Football (Soccor) > Throwball (American Football)

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

It doesn't take more skill to play one sport over another. You can become equally great at anything.

I absolutely suck at golf. Are you telling me that I can never become a decent golf player, no matter how hard I try?

No, there are people that can't play good football (soccer), no matter how much they try.6_volts

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.Gamer556

It doesn't take more skill to play one sport over another. You can become equally great at anything.

I absolutely suck at golf. Are you telling me that I can never become a decent golf player, no matter how hard I try?

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

What do you think of Rugby?

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

[QUOTE="6_volts"]No, there are people that can't play good football (soccer), no matter how much they try.SolidSnake35

Yeah, because Waterboy is the definitive example of American football.

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="6_volts"]No, there are people that can't play good football (soccer), no matter how much they try.Gamer556

Yeah, because Waterboy is the definitive example of American football.

I think football is way better than american football. In fact, I can't stand the NFL or college football. I just hate it, i think it's stupid.

As for the atmosphere of the fans, football wins hands down. Mexico fans are somewhat crazy, but the real craziness is in South American with Brazil and Argentina.

Apperently the TC has never been to a NFL and/or college football game.

For me, got go with Football(nfl and college) > soccer (yet both are fun to play)

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

It doesn't take more skill to play one sport over another. You can become equally great at anything.

I absolutely suck at golf. Are you telling me that I can never become a decent golf player, no matter how hard I try?

You don't need a lot of skills to play golf? From my experience, it's the most challenging sport to get into, by far.

My point is, no game is more "skilled" than another. You can always become more skilled at any sport you choose to play. There is no set limit. I don't even know why this came up. I never said professional soccer players weren't highly skilled. I said the nature of the sport is sloppy.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

DeeJayInphinity

Topic: Football (soccer) > Thwoball? (American Football)

excuse me for misunderstanding. A misleading title and i thought the original post was the rationalization for the topic title.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

6_volts

instead of a condescending thanks, explain how soccer is more demanding and sway me.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.Gamer556

It doesn't take more skill to play one sport over another. You can become equally great at anything.

I absolutely suck at golf. Are you telling me that I can never become a decent golf player, no matter how hard I try?

You don't need a lot of skills to play golf? From my experience, it's the most challenging sport to get into, by far.

My point is, no game is more "skilled" than another. You can always become more skilled at any sport you choose to play. There is no set limit. I don't even know why this came up. I never said professional soccer players weren't highly skilled. I said the nature of the sport is sloppy.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

Topic: Football (soccer) > Thwoball? (American Football)

excuse me for misunderstanding. A misleading title and i thought the original post was the rationalization for the topic title.

This is based puerly on match atmosphere.

muff07

Soccer wins

why cause they have soccer moms and they are all crazy

[QUOTE="Katafran"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Im not sure if that is such a good thing. Ive heard of quite a few soccer related murders, not so much for other sports... 6_volts

That is true

But there was the poor guy who wore the UT shirt in Oklahoma and got castrated and beat to an inch of his life for it.

All sports have scary fanatics.

And no one can say which has a greater feeling, because honestly, I'd be bored with soccer(a sport where it's possible to end the game in a tie? really?) and many soccer fans would be bored with American Football(too complicated I guess).

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]if american football players didnt wear pads we would have the potential for a fatality on every play.

i mean, take a rugby player and have him stand there and have patrick willis running at him full speed directly at his rib cage from 50 yards away. People who hate football and want to argue about it will ignore what I just said.No pads for willis either.

Oleg_Huzwog

I think it's arguable that the reason they hit so hard is because of the pads, rather than the reason they wear pads is because they hit so hard. Wearing all that armor gives people a false sense of security and encourages riskier actions.

umm...no. Play no pads backyard football with a ( any skill level ) football player and they still play physical. Thats what football's all about.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]if american football players didnt wear pads we would have the potential for a fatality on every play.

i mean, take a rugby player and have him stand there and have patrick willis running at him full speed directly at his rib cage from 50 yards away. People who hate football and want to argue about it will ignore what I just said.No pads for willis either.

Oleg_Huzwog

I think it's arguable that the reason they hit so hard is because of the pads, rather than the reason they wear pads is because they hit so hard. Wearing all that armor gives people a false sense of security and encourages riskier actions.

if you add professional competitiveness to it with no pads youre gonna get the same thing.

actually the nfl (even though theyres pads) has unwritten rules about how to hit each other because its almost garunteed youre gonna be injured pretty severely. Tom Brady just go put down for the seaso because the guy who sacked him hit too low. I strongly believe football to be the most physically demanding sport, rough and strategic.

