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#1 cavsfan2320
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After yesterday's episode, who else thinks that Sylar's power is by far the most powerful on the show. Not only can he take abilites, he understands everything. Also, what do oyu think of Season 3 so far. My consensus is that it rocks so far
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#2 hongkingkong
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No its Petrelli! He doesn't need to kill them to have their power!
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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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Peter is the most OP. He has all of Sylars powers + more. Sylar as to kill people to learn their abilities, Peter merely has to be in their vicinity. So inactuality, Peter also has Sylars powers. Just by walking next to Sylar, Peter has sylar's native abilities and all the abilities he stole from people. Not that it matters considering Heroes has been a huge steaming pile since season 2 :?
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#4 Theokhoth
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I missed yesterday's episode.:cry:
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#5 Darth-Caedus
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So far season 3 is alright....but god damn time travel plots:x:x:x
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#6 cool_baller
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Peter is the most OP. He has all of Sylars powers + more. Sylar as to kill people to learn their abilities, Peter merely has to be in their vicinity. So inactuality, Peter also has Sylars powers. Just by walking next to Sylar, Peter has sylar's native abilities and all the abilities he stole from people. Not that it matters considering Heroes has been a huge steaming pile since season 2 :?II_Seraphim_II
Season 3 has been good so far.
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#7 hongkingkong
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I missed yesterday's episode.:cry:Theokhoth

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i have no idea whether you are in USA or if USA is ahead of the UK on this one.

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#8 Skylarkell
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Im intriged by Daphine's character. Skylar was always great although peter's is better because he doesnt have to kill people.

Love Skylar's attitude in the future

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#9 Blitz_Nemesis
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So far season 3 is alright....but god damn time travel plots:x:x:xDarth-Caedus
yah the whole time travelling thing has been killing the show for me. people are just jumping back and forth in time so its really kinda ruining the plot of the story IMO.
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#10 II_Seraphim_II
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So far season 3 is alright....but god damn time travel plots:x:x:xDarth-Caedus

Seriously. Time travel is way too abused. The moment you add liberal time travel (time travel that characters have direct control over) the plot becomes worthless. Your heroes can go back to any point in time and fix their errors. So in actuallity, its like playing a game with unlimited continues...stupid. And Season2 also introduced another major plot killer...claire's blood being able to bring back the dead. Death is meaningless now...its like World of Warcraft now, "oh crap i died, just gimme 2 mins to run back to my body :|" When death becomes pointless, all suspense and danger ceases to exist.

Now, I've only watched the first episode of Season 3 (the double episode) and while it was better I was dissapointed to find out that we are now back to the stupid old time traveling plot. For Christ sake...time travel is what almost killed Xmen! Time travel is messy and unless in the hands of truly talented writers, comes off as a cheap mechanic (which it is). They need to give limitations to heroes time travel. Hiro talks about paradox causing a Quantum rift if he met himself, but in season 2 ( i think it was) he meets himself and nothing happens :| They should have the rule of 3 (created by Piers Anthony) regarding time travel. One can only affect the same period of time 2 times. First time is the normal time stream, second time is when he alters the past, and third time is impossible because 2 equally potent powers of time manipulation will be working against each other thus cancelling each other out and disallowing time travel in that period. Alteast that sets some boundaries and makes time travellers ungodly.

And my last problem with Heroes...Sylar. FFS! Sylar isnt that good of a villian! Even with amazing villians like The Joker, they take a break and let sum other guys terrorize the world! Now we have 3 seasons with Sylar as the villian....not fun anymore. Either kill him off, or have him switch sides and grudgenly help the Heroes. 1 dimensional "i want teh powazzz!" Sylar is getting boring. What makes him pitiful is that he is so cliche'! All he wants is power....I know if i wrote a story in lit class and the villians driving force was "thirst for power" i would get an F. Its over done! do sumthing new. We need smarter villians like Magneto. he doesnt want power, he is actually more of an anti-hero who wants to create a better place for his kind, although at times he takes it too far, but atleast his reasons are understandable and moving.

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#11 AtomicBaconBits
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Season 3 is shaping up to be pretty bad IMO.The bland plot and indiscriminate writing is killing it for me.
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#12 cavsfan2320
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True about Peter. He does have Sylar's power And i agree with the timw traveling elements. There needs to be consequenses of meddling in the past and future. Also, I think one of the major characters needs to get killed off due to time travel. Ando or maya (hoping maya, cant stand her)
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#13 II_Seraphim_II
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True about Peter. He does have Sylar's power And i agree with the timw traveling elements. There needs to be consequenses of meddling in the past and future. Also, I think one of the major characters needs to get killed off due to time travel. Ando or maya (hoping maya, cant stand her) cavsfan2320

Atleast Maya is hot. They should kill off sylar, mohinder, and the cheerleader. Crying was only cute when she was under 18...she needs to grow up! She is by far the most pathetic character in all of heroes.

