For all you conspiracy believers of 9/11...

History channel has a program running on right now that is going down the list with every claim and refuting every single one with FACTS.. Just thought you guys should know this.

Facts won't deter the ideas of a fool. >_>SolidSnake35

Wait, so people on that thread are serious....

*goes off to read thread*

there is no conspiracy.rabidwolf86

History channel = only facts.

True story. :cough:

Facts won't deter the ideas of a fool. >_>SolidSnake35

sig worthy.

Plz for all that is good do not go here load of bull

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Facts won't deter the ideas of a fool. >_>Severed_Hand

sig worthy.

yea definitly

The History Channel is totally compromised by the US Military. It's a propaganda machine designed to satisfy us with historical fallacies in favor of the US ALWAYS.quiglythegreat

Yet you use Loose Change.. :roll: They went down the list and gave evidence that shown absolute proof in numerous points.. Such as the steel structure for instance.. Of course the steel doesn't melt at the temperatures the fire was at, but it was hot enough to compromise its integrity where the Steel lost 50% of its strength on that floor.

Another great point is the fact that you fools think there were explosives in there.. You know how many months of carefully planting not to mention ripping the building apart to place each explosion to get a perfect demolition? Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of feet of wiring it needed.. All to to explode exactly.. Lets not forget the hundreds of people that would have to be working in on there.. I am sorry but this is flat out rediculous, I question your intelligence, common sense alone shows you how unlikely something like that is..

Facts won't deter the ideas of a fool. >_>SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]The History Channel is totally compromised by the US Military. It's a propaganda machine designed to satisfy us with historical fallacies in favor of the US ALWAYS.sSubZerOo

Yet you use Loose Change.. :roll: They went down the list and gave evidence that shown absolute proof in numerous points.. Such as the steel structure for instance.. Of course the steel doesn't melt at the temperatures the fire was at, but it was hot enough to compromise its integrity where the Steel lost 50% of its strength on that floor.

Another great point is the fact that you fools think there were explosives in there.. You know how many months of carefully planting not to mention ripping the building apart to place each explosion to get a perfect demolition? Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of feet of wiring it needed.. All to to explode exactly.. Lets not forget the hundreds of people that would have to be working in on there.. I am sorry but this is flat out rediculous, I question your intelligence, common sense alone shows you how unlikely something like that is..

The History Channel is totally compromised by the US Military. It's a propaganda machine designed to satisfy us with historical fallacies in favor of the US ALWAYS.quiglythegreat

Of course it is...because there's always an excuse when you know you're wrong.

lol conspiracies.

BTW wb 1ND1FF3R3NT, haven't seen you ina while.;)

lol conspiracies.

BTW wb 1ND1FF3R3NT, haven't seen you ina while.;)

GTA3_Darkel

Yes. I moved, I switched colleges, I've been working a lot, and I'm getting married in 6 months. So I'm a little busy right now.

But you know...I'm always up for political discussions.

I'll just admit that I have absolutely no way to separate the truth from the lies. Could be a conspiracy. It's even more frightening than the possibility of a terrorist attack, but it could be all that.nopalversion

That's how you must think. People who call conspiracy theorists ''insane'' or who insults them for no reason are even worse than those they insult. Being open to all scenarios is the only logical choice

Why are you all saying ''oh no there are NO conspiracies ans conspiracy theorists are INSANE and they have no life''? You kinda look like scared people who don't want to admit that there's a POSSIBILITY that your government is lying. If you say that there is NO conspiracy or that there IS one, you're all liars. Period. You must accept that both cases are very possible.Timesplitter14

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]Why are you all saying ''oh no there are NO conspiracies ans conspiracy theorists are INSANE and they have no life''? You kinda look like scared people who don't want to admit that there's a POSSIBILITY that your government is lying. If you say that there is NO conspiracy or that there IS one, you're all liars. Period. You must accept that both cases are very possible.darkfox101

America did that stuff at WW1 (they sent the Lusitania) to enter the war. 9/11 being a way to enter the war in Afghanistan would be very plausible. And there's NOTHING better for a country's economy than to enter a war

[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]Why are you all saying ''oh no there are NO conspiracies ans conspiracy theorists are INSANE and they have no life''? You kinda look like scared people who don't want to admit that there's a POSSIBILITY that your government is lying. If you say that there is NO conspiracy or that there IS one, you're all liars. Period. You must accept that both cases are very possible.Timesplitter14

America did that stuff at WW1 (they sent the Lusitania) to enter the war. 9/11 being a way to enter the war in Afghanistan would be very plausible. And there's NOTHING better for a country's economy than to enter a war

That's how you must think. People who call conspiracy theorists ''insane'' or who insults them for no reason are even worse than those they insult. Being open to all scenarios is the only logical choice

Timesplitter14

Please, don't bring the L word up in a Gamespot thread! It could de-stabilize its fragile ecosystem.

