murderers. Some of my best friends are in Iraq right now, getting shot at and dodging IED's. Where are you? Comfortable in your own American home, free to speak such nonsense because of our brave men and women. People like you make me sick, and I'm ashamed to have you in the same country.

Epic Pwnage right thar, good job man. I like the Navy cause they got Spec Ops

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Oh, and Marines.

I want to join, but I am still on the fence.

I know next to nothing about their requirements.

RiSkyBiZ-13

As for now, their requirements are slim. They need people, badly. I wouldn't reccomend it, however, unless 14 month deployments to Iraq sounds appealing to you. The Air Force does 6-8 month deployments, and we're treated a LOT better. Your call, though.

Why such a difference?

Theyre all murderers. rzepak

warring and fighting are human nature, always has been. Just look at history, its peppered with fights and wars. Humans whatever they say must like some war as we seem to be at most of the time. As for which branch is the best, i say the SAS. The best secret service division ever. SEALS, The KGB, the SAS can wipe the floor with them.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Oh, and Marines.

I want to join, but I am still on the fence.

I know next to nothing about their requirements.

The_Ish

As for now, their requirements are slim. They need people, badly. I wouldn't reccomend it, however, unless 14 month deployments to Iraq sounds appealing to you. The Air Force does 6-8 month deployments, and we're treated a LOT better. Your call, though.

Why such a difference?

They don't have enough people enlisted to cycle them any faster, unfortunately. The Army does the same thing, 12-14 month deployments, a 4-6 month cooldown, and another 12-14 month deployment (unless you're wicked smart and lucky, and get a good desk job). If you ever have any questions before you join and don't want a lying recruiter to deal with, PM me.

They don't have enough people enlisted to cycle them any faster, unfortunately. The Army does the same thing, 12-14 month deployments, a 4-6 month cooldown, and another 12-14 month deployment (unless you're wicked smart and lucky, and get a good desk job). If you ever have any questions before you join and don't want a lying recruiter to deal with, PM me.

RiSkyBiZ-13

That's what I am most on the fence about.

I don't want to be cycled in and out all the time. After about 2 or 3 years, I want to start working civilian jobs again. But I feel like I am wussing out if don't join because of that.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

They don't have enough people enlisted to cycle them any faster, unfortunately. The Army does the same thing, 12-14 month deployments, a 4-6 month cooldown, and another 12-14 month deployment (unless you're wicked smart and lucky, and get a good desk job). If you ever have any questions before you join and don't want a lying recruiter to deal with, PM me.

The_Ish

That's what I am most on the fence about.

I don't want to be cycled in and out all the time. After about 2 or 3 years, I want to start working civilian jobs again. But I feel like I am wussing out if don't join because of that.

Well, if you want to do only 2-3 years there is a significant downside. If you select under a 4 year enlistment for the Army or the Marines (i.e. 2-3 years), you won't get to pick your job, so they'll throw you into infantry if they want to (despite what the recruiter will tell you). Even at 4, it's sketchy. The Air Force supposedly has a 2 year enlistment, but it's a VERY well kept secret if it does indeed exist, but you'll have to look into that.

Well, if you want to do only 2-3 years there is a significant downside. If you select under a 4 year enlistment for the Army or the Marines (i.e. 2-3 years), you won't get to pick your job, so they'll throw you into infantry if they want to (despite what the recruiter will tell you). Even at 4, it's sketchy. The Air Force supposedly has a 2 year enlistment, but it's a VERY well kept secret if it does indeed exist, but you'll have to look into that.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Well, I;m not keen on just doing a desk job, but I'm also not keen on patrolling the entire time. Any advice?

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? Juggernaut140

So you claim that military members are murderers. I'm assuming you're American. Where would you be without the US Military? Let's ignore WW2, the Revolutionary War, let's be trendy and call soldiers murderers. Some of my best friends are in Iraq right now, getting shot at and dodging IED's. Where are you? Comfortable in your own American home, free to speak such nonsense because of our brave men and women. People like you make me sick, and I'm ashamed to have you in the same country.

Epic Pwnage right thar, good job man. I like the Navy cause they got Spec Ops

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

dylan9999

SAS is British, I was just talking about American military. Btw, Delta Force > SAS. Oh, and Israeli Spec Ops > Delta Force

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Well, if you want to do only 2-3 years there is a significant downside. If you select under a 4 year enlistment for the Army or the Marines (i.e. 2-3 years), you won't get to pick your job, so they'll throw you into infantry if they want to (despite what the recruiter will tell you). Even at 4, it's sketchy. The Air Force supposedly has a 2 year enlistment, but it's a VERY well kept secret if it does indeed exist, but you'll have to look into that.

