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#101 QuistisTrepe_
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It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

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#102 themagicbum9720
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i don't care about it, it's only a flag. it means nothing to me.
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#103 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="Lucien-Lachance"] lol an eye for an eyexaos

makes the whole world blind

And a flag for a flag makes the whole world... ummm... less flaggy? I am suddenly remembering the Simpsons where Milhouse vomited on the flag and Kent Brockman talked about how upsetting it was to "flag hags".

that would happen to happened at their school now would it?

I can remember on futruama when zoidberg ate the american flag which started a war. omg that was funny. I wonder if I ate the american flag on memorail day. would that a start between US and India? :P

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#104 diegosanchezMMA
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honestly TC honestly

this upsets me, and i have sertian choice words i can not share but let me tell you this

they will get theirs on saturday you watch, go usa go usa!

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#105 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="T_P_O"] If you do, come around my neighbourhood, I'm sick of seeing them out of everyone's windows.Pirate700

You're British?

People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

The UK flag? You mean the Union Jack. Plus, Union Jack =/= St George's Cross.
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#106 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="T_P_O"] If you do, come around my neighbourhood, I'm sick of seeing them out of everyone's windows.Pirate700

You're British?

People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

I agree. Seriously, Show some Respect.
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#107 clyde46
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It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

QuistisTrepe_
hurr hurr, says the guy on the internet. It was to get peoples attention and it achieved that.
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#108 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It's disgusting.

StopThePresses
I agree. I think we should burn their flag now.

You do that. Just don't ever gripe about flag burning after you do.

I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?
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#109 Oleg_Huzwog
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I wonder if I ate the american flag on memorail day. would that a start between US and India? :P

TheShadowLord07

Nah. The adventure you'll have trying to pass that flag through your system will be enough punishment.

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#110 StopThePresses
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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I agree. I think we should burn their flag now. Snipes_2
You do that. Just don't ever gripe about flag burning after you do.

I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?

I said to go ahead and do it. Just don't contradict yourself later.

I'm pretty sure they aren't the only people in their country.

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#111 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I agree. I think we should burn their flag now.

You do that. Just don't ever gripe about flag burning after you do.

I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?

That... has nothing to do with what StopThePresses said :\ The point being made was that if you engage in behavior that you are complaining about, you are forfeiting the right to complain about it.
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#112 Atheos-Arkhaios
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If someone isn't offended by their flag being burnt, then there's no use trying to explain it to them. It is a visceral reaction that I have when I see something like that, akin to a pit in my stomach because of the disrespect that it shows. I don't care if it's soccer fans or idiotic anarchist protestors here at home, it's upsetting. Sure, some people see a piece of cloth, but I see a lot more than that.

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#113 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"] You do that. Just don't ever gripe about flag burning after you do.

I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?

That... has nothing to do with what StopThePresses said :\ The point being made was that if you engage in behavior that you are complaining about, you are forfeiting the right to complain about it.

I didn't so I can complain all I want.
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#114 yagr_zero
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I think there are many other ways to go about protesting your organization's ownership other than burning a nation's flag. There are plenty of people within the US that will react against that, people those protesters didn't intend on protesting against.
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#115 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"] You do that. Just don't ever gripe about flag burning after you do.StopThePresses

I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?

I said to go ahead and do it. Just don't contradict yourself later.

I'm pretty sure they aren't the only people in their country.

If I burned their flag, I wouldn't complain. I would be stooping down to their level then.
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#116 akbar13
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Their mad that we won the American Revolution.

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#117 Espada12
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[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

clyde46

hurr hurr, says the guy on the internet. It was to get peoples attention and it achieved that.

The hilarious thing is if people knew anything about these situations they would know that they have been expressing their case in an intelligent way, it's only this type of display that gets attention though...

Again see Glazers - they single handedly put the richest club in the world in debt.

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#118 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]Soccer fans, especially British soccer fans are pretty stupid sometimes. You can't use them as an example for all British people though.

taj7575

Not all, just half. In my American mind, I picture half of England is comprised of hooligans, and the other half behaves exactly like something out of a Jane Austen novel.

I had a friend who lived in London for a few years and came back, and no lie, but he said almost the same damn thing as you did :lol:

Lol Love it fair play thats funny. Im English by the way.
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#119 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You're British?Snipes_2

People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

I agree. Seriously, Show some Respect.

Now its disrespectful to fly a flag?

Do you get offended by every thing flag related? :P

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#120 jwsoul
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It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

QuistisTrepe_
Its mainly to get attention i should imagine. Oh look they have got attention!
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#121 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I thought it wasn't disrespectful or anything to burn a flag? Why would they be bothered by it?

That... has nothing to do with what StopThePresses said :\ The point being made was that if you engage in behavior that you are complaining about, you are forfeiting the right to complain about it.

I didn't so I can complain all I want.