By the way, I totally agree with you! My point is those who say conspiracy theorists (including me) are dumb/crazy always bring up sources that you can (in one way or many others) relate to the US Government:

-Popular Mechanics ----->Benjamin Chertoff (former research editor) ----->Michael Chertoff (US Secretary of Homeland Security and cousin of Benjamin Chertoff) -----> appointed by George W. Bush

-9/11 Commission -----> chaired by Thomas Kean -----> appointed by George W. Bush

-History Channel -----> partially owned by News Corp. ----->Rupert Murdoch (chief executive) -----> George W. Bush supporter

Anyway, to each his/her own truth!

Do people really think the U.S. government is smart enough, organized enough, competent enough to orchestrate a cover-up of this magnitude?

People who make a generilsation such as "conspiracy theorists are crazy" are the people in the wrong.

What's wrong with being open minded and seeking alternatives that make more sense than what we've been told. If everyone beleived 100% what they were told then imagine how the world would be, we'd still think the world was flat and stuff. At first everyone beleived the world was flat and it was silly to think otherwise, hey maybe there were people saying "lol you people who think it isn't flat are crazy" and then after time came evidence that it wasn't flat and then everyone beleived the world was in fact sphere and now you are considered crazy if you beleive otherwise.

So, after time and more evidence is created the tables can turn quite easily.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

That's how you must think. People who call conspiracy theorists ''insane'' or who insults them for no reason are even worse than those they insult. Being open to all scenarios is the only logical choice

QuebecSuperstar

Please, don't bring the L word up in a Gamespot thread! It could de-stabilize its fragile ecosystem.

By the way, I totally agree with you! My point is those who say conspiracy theorists (including me) are dumb/crazy always bring up sources that you can (in one way or many others) relate to the US Government:

-Popular Mechanics ----->Benjamin Chertoff (former research editor) ----->Michael Chertoff (US Secretary of Homeland Security and cousin of Benjamin Chertoff) -----> appointed by George W. Bush

-9/11 Commission -----> chaired by Thomas Kean -----> appointed by George W. Bush

-History Channel -----> partially owned by News Corp. ----->Rupert Murdoch (chief executive) -----> George W. Bush supporter

Anyway, to each his/her own truth!

LC and all of the other 911 conspiracy people are just as biased. :roll:

But it doesn't even matter who they support, they bring the facts.

What do you have? Misinterpretations, quotes taken out of context, fallacies, illogical arguments, and lies.

how could anyone believe it was a conspiracy? nobody would be that cruel. dissonantblack

I am, thanks.

bah... take your facts who needs "facts"?

what 9/11 is it the phone # for the police?kaim_i

:o hes right

*puts on foil hat*

[QUOTE="nopalversion"]I'll just admit that I have absolutely no way to separate the truth from the lies. Could be a conspiracy. It's even more frightening than the possibility of a terrorist attack, but it could be all that.Timesplitter14

That's how you must think. People who call conspiracy theorists ''insane'' or who insults them for no reason are even worse than those they insult. Being open to all scenarios is the only logical choice

I get waht you mean there are alot of things that go on which arent totally explained or theres somethign a bit odd about certain things... but being open to all scenarios isnt "ALWAYS" the right thing though...

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]The History Channel is totally compromised by the US Military. It's a propaganda machine designed to satisfy us with historical fallacies in favor of the US ALWAYS.mikeg0788

Yet you use Loose Change.. :roll: They went down the list and gave evidence that shown absolute proof in numerous points.. Such as the steel structure for instance.. Of course the steel doesn't melt at the temperatures the fire was at, but it was hot enough to compromise its integrity where the Steel lost 50% of its strength on that floor.

Another great point is the fact that you fools think there were explosives in there.. You know how many months of carefully planting not to mention ripping the building apart to place each explosion to get a perfect demolition? Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of feet of wiring it needed.. All to to explode exactly.. Lets not forget the hundreds of people that would have to be working in on there.. I am sorry but this is flat out rediculous, I question your intelligence, common sense alone shows you how unlikely something like that is..

Thats pretty funny that you mention that.. BECAUSE THEY GO INTO DEPTH ABOUT THIS as well, on why it happened..

Also read UP ON demolition.. It would take MONTHS for that to be properly wired.. And they would have to TEAR out the entire building in numerous places to get exact postiioning for charges.. I am sorry but you fail because you odviouslly have no idea what your talking about..

I do not like Bush either, but this is flat out rediculous.. Even if Bush would be willing to do this, IT WOULD BE NIGH ON IMPOSSIBLE TO COVER UP.. How would they explain to every one of the hundreds of engineers going into the building and ripping out numerous sections to placelittle black boxs with wires to it...

I can't get over the fact that people actually buy this conspiracy garbage.:?

Do people really think the U.S. government is smart enough, organized enough, competent enough to orchestrate a cover-up of this magnitude?

Oleg_Huzwog

Hell no - are they still dumb enough to try - I hope not.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]Why are you all saying ''oh no there are NO conspiracies ans conspiracy theorists are INSANE and they have no life''? You kinda look like scared people who don't want to admit that there's a POSSIBILITY that your government is lying. If you say that there is NO conspiracy or that there IS one, you're all liars. Period. You must accept that both cases are very possible.darkfox101

America did that stuff at WW1 (they sent the Lusitania) to enter the war. 9/11 being a way to enter the war in Afghanistan would be very plausible. And there's NOTHING better for a country's economy than to enter a war