The_Ish

Well, I;m not keen on just doing a desk job, but I'm also not keen on patrolling the entire time. Any advice?

Well, you'd have to tell me what you're interested in doing. There's virtually hundreds of jobs. Anything to a tech guy, air traffic controller, special ops, police (me!), firefighters, bomb squad, desk jockies, you name it.

[QUOTE="dylan9999"]

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

RiSkyBiZ-13

SAS is British, I was just talking about American military. Btw, Delta Force > SAS. Oh, and Israeli Spec Ops > Delta Force

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Well, if you want to do only 2-3 years there is a significant downside. If you select under a 4 year enlistment for the Army or the Marines (i.e. 2-3 years), you won't get to pick your job, so they'll throw you into infantry if they want to (despite what the recruiter will tell you). Even at 4, it's sketchy. The Air Force supposedly has a 2 year enlistment, but it's a VERY well kept secret if it does indeed exist, but you'll have to look into that.

The_Ish

Well, I;m not keen on just doing a desk job, but I'm also not keen on patrolling the entire time. Any advice?

Well, you'd have to tell me what you're interested in doing. There's virtually hundreds of jobs. Anything to a tech guy, air traffic controller, special ops, police (me!), firefighters, bomb squad, desk jockies, you name it.

Spec Ops, but technically I want anything where I won't be doing something behind the lines or repetitive.

Also, I found out I might not be fit for Spec Ops because I wear glasses. ****
The_Ish

Hey ISH,

The US Army Rangers are a Spec Ops group that do shortened deployments and fight on the front lines. PM me for more info.

-DLP

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? DivergeUnify

So you claim that military members are murderers. I'm assuming you're American. Where would you be without the US Military? Let's ignore WW2, the Revolutionary War, let's be trendy and call soldiers murderers. Some of my best friends are in Iraq right now, getting shot at and dodging IED's. Where are you? Comfortable in your own American home, free to speak such nonsense because of our brave men and women. People like you make me sick, and I'm ashamed to have you in the same country.

Epic Pwnage right thar, good job man. I like the Navy cause they got Spec Ops

oh, well I meant the Navy SEALS but what are the other branches spec ops?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? Juggernaut140

So you claim that military members are murderers. I'm assuming you're American. Where would you be without the US Military? Let's ignore WW2, the Revolutionary War, let's be trendy and call soldiers murderers. Some of my best friends are in Iraq right now, getting shot at and dodging IED's. Where are you? Comfortable in your own American home, free to speak such nonsense because of our brave men and women. People like you make me sick, and I'm ashamed to have you in the same country.

Epic Pwnage right thar, good job man. I like the Navy cause they got Spec Ops

oh, well I meant the Navy SEALS but what are the other branches spec ops?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Special_Operations_Forces

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? ElArab

Here's an even better question, which military branched ended the WW2 in germany quicker, easier, and safer, was it the U.S. Airborne, the marines, or the Navy? (which I believe the Navy and Marines are part of the same branch, and I don't see why Marines, which is just like the rangers and stuff, it's just a division, get's their own voting slot, but it's too late now.)

And don't pull Hiroshima and Nagasaki on me, that was Truman's fault, Politicians and Dictators are the murderers, the soldiers just have to go fight and die! So respecting them is the least you could do!

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Explain. Well lets analyze my extreme statement. From it I believe it would be safe to assume that my views on the world and conflict resolution are that of a pacifist yes? So maybe I find it ridiculous, just like you find my statment, that you talk of your favorite branch of the military. You see nothing wrong with this? How about a topic Your favorite war? ItalStallion777

So you claim that military members are murderers. I'm assuming you're American. Where would you be without the US Military? Let's ignore WW2, the Revolutionary War, let's be trendy and call soldiers murderers. Some of my best friends are in Iraq right now, getting shot at and dodging IED's. Where are you? Comfortable in your own American home, free to speak such nonsense because of our brave men and women. People like you make me sick, and I'm ashamed to have you in the same country.

Epic Pwnage right thar, good job man. I like the Navy cause they got Spec Ops

oh, well I meant the Navy SEALS but what are the other branches spec ops?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Special_Operations_Forces

Thanks :D

Spec Ops, but technically I want anything where I won't be doing something behind the lines or repetitive.