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#14 AtomicBaconBits
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[QUOTE="cavsfan2320"]True about Peter. He does have Sylar's power And i agree with the timw traveling elements. There needs to be consequenses of meddling in the past and future. Also, I think one of the major characters needs to get killed off due to time travel. Ando or maya (hoping maya, cant stand her) II_Seraphim_II

Atleast Maya is hot. They should kill off sylar, mohinder, and the cheerleader. Crying was only cute when she was under 18...she needs to grow up! She is by far the most pathetic character in all of heroes.

That's exactly how I feel.In every season,she has had something to complain about...it's gone far past annoying now.

Season 1: I JUST WANT A NORMAL LIFE!!!1

Seasin 2: I HAVE A NORMAL LIFE,BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL ANYMORE!11 I CAN'T FIT IN!1!

Season 3: I CAN'T FEEL PAIN ANYMORE!!1 IM GOING TO STOP TRYING AT MY LIFE WAH WAH WAH.

Christ,she's such an immature baby. >__>

And I dislike Maya,also...I'm still waiting for them to kill her off.

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#15 Bloodbath_87
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Sylar can control his abilities much better than Peter, so I would say that makes him stronger.
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#16 Skylarkell
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[QUOTE="cavsfan2320"]True about Peter. He does have Sylar's power And i agree with the timw traveling elements. There needs to be consequenses of meddling in the past and future. Also, I think one of the major characters needs to get killed off due to time travel. Ando or maya (hoping maya, cant stand her) II_Seraphim_II

Atleast Maya is hot. They should kill off sylar, mohinder, and the cheerleader. Crying was only cute when she was under 18...she needs to grow up! She is by far the most pathetic character in all of heroes.

Maya is hot but im sad she got suckered my Mohinder's power.

Mohinder is just horrible scientist, never does anything.

Sylar is okay, I have a soft spot for him.

Claire is getting extremely annoying how she wants everyone to feel pain when she can not. She had somewhat of a good argument not feeling anything but then when she got mopey, I cast her off.

So, who do you guys actually like?

I wish the guy who uses fear and Daphine would gain some backstory.

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#17 dopefiend730
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Heroes is totally the best show on TV right now. For those of you who missed last nights episode, I watch all my Heroes episodes here at this site... http://watchheroesstreaming.com

highly recommended since theyve add the episodes once they are aired

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#18 Blitz_Nemesis
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]So far season 3 is alright....but god damn time travel plots:x:x:xII_Seraphim_II

And my last problem with Heroes...Sylar. FFS!...... Either kill him off, or have him switch sides and grudgenly help the Heroes.

actually sylar is clairs dad's new partner so he has kinda switch sides.
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#19 greenprince
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What's with them trying to portray Sylar as sympathetic and leading him to the path of redemption? I like Sylar as a mass murdering sociopathic, Darwinist with no morals or regret for what he committed. It was his antagonist behaviour that grouped the heroes together in the first place and now the writers are trying to make him a hero? WTF
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#20 Skylarkell
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What's with them trying to portray Sylar as sympathetic and leading him to the path of redemption? I like Sylar as a mass murdering sociopathic, Darwinist with no morals or regret for what he committed. It was his antagonist behaviour that grouped the heroes together in the first place and now the writers are trying to make him a hero? WTFgreenprince

This is what they said in the beginning, Heroes will become Villians and villans will become Heroes

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#21 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]So far season 3 is alright....but god damn time travel plots:x:x:xBlitz_Nemesis

And my last problem with Heroes...Sylar. FFS!...... Either kill him off, or have him switch sides and grudgenly help the Heroes.

actually sylar is clairs dad's new partner so he has kinda switch sides.

ah really!? Well, like i said, i only watched the premiere double episode...so now im just gonna shut up and act like nothing happened :oops: :P

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#22 Eddie5vs1
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No its Petrelli! He doesn't need to kill them to have their power!hongkingkong

I agree, it's Pretrelli. And so far I've been disappointed this season. There are so many twists and turns, new characters, and *POSSIBLE SPOILER* you have to keep the present and future characters seperate that it's not only getting annoying, but the character development is being sacrificed. So far Dexter has delivered though, so I'm not totally disappointed this season.