That being said, I dont think running for 90 minutes is that physically demanding, especially if youre used to it.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

instead of a condescending thanks, explain how soccer is more demanding and sway me.

That being said, I dont think running for 90 minutes is that physically demanding, especially if youre used to it.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.SolidSnake35

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.H8sMikeMoore

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

DeeJayInphinity

Topic: Football (soccer) > Thwoball? (American Football)

excuse me for misunderstanding. A misleading title and i thought the original post was the rationalization for the topic title.

This is based puerly on match atmosphere.

muff07

match atmosphere is freaking awesome in an american football game. SOMETHING is going on EVERY play. Its amazing watching and playing a football game.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

6_volts

instead of a condescending thanks, explain how soccer is more demanding and sway me.

You are speaking in soccer jargon. but by different leagues do you mean high school, Division 1, College, Pro. And no, canada plays football a bit. All i'm saying is football is more phisically demanding and takes players with skill. Soccer takes a great amount of skill i have no doubt, but it seems more "go for it" than having to memorize specific plays.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

That being said, I dont think running for 90 minutes is that physically demanding, especially if youre used to it.

DeeJayInphinity

im talking about in comparison. I wasnt trying to say its not physically demanding at all. The more you run the better you get at it and the longer you can endure. I do think football is much more physically demanding than soccer. You use more of your body, and I would like to see who burns more calories. but unfotunately since theres more to football its hard to say.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

MunkeySpunk92

instead of a condescending thanks, explain how soccer is more demanding and sway me.

You are speaking in soccer jargon. but by different leagues do you mean high school, Division 1, College, Pro. And no, canada plays football a bit. All i'm saying is football is more phisically demanding and takes players with skill. Soccer takes a great amount of skill i have no doubt, but it seems more "go for it" than having to memorize specific plays.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on the position you play. every guy has aspecific job.

You are speaking in soccer jargon. but by different leagues do you mean high school, Division 1, College, Pro. And no, canada plays football a bit. All i'm saying is football is more phisically demanding and takes players with skill. Soccer takes a great amount of skill i have no doubt, but it seems more "go for it" than having to memorize specific plays.

MunkeySpunk92

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

That being said, I dont think running for 90 minutes is that physically demanding, especially if youre used to it.

H8sMikeMoore

im talking about in comparison. I wasnt trying to say its not physically demanding at all. The more you run the better you get at it and the longer you can endure. I do think football is much more physically demanding than soccer. You use more of your body, and I would like to see who burns more calories. but unfotunately since theres more to football its hard to say.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on your position. A quarterback has not only all the pressure before the snap, but he has to have the ability to know what he has to do with the ball, when, and to trust his offensive linemen to not let eleven guys swarm him to the ground.

Defensive positions require that you make split second decisions based on where the play is moving b/c they pretty much guess.

Not to mention the fact that someone on the field has to sprint the ball at some point, that may be after thay catch it from 60 yards away.

Don't assume football is mindless hitting. It's more like intense chess. You need to move you "pieces" and plan three steps ahead, all the while trying not to be stomped into the dirt.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.H8sMikeMoore

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on the position you play. every guy has aspecific job.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

DeeJayInphinity

Topic: Football (soccer) > Thwoball? (American Football)

excuse me for misunderstanding. A misleading title and i thought the original post was the rationalization for the topic title.

This is based puerly on match atmosphere.

muff07

I guess i didn't see the second quote. You got me with my pants down thar.

Don't assume football is mindless hitting. It's more like intense chess. You need to move you "pieces" and plan three steps ahead, all the while trying not to be stomped into the dirt.

MunkeySpunk92

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.taj7575

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.MunkeySpunk92

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on your position. A quarterback has not only all the pressure before the snap, but he has to have the ability to know what he has to do with the ball, when, and to trust his offensive linemen to not let eleven guys swarm him to the ground.

Defensive positions require that you make split second decisions based on where the play is moving b/c they pretty much guess.

Not to mention the fact that someone on the field has to sprint the ball at some point, that may be after thay catch it from 60 yards away.