But you suggested doing so, and were told if you did so, that it would be hypocritical to complain about it :\ Have you forgotten where this digression started? :(
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#122 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You're British?clyde46

People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

The UK flag? You mean the Union Jack. Plus, Union Jack =/= St George's Cross.

The Union Jack is the flag of the United kingdom. The St George Cross is just the flag of England
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#123 QuistisTrepe_
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[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

clyde46

hurr hurr, says the guy on the internet. It was to get peoples attention and it achieved that.

If it were self-evident, why did you feel the need to comment to me then?:roll:

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#124 comp_atkins
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meh.. its just cloth, stitching and dye.. and its just a game.
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#125 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

toast_burner

I agree. Seriously, Show some Respect.

Now its disrespectful to fly a flag?

Do you get offended by every thing flag related? :P

but duuuuuuude they're burning the AMERICAN DREAM :o they're BURNING apple pie and baseball and owning gratuitous amounts of guns
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#126 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's just plain idiotic and savage. "Hey guys let's burn a flag since we can't express our thoughts in any intelligible way!"

QuistisTrepe_

hurr hurr, says the guy on the internet. It was to get peoples attention and it achieved that.

If it were self-evident, why did you feel the need to comment to me then?:roll:

You insulted there methods ("Cant say i blame you") Yet look how effective its been.
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"] but duuuuuuude they're burning the AMERICAN DREAM :o they're BURNING apple pie and baseball and owning gratuitous amounts of guns

The one time my mom tried to make an apple pie, she burned it :o She's anti-American :(
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#128 scorch-62
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Normally I don't care about such actions, but this instance seems totally idiotic to me.
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#129 Jfisch93
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UK wants another butt whipping? :P

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#130 35cent
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It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

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#131 Jfisch93
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It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

35cent

It's not the flag... it's what it represents.

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#132 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="35cent"]

It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

Jfisch93

It's not the flag... it's what it represents.

And which was in no way damaged by the actions of a handful of goofballs. Edit: Hell, I'd argue that the freedom to burn the flag is part of what the flag itself represents; mind... blown!
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#133 MushroomWig
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Liverpool!? Oh, why am I not surprised. -__- Population: Chav central.
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#134 C3Le5tiaL
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That is just messed up.

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#135 Atheos-Arkhaios
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

[QUOTE="35cent"]

It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

xaos

It's not the flag... it's what it represents.

And which was in no way damaged by the actions of a handful of goofballs. Edit: Hell, I'd argue that the freedom to burn the flag is part of what the flag itself represents; mind... blown!

This is true. I'll let people burn the flag all day because that's one freedom it represents, and I reserve the right to absolutely hate those scumbags because of their actions, another thing the flag represents.
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#136 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I agree. Seriously, Show some Respect. Richymisiak

Now its disrespectful to fly a flag?

Do you get offended by every thing flag related? :P

but duuuuuuude they're burning the AMERICAN DREAM :o they're BURNING apple pie and baseball and owning gratuitous amounts of guns

Apple pie isn't American
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#137 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

[QUOTE="35cent"]

It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

It's not the flag... it's what it represents.

And which was in no way damaged by the actions of a handful of goofballs. Edit: Hell, I'd argue that the freedom to burn the flag is part of what the flag itself represents; mind... blown!

/nick Bill_Hicks true ****, man.
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#138 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Now its disrespectful to fly a flag?

Do you get offended by every thing flag related? :P

toast_burner

but duuuuuuude they're burning the AMERICAN DREAM :o they're BURNING apple pie and baseball and owning gratuitous amounts of guns

Apple pie isn't American

i know its just the stereotype :p

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#139 scorch-62
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Apple pie isn't Americantoast_burner

We still have fortune cookies, dammit! :x

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#140 T_REX305
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Really? This group of myopic peasants took it upon themselves to desecrate the American flag – the Stars and Stripes which represents 300 million people – on the basis of two men's actions (or in some cases, inaction)?

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lol are you serious. its obvious that they dont care if the flag reps. 300 million people.

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#141 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

[QUOTE="35cent"]

It's just a flag. I'll buy you guys a new one if it makes you feel better:P

xaos

It's not the flag... it's what it represents.

And which was in no way damaged by the actions of a handful of goofballs. Edit: Hell, I'd argue that the freedom to burn the flag is part of what the flag itself represents; mind... blown!

exactly. america isn't hurt if some doofuses burn a piece of cloth.. and if you get enraged by it then these idiots have accomplished their goal.
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#142 POPEYE1716
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Maybe if Americans would stop ruining English clubs they wouldn't do that. Glazers I'm looking at you...

Espada12
Donovan says "Hi" Actually praised a lot over their. Cant wait for the US to beat ENGLAND...again.
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#143 MattDistillery
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We go way back, America and the UK. We've fought wars against each other and won ones side by side, and I'm proud to call some of my best friends Englishmen. To those noble English folks who can understand what it would feel like to watch a bunch of Yanks burning the flag of St. George in a public melee, I look forward to a spirited match on Saturday and may the best team on the day win.