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#23 gasmaskman
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I'm glad Sylar is turning into a "good" guy now, but I have to say Hayden Whatever-her-name-is has terrible acting skills, especially as Future Claire.
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#24 Blitz_Nemesis
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[QUOTE="greenprince"]What's with them trying to portray Sylar as sympathetic and leading him to the path of redemption? I like Sylar as a mass murdering sociopathic, Darwinist with no morals or regret for what he committed. It was his antagonist behaviour that grouped the heroes together in the first place and now the writers are trying to make him a hero? WTFSkylarkell

This is what they said in the beginning, Heroes will become Villians and villans will become Heroes

well then thats really gonna kill the show if things keep going the way there going. im guessing things are gonna go like this:
peter = bad
sylar = good
that other guy who couldnt die that hiro dug up last episode = good
mohinder = bad (this one is kinda out there but i have a feeling hes gonna go rouge.
clair = bad
Heroes as a series = bad
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#25 Skylarkell
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[QUOTE="Skylarkell"]

[QUOTE="greenprince"]What's with them trying to portray Sylar as sympathetic and leading him to the path of redemption? I like Sylar as a mass murdering sociopathic, Darwinist with no morals or regret for what he committed. It was his antagonist behaviour that grouped the heroes together in the first place and now the writers are trying to make him a hero? WTFBlitz_Nemesis

This is what they said in the beginning, Heroes will become Villians and villans will become Heroes

well then thats really gonna kill the show if things keep going the way there going. im guessing things are gonna go like this:
peter = bad
sylar = good
that other guy who couldnt die that hiro dug up last episode = good
mohinder = bad (this one is kinda out there but i have a feeling hes gonna go rouge.
clair = bad
Heroes as a series = bad

yep all of those are going to happen probably.

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#26 II_Seraphim_II
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Immortal characters = autofail.

Why did the writers go down this slippery slope?

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#27 septemberluc
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I'm digging this season so far. Easily better than Season 2, but not quite up there with Season 1 yet. Then again, we're only 4 episodes into a, what, 25 episode season?
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#28 septemberluc
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Immortal characters = autofail.

Why did the writers go down this slippery slope?

II_Seraphim_II


I think they've already established that the "immortal" characters can be killed with a simple case of decapitation.
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#29 Hungry_bunny
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II_Seraphim_II
You should really watch the rest of the episodes, not only will you get some of the things that you're demanding, you'll understand a lot about Sylar that you didn't know.

But I'm pretty sure that Petrelli only takes powers that are active in his presence... at least, he seems to have a lot of trouble using new powers until he've seen them... not sure how he grabbed the cheerleader's powers though >.>

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#30 InsomniacZombie
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Ok, good rants so far, with a lot of great points, so heres mine.

**If you missed any episodes this is a SPOILER**

I agree that on paper Sylar has by far the most power at this point. However, now his power has become his 'hunger' and he actually seems to hate it. And I agree that the new Sylar with a soul is not as villian like, it does expand his character and the plot of the story (When they killed his kid and he freaked that was pretty awesome).

Future Peter seems to have the most power overall, but now that Peter took Sylars hunger it remains to be seen how this will affect him.

I dont like the fact that the took the cop-out with Nikki/Jessica. It seems like they didnt know where to go with them/her so they killed her off and now all of a sudden they have an icy triplet sister. The split personality was far more interesting.

As far as the time travel goes, it has been a part of this series since the get-go so it has to stay. This weeks episode had a lot of back and forth, and got a little irritating. But thats the path they choose to do in a very Lostesque fashion to keep you saying "Now how the flark did that happen??"

Seaon 3 has been as good as the rest so far, with the exception of Nikki/Jessica. The show is great for anyone like me who loves superpowers.

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#32 Hungry_bunny
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Just a tip. This is a spoiler box :P

[spoiler] Put all your text between these two tags [/spoiler]

It's a little smoother and safer ;)

[spoiler] Just testing [/spoiler]
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#33 Bloodbath_87
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Immortal characters = autofail.

Why did the writers go down this slippery slope?

septemberluc


I think they've already established that the "immortal" characters can be killed with a simple case of decapitation.

Or being shot in the back of the head, according to what Claire said last night.
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I missed yesterday's episode.:cry:Theokhoth

Comes on again tonight at 10pm on G4.