Don't assume football is mindless hitting. It's more like intense chess. You need to move you "pieces" and plan three steps ahead, all the while trying not to be stomped into the dirt.

not to mention if the defense thinks the offense is going to run and theyre going to pass they have to either call an audible or when the ball is snapped they have to adjust everything as they go, which can be very hectic. I wsa never a defensive player myself but that must be stressful

Soccer wins

why cause they have soccer moms and they are all crazy

leonard88

But hockey moms are pigs with lipstick.

OMG POLITICAL WARFAR BEGINZ NAO!!!!

Anyway, I'm still amazed at how much soccer players run in one match. It easily outdos American football in that category. As for atmosphere, never been to a football or American football game, so I can't comment on that.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on the position you play. every guy has aspecific job.

thats a lot of explaining. You could honestly write a book about it. I suggest going a google search or even looking on wikipedia for football positions.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.MunkeySpunk92

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on your position. A quarterback has not only all the pressure before the snap, but he has to have the ability to know what he has to do with the ball, when, and to trust his offensive linemen to not let eleven guys swarm him to the ground.

Defensive positions require that you make split second decisions based on where the play is moving b/c they pretty much guess.

Not to mention the fact that someone on the field has to sprint the ball at some point, that may be after thay catch it from 60 yards away.

Don't assume football is mindless hitting. It's more like intense chess. You need to move you "pieces" and plan three steps ahead, all the while trying not to be stomped into the dirt.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"]

so soccer is better than real football, b/c of it's fans? swing and a miss. I don't even know how a soccer game is played. I never understood the fascination with it. Now football may seem mindless on the outside. But there are so many plays and routes and steps you need to know. In soccer, you really don't think about getting dove on by a 300 pound lineman. Real football is so much more demanding

6_volts

instead of a condescending thanks, explain how soccer is more demanding and sway me.

You are speaking in soccer jargon. but by different leagues do you mean high school, Division 1, College, Pro. And no, canada plays football a bit. All i'm saying is football is more phisically demanding and takes players with skill. Soccer takes a great amount of skill i have no doubt, but it seems more "go for it" than having to memorize specific plays.

they practice their ***es off mon-fri. They put in their final adjustments on saturday, and theyre set to play on sunday.

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Pfft. You don't know atmosphere until you've been to a college football game in the South. 100,000 people in the stands, and just as many grilling in the parking lot. You'd understand if you had ever been to the old Mile High Stadium, in the South Stands. It's where the regular guys sat, and the entire bleachers would literally quake. You'd have thought the whole stadium was coming down.Katafran

Or any Texas A&M Versus University of Texas game. Jeezus. They go absolutely nuts.

I prefer futebol too, one of the best sports to watch on tv simply because of the lack of commercials. Can be lame to watch when it's just falta falta falta falta though. I like American football too, but it's generally less fun to watch -- the recent chargers vs broncos game was pretty good though.

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk92"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.H8sMikeMoore

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

depends on your position. A quarterback has not only all the pressure before the snap, but he has to have the ability to know what he has to do with the ball, when, and to trust his offensive linemen to not let eleven guys swarm him to the ground.

Defensive positions require that you make split second decisions based on where the play is moving b/c they pretty much guess.

Not to mention the fact that someone on the field has to sprint the ball at some point, that may be after thay catch it from 60 yards away.

Don't assume football is mindless hitting. It's more like intense chess. You need to move you "pieces" and plan three steps ahead, all the while trying not to be stomped into the dirt.

not to mention if the defense thinks the offense is going to run and theyre going to pass they have to either call an audible or when the ball is snapped they have to adjust everything as they go, which can be very hectic. I wsa never a defensive player myself but that must be stressful

Yup, I agree completely. I can never understand the people who say football is mindless hitting. There's so much work that goes into reading plays, making adjustments etc.

Victory is ours, gentlemen.
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Being in those stands is definitely one of the greatest feelings in the world. :)DeeJayInphinity

Sorry we win.

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[QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Soccer is a sloppy game and is boring to watch.6_volts

its not sloppy at all, every aspect of "throwball" is planned. If theres one thing you cant say about american football is that its sloppy. The game is the most strategic sport there is. And the skill argument is highly debatable. Theres a lot more to american football than there is soccer, and I cant imagine you saying otherwise if you ever watched a game.

It wasnt supposed to be funny. It was a facepalm for how dumb you sounded.

I could also say at the same time "what do soccer players do? run around for 90 minutes?"

But I wont say or agree with that, because soccer is a fun sport too, and is a lot more than that.

you sit here, and diss american football, while you've never watched it or been to an american football game.