The_Ish

Not to insult you, but are you serious? You want to do Special Operations, but want to stay away from the enemy lines... that's not going to happen. They don't have a Special Ops that only operate in peacetime and don't go near the action. If you're hesitant about seeing combat, DEFINATELY stay away from the Marines and the Army, and there are only a very select few jobs in the Navy and Air Force that you won't see combat. In other words, join the Coast Guard :)

You could also look into Security Forces in the Air Force, we're cops. Being a cop and doing law enforcement, it won't be repetative (but you'll still have a good chance of a little action in the desert)

[QUOTE="dylan9999"]

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

RiSkyBiZ-13

SAS is British, I was just talking about American military. Btw, Delta Force > SAS. Oh, and Israeli Spec Ops > Delta Force

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Well, if you want to do only 2-3 years there is a significant downside. If you select under a 4 year enlistment for the Army or the Marines (i.e. 2-3 years), you won't get to pick your job, so they'll throw you into infantry if they want to (despite what the recruiter will tell you). Even at 4, it's sketchy. The Air Force supposedly has a 2 year enlistment, but it's a VERY well kept secret if it does indeed exist, but you'll have to look into that.

The_Ish

Well, I;m not keen on just doing a desk job, but I'm also not keen on patrolling the entire time. Any advice?

Well, you'd have to tell me what you're interested in doing. There's virtually hundreds of jobs. Anything to a tech guy, air traffic controller, special ops, police (me!), firefighters, bomb squad, desk jockies, you name it.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Spec Ops, but technically I want anything where I won't be doing something behind the lines or repetitive.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Not to insult you, but are you serious? You want to do Special Operations, but want to stay away from the enemy lines... that's not going to happen. They don't have a Special Ops that only operate in peacetime and don't go near the action. If you're hesitant about seeing combat, DEFINATELY stay away from the Marines and the Army, and there are only a very select few jobs in the Navy and Air Force that you won't see combat. In other words, join the Coast Guard :)

You could also look into Security Forces in the Air Force, we're cops. Being a cop and doing law enforcement, it won't be repetative (but you'll still have a good chance of a little action in the desert)

You misunderstood me. I meant I don't want anything that has me behind the lines on our side. In other words, the complete opposite. I want to be in the action. Sorry if my post was weird.

Navy SEALs are the most badass and then Army Delta force.....H3llstrike

You misunderstood me. I meant I don't want anything that has me behind the lines on our side. In other words, the complete opposite. I want to be in the action. Sorry if my post was weird.

The_Ish

Oooh, you should look into these USAF Special Ops, you'll get a NICE sign on bonus if you make it through the training (The AF's hurting for Spec Ops at the moment) and you'll get a sweet beret:

S.E.R.E: Stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape. You train officers and piolets how to survive behind enemy lines, living off the land, surviving POW camps mentally and physically, and staying hidden. Pretty much the ninjas of the military.

Pararescue: Pretty self explanitory. They were deeply involved in Black Hawk Down, despite Delta Force getting all the credit. These guys parachute WAY behind enemy lines in a small squad, used to being heavily outnumbered to rescue downed piolets or POW's. Their motto is "So that others may live." Not exactly my bag, but whatever. (I've been in for 2.5 years and I've only ever seen ONE of these guys) They do the EXACT same training as the SEALS, and then some.

Combat Controller: These guys are the SEALS of the sky. They HALO jump behind enemy lines as a small squad, and pretty much wipe out villages. That's basically it. Their training is the same as the Rangers, from what I'm told.

[QUOTE="H3llstrike"]Navy SEALs are the most badass and then Army Delta force.....UrbanSpartan125

Army Delta Force? Delta Force isn't part of the Army, or any other branch for that matter. Their acceptance rate is MUCH lower than any other Special Operations, and their training is much tougher physically and mentally (which explains the lower acceptance rate). The gov't still won't officially acknowledge their existance. In other words, they own the SEALS. That's why I didn't even bother adding them to this poll.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

You misunderstood me. I meant I don't want anything that has me behind the lines on our side. In other words, the complete opposite. I want to be in the action. Sorry if my post was weird.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Oooh, you should look into these USAF Special Ops, you'll get a NICE sign on bonus if you make it through the training (The AF's hurting for Spec Ops at the moment) and you'll get a sweet beret:

S.E.R.E: Stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape. You train officers and piolets how to survive behind enemy lines, living off the land, surviving POW camps mentally and physically, and staying hidden. Pretty much the ninjas of the military.