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#35 II_Seraphim_II
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Just a tip. This is a spoiler box :P

[spoiler] Put all your text between these two tags [/spoiler]

It's a little smoother and safer ;)

[spoiler] Just testing [/spoiler] Hungry_bunny

it never works for me. It always takes me to the "your html is not well formed page" and i know its well formed. I've tried it multiple tims but i still get the same stupid error. Sumtimes on good days, it will work but ussually not. But im gonna delete my previous post just in case anyone stumbles onto it :P

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#36 II_Seraphim_II
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Ok, just watched the latest episode, and I gotta say, Heroes has got its flair (sp?) back. Its not as good as season 1, but its a definite improvement. I might actually tune in to watch it rather than record it for later. Im just hoping that this is the last season where time travel is such a big deal. And anyone know wat happened to that girl that got stuck in the future in season 2? You know, the irish girl?
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I'll say this.....Vol. 3 is a little better than 2. Not by much though.
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it never works for me. It always takes me to the "your html is not well formed page" and i know its well formed. I've tried it multiple tims but i still get the same stupid error. Sumtimes on good days, it will work but ussually not. But im gonna delete my previous post just in case anyone stumbles onto it :P

II_Seraphim_II
A trick I use for html-errors, copy everything. Paste it in a notes (.txt) document. Copy again and paste it back, somehow that removes all the bugs or tags that are causing problems.

Ok, just watched the latest episode, and I gotta say, Heroes has got its flair (sp?) back. Its not as good as season 1, but its a definite improvement. I might actually tune in to watch it rather than record it for later. Im just hoping that this is the last season where time travel is such a big deal. And anyone know wat happened to that girl that got stuck in the future in season 2? You know, the irish girl?II_Seraphim_II
That really annoyed me... I'd assume she's a goner now, but not sure how the rules (their rules) apply for a person like her in a time line that doesn't exist anymore.

The time-travelling has comlicated things a lot and I think it's over-used... at the same time, those flashes they get of the future are just the things that make me come back to the show every week >.>

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#39 II_Seraphim_II
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I'll say this.....Vol. 3 is a little better than 2. Not by much though.cell_dweller

I agree. but im hoping that these few eps being better than volume 2 means that the show will steadily improve as it goes on. I dunno about you guys, but i think the show is a lil messy. Too many rehashed mechanics and 20 different stories. Now while that is ok in comics, its annoying here at times because sum of the stories are really boring and they just waste the 40 mins we have :?

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#40 curono
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Peter petrelly. He can absorb everything. HE can get sylar's powers. To bad he is too scared always.
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#41 Dark_Knight6
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I'm very intrigued by Sylar's powers, I have been since he was first revealed. He is, by-far one of my favorites on the show. And, he was awesome in the future. :P
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#42 II_Seraphim_II
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I'm very intrigued by Sylar's powers, I have been since he was first revealed. He is, by-far one of my favorites on the show. And, he was awesome in the future. :PDark_Knight6

yeah that kinda gave me hope for his character. Let just wait and see though, Heroes has broken my heart before so im gonna hold off before jumping in bed with it :P

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yeah that kinda gave me hope for his character. Let just wait and see though, Heroes has broken my heart before so im gonna hold off before jumping in bed with it :P

II_Seraphim_II

I really want to know exactly what his power is. It's understood that he can take the powers of others and he has to remove the top of the their skull to do so but I want to know exactly what he has to do. I wish they'd stop teasing us and tell us already.

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#44 Bloodbath_87
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

yeah that kinda gave me hope for his character. Let just wait and see though, Heroes has broken my heart before so im gonna hold off before jumping in bed with it :P

Dark_Knight6

I really want to know exactly what his power is. It's understood that he can take the powers of others and he has to remove the top of the their skull to do so but I want to know exactly what he has to do. I wish they'd stop teasing us and tell us already.

The brain of an evolved human is different, they're all different. I suppose that when he looks at the brain, he sees how it works, and can then use their ability. That is kind of strange though, because knowing how to use it and being able to use it are two different things.
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#45 Shiggums
Member since 2007 • 21436 Posts
Well...since I didn't watch hardly anything from Season 2, Season 3 is just confusing me :P
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#46 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

yeah that kinda gave me hope for his character. Let just wait and see though, Heroes has broken my heart before so im gonna hold off before jumping in bed with it :P

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I really want to know exactly what his power is. It's understood that he can take the powers of others and he has to remove the top of the their skull to do so but I want to know exactly what he has to do. I wish they'd stop teasing us and tell us already.

The brain of an evolved human is different, they're all different. I suppose that when he looks at the brain, he sees how it works, and can then use their ability. That is kind of strange though, because knowing how to use it and being able to use it are two different things.

yeah my assumption is that when he opens your head, he can see how you use your brain. Then with his advanced mental capabilities, he is able to effectively alter or "fix" how his brain works to match anyone elses. just a thought and luv your sig. The Darkness is a great comic, and the game is great too :D