But for those 500 or so Liverpool supporters (and most likely fans of the Three Lions) who simply acted before they really thought about what their actions meant to an entire nation, you've embarrassed your country, your club and your Queen.

Yeah, I said it.

What the author in the link said pretty much covers it.

And I agree with Pirate, it's disgusting.

The Queen and Parliament should be saying something about this...we are their best ally, saved their butts in two World Wars.:?

topsemag55

1.) The queen is A-political and not allowed to make statements bout other nations. E.g the USA sent her a birthday card on the wrong date last week, but she wasn't allowed to comment about it as she cannot openly release a statement about another nation.

2.) Why should parliment apologize? they didn't burn the flag, the people thatburnt the flags actions arn't held accountble to MP's.

3.) You didn't save are butts in the War's we ad a far larger standing army and Navy than the USA.

4.) Your an ally thats dragged us into wars no-one in this country supports and most of the population want us to pull out. (Even bowing to public pressure and withdrawing from Iraq)

5.) It's a flag it only has as much power as an individual holds to it. Which I know in America is quite alot due to cultural diffrences e.g Pledge of alegance wheras the British public wouldn't really care if someone burnt a Uk flag as we hold less revrence for a flag.

I mean Ireland doesn't complain (To much)even tho theres basically a public holiday in Northern Irelandwhere people celebrate not being Irish and burn Irish flags.

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#144 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="xaos"] That... has nothing to do with what StopThePresses said :\ The point being made was that if you engage in behavior that you are complaining about, you are forfeiting the right to complain about it.

I didn't so I can complain all I want.

But you suggested doing so, and were told if you did so, that it would be hypocritical to complain about it :\ Have you forgotten where this digression started? :(

I suggested it, I didn't do it though. :)
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#145 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]People actually fly UK flags by me here in the US. I see tons of homes that have the US flag on one side of the garage and the UK on the other. Seems kinda odd, but hey it's better than burning one. :P

toast_burner

I agree. Seriously, Show some Respect.

Now its disrespectful to fly a flag?

Do you get offended by every thing flag related? :P

Uhm..I said flying the flag is a sign of Respect. Why would I agree and then tell him to show respect for the same thing I agreed with?
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#146 Setsa
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Yeesh... the British take soccer waaayyyy too seriously >.>
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#147 MushroomWig
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Yeesh... the British take soccer waaayyyy too seriously >.>Setsa
Some do, not all. :P Just like anywhere else.
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#148 majoras_wrath
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Oh nooooooooo....they're burning pieces of fabric. :( Call me crazy, but I have no respect for a purported symbol.
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#149 Ringx55
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I'm Canadian... Can't say I care... sorry :(
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#150 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

We go way back, America and the UK. We've fought wars against each other and won ones side by side, and I'm proud to call some of my best friends Englishmen. To those noble English folks who can understand what it would feel like to watch a bunch of Yanks burning the flag of St. George in a public melee, I look forward to a spirited match on Saturday and may the best team on the day win.

But for those 500 or so Liverpool supporters (and most likely fans of the Three Lions) who simply acted before they really thought about what their actions meant to an entire nation, you've embarrassed your country, your club and your Queen.

Yeah, I said it.

What the author in the link said pretty much covers it.

And I agree with Pirate, it's disgusting.

The Queen and Parliament should be saying something about this...we are their best ally, saved their butts in two World Wars.:?

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1.) The queen is A-political and not allowed to make statements bout other nations. E.g the USA sent her a birthday card on the wrong date last week, but she wasn't allowed to comment about it as she cannot openly release a statement about another nation.

2.) Why should parliment apologize? they didn't burn the flag, the people thatburnt the flags actions arn't held accountble to MP's.

3.) You didn't save are butts in the War's we ad a far larger standing army and Navy than the USA.

4.) Your an ally thats dragged us into wars no-one in this country supports and most of the population want us to pull out. (Even bowing to public pressure and withdrawing from Iraq)

5.) It's a flag it only has as much power as an individual holds to it. Which I know in America is quite alot due to cultural diffrences e.g Pledge of alegance wheras the British public wouldn't really care if someone burnt a Uk flag as we hold less revrence for a flag.

I mean Ireland doesn't complain (To much)even tho theres basically a public holiday in Northern Irelandwhere people celebrate not being Irish and burn Irish flags.

1). You can Blame Obama for that. He represent America now (Sadly). 2). It's a sign of total disrespect for another country. If 500 Americans burned a British Flag I'm sure Obama would make it a point to kiss the Queens Rear End as soon as possible 3). The United States military is the second largest in the world, after the People's Liberation Army of China, and has troops deployed around the globe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_armed_forces#History 4). Lol What? No one said you had to join in any War. If you're an ally its expected of you to help out though. I wouldn't say you were "Dragged" in, I do recall multiple terrorist bombings. In the end you decide whether or not to join in. 5). Yes, The Flag is Held in High esteem here. Therefore, they should have respected it in stead of burning it.