For people than complain the new star wars films are not good/ruin the originals

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VanDammFan

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#51 VanDammFan
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visually the original 3 still hold up today imo..amazing movies with memorable characters.Timeless..the prequels were ok...Rouge One was really good but you knew the ending..Solo was really good...The Last Jedi wasnt horrible but had some bad moments..The Force Awakens was ok good to see a couple old characters..

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#52  Edited By MirkoS77
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I completely disagree with the notion that the only (or majority of) merit to be granted to the OT films is when viewed within a historical context. They were incredible films then, and they remain incredible films today. They have a tremendous degree of humanity in them, and that’s why so many adore them. They have soul and identity. The Sci-fi/fantasy aspects were only icing on an already great cake.

Seriously, the OT is one of the biggest cultural phenomenons there is, it created industries, it inspired countless people, and it effectively remade cinema as we know it today. That doesn’t happen because they’re bad movies. They’re exceptional ones.

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#53 VFighter
Member since 2016 • 11031 Posts

@MirkoS77: Bingo.

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#54 BigCat2K20
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@turtlethetaffer said:

The original trilogy is a solid, well made series of Science Fiction- fantasy films with good characters and well aged special effects. Yeah, there are plenty of flaws, but that's true of any movie, regardless of what it is (this includes films like the Godfather). The new movies are a mixed bag. TFA was a great way to reintroduce the Star wars we like to the masses, and TLJ was nothing if not ballsy, although alot of the risks it took didn't necessarily pay off.

The REAL response to someone complaining the new movies are ruining the legacy of star Wars is to point to the prequels. Anybody who thinks the new movies are the worst thing about the franchises have either forgotten or are deluding themselves about the quality of the prequels.

I think Original Trilogy is great, but not excellent (nor an masterpiece) like most Star Wars fans wants me to believe. There are flaws in all three movies & I'll leave it at that. As for new S.W. movies, it's good. Without Revenge Of The Sith (my favorite Star Wars movie of all time), the prequels would be an all time hot garbage. Longtime/Hardcore fans seems to forget that prequels movies had more flaws & don't want to admit.

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#55 Acera17
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Too much for children I guess

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#56 Jag85
Member since 2005 • 20674 Posts
@uninspiredcup said:
@tryit said:
@korvus said:

My beef with the new movies is the lack of originality and the very low risk taking. Sure, the original movies were badly acted and cringy and the prequels were corny and cheesy AF but at least they were trying to tell a new story...

thats a stretch.

the stories then really were not that revolutionary or risk taking frankly.

not that these are either but all of them if you know Hero with a Thousand Faces, Masks of God, and/or Power of Myth you can see what is being conveyed although rather simplistically.

This is false. George Lucas used an amalgamation of different elements in a way cinema goers had never really scene before.

e.g. the opening scene and robots taken from The Hidden Fortress, placed in a sci-fi settings, with space nazi's, space pirates, wizards, princess, a boys journey etc... presented like an old fashioned serial from the pre-40's mid story.

Prior to Starwars, you had sterile sci-fi and fantasy movies as two distinct elements. Even in movies like the MCU we see it's influence. Guardians Of The Galaxy being the most obvious example.

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Along with Aliens it's had a massive influence on games. One of the earliest example being Phantasy Star.

Star Wars was basically a mixture of Akira Kurosawa (The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, Sanjuro), Dune, Lawrence of Arabia, Flash Gordon, and Joseph Campbell. George Lucas was a fan of these works, and combined them to create his own universe. And the end result was something original. That's how creativity works, combining pre-existing elements together to create something new.

The original Phantasy Star was basically a mixture of Star Wars with The Hidden Fortress. Phantasy Star's protagonist Alis Landale was like a cross between Princess Yuki (The Hidden Fortress) and Luke Skywalker.

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#57 Chutebox
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Force Awakens.was at least enjoyable to watch, like a summer blockbuster.

I literally enjoyed nothing from TLJ. To me, it's the worst star wars movie by far.... and that's saying something