Pararescue: Pretty self explanitory. They were deeply involved in Black Hawk Down, despite Delta Force getting all the credit. These guys parachute WAY behind enemy lines in a small squad, used to being heavily outnumbered to rescue downed piolets or POW's. Their motto is "So that others may live." Not exactly my bag, but whatever. (I've been in for 2.5 years and I've only ever seen ONE of these guys) They do the EXACT same training as the SEALS, and then some.

Combat Controller: These guys are the SEALS of the sky. They HALO jump behind enemy lines as a small squad, and pretty much wipe out villages. That's basically it. Their training is the same as the Rangers, from what I'm told.

D:

But seriously, is that all the Spec Ops of the Air Force? Pararescue and Combat Controller sound like something I would like.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

You misunderstood me. I meant I don't want anything that has me behind the lines on our side. In other words, the complete opposite. I want to be in the action. Sorry if my post was weird.

The_Ish

Oooh, you should look into these USAF Special Ops, you'll get a NICE sign on bonus if you make it through the training (The AF's hurting for Spec Ops at the moment) and you'll get a sweet beret:

S.E.R.E: Stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape. You train officers and piolets how to survive behind enemy lines, living off the land, surviving POW camps mentally and physically, and staying hidden. Pretty much the ninjas of the military.

Pararescue: Pretty self explanitory. They were deeply involved in Black Hawk Down, despite Delta Force getting all the credit. These guys parachute WAY behind enemy lines in a small squad, used to being heavily outnumbered to rescue downed piolets or POW's. Their motto is "So that others may live." Not exactly my bag, but whatever. (I've been in for 2.5 years and I've only ever seen ONE of these guys) They do the EXACT same training as the SEALS, and then some.

Combat Controller: These guys are the SEALS of the sky. They HALO jump behind enemy lines as a small squad, and pretty much wipe out villages. That's basically it. Their training is the same as the Rangers, from what I'm told.

D:

But seriously, is that all the Spec Ops of the Air Force? Pararescue and Combat Controller sound like something I would like.

There are a few others, but the ones I listed are the most popular. You can find them all at www.airforce.com as well as all the other jobs we offer.

One more question....though I don't really have any interest in flying any aircraft, how many years in service does one need to be allowed to fly one? I once heard it took 6 years.

One more question....though I don't really have any interest in flying any aircraft, how many years in service does one need to be allowed to fly one? I once heard it took 6 years.

The_Ish

You can fly helo's by going to Warrant Officer School. Plane's are different. You need to be an officer first off.

If you want to fly...go Navy not Air Force.

[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="H3llstrike"]Navy SEALs are the most badass and then Army Delta force.....RiSkyBiZ-13

Army Delta Force? Delta Force isn't part of the Army, or any other branch for that matter. Their acceptance rate is MUCH lower than any other Special Operations, and their training is much tougher physically and mentally (which explains the lower acceptance rate). The gov't still won't officially acknowledge their existance. In other words, they own the SEALS. That's why I didn't even bother adding them to this poll.

well i acidently pressed army but air force is definantly the coolest but the real quistion is not the fovrite its the branch that does the most for the countrycowboymonkey21

The most important factor in any war is Air Superiority. I vote the Air Force, not only because i plan on joining the USAF as an officer after i graduate college, but becuase it's awesome.

the air force also has pararescue

[QUOTE="dylan9999"]

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

RiSkyBiZ-13

SAS is British, I was just talking about American military. Btw, Delta Force > SAS.

no SAS > all...

and delta force definitely doesnt have a better track record than the SAS.

If you want to fly...go Navy not Air Force.

LJS9502_basic

...what?

One more question....though I don't really have any interest in flying any aircraft, how many years in service does one need to be allowed to fly one? I once heard it took 6 years.

The_Ish

It depends, you have to be an officer, and you'd have to be one REALLY good officer to make the required rank to fly in 6 years. Helicopters = Warrent Officer, that's like the limbo in between enlisted and officer. They still get saluted, but they're not full on commisioned officers.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="dylan9999"]

The Air Force.

btw what category would the S.A.S. be put in? because they are the best of the best.

muppet1010

SAS is British, I was just talking about American military. Btw, Delta Force > SAS.

no SAS > all...

and delta force definitely doesnt have a better track record than the SAS.

I don't think much information is available on either group's "track record"...