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#1 LastLaugh90
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Or do you wish you guys didn't have one? I know that would not fly well over here in US. Does she live off tax payer money??

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#2 michael_1234576
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Shes Canada's Queen too..
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#3 ras2009
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I don't really like or dislike her..
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No; she just takes our money, sits there farting, and occasionally pops round to visit someone.

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I feel like sometime in the distant future, being apart of the royal family wont mean anything and you guys will bag the practice.. They have no use at all and live in a palace for free
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#6 enterawesome
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I'm really uneducated in UK's government, but what exactly is the point? Prime Minister is the guy who's basically the president, so the queen does, what?
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#7 Wozmcfc
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No, I hate the Royal family.

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#8 Paladin_King
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Well as a Canadian, it feels pretty damned stupid and pointless.
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#9 Sides
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I like how she speaks :D

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#10 markop2003
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Well she has no real power and brings in a whole tonne of Japanese and American tourists so i think overall she brings in a profit for the country..... though i do hate tourists.....
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#11 clicketyclick
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Shes Canada's Queen too..michael_1234576

Yup, and I love her. Long live the Queen! etc.

And to answer TC's question, yes, the Royal Family lives off taxpayer money. However, you ought to put this in perspective. It costs the average British taxpayer about $1 or $2 per year to have a Queen and Royal Family, who bring in tens of billions of dollars to Britain each year due to tourism. To compare, membership in the EU costs the average British taxpayer over $2,500 per year.

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Well as a Canadian, it feels pretty damned stupid and pointless.Paladin_King

Then who wouldbe on the 20 dollar bill?

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I'm really uneducated in UK's government, but what exactly is the point? Prime Minister is the guy who's basically the president, so the queen does, what?enterawesome
They're really nothing more than a figure head. However they make the UK a huge amount of money in tourism every year and they are an important part of history. I think the royal tax is .35 pounds a year so it's not like it's a huge deal. Im Canadian and I like the Royal family even if they are "useless".
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#15 MrPraline
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I'm not from the UK, but no, not a fan of the royal family.
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#16 markop2003
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I'm really uneducated in UK's government, but what exactly is the point? Prime Minister is the guy who's basically the president, so the queen does, what?enterawesome
She's a figurehead and diplomat really. Up until recently she still held the top powers such as the power to declare war and to suspend parliament.
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#17 clicketyclick
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Isn't this interesting. it seems the Canadians in this thread are more appreciative of the Queen than Britons. Send her over here if you're so ungrateful. Soon though, you'd be left with no royal scandals to read about in your tabloids and you'll start to miss them, but we won't give them back.
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Isn't this interesting. it seems the Canadians in this thread are more appreciative of the Queen than Britons. Send her over here if you're so ungrateful. Soon though, you'd be left with no royal scandals to read about in your tabloids and you'll start to miss them, but we won't give them back.clicketyclick

Well as a Canadian, it feels pretty damned stupid and pointless.Paladin_King

incorrect. Frankly, you're a bit of an oddity. I'm not sure i've ever heard a Canadian show such love for the Queen.

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Isn't this interesting. it seems the Canadians in this thread are more appreciative of the Queen than Britons. Send her over here if you're so ungrateful. Soon though, you'd be left with no royal scandals to read about in your tabloids and you'll start to miss them, but we won't give them back.clicketyclick
Couldn't you take the tabloids too? I certainly don't want them.
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#20 LastLaugh90
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Damn. I guess its not that much for taxpayers but still. Lol Americans have a fit if Obama even goes out to dinner with his family using tax money

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#21 clembo1990
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Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.
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#22 clicketyclick
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]Isn't this interesting. it seems the Canadians in this thread are more appreciative of the Queen than Britons. Send her over here if you're so ungrateful. Soon though, you'd be left with no royal scandals to read about in your tabloids and you'll start to miss them, but we won't give them back.markop2003
Couldn't you take the tabloids too? I certainly don't want them.

Sorry, but since we protect freedom of the press over here while you don't, it's impossible to remove them from your land. :( :P

incorrect. Frankly, you're a bit of an oddity. I'm not sure i've ever heard a Canadian show such love for the Queen.

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Then you must have missed Ace6301's post, because s/he's Canadian and likes the royals too. So you're actually the minority.
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#23 clicketyclick
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Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.clembo1990
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.clicketyclick
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family
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#25 ganon92
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The Queen herself is alright. It's the other members of the family which are embarrassments, mainly Prince Philip, what with all the racist comments and everything that he does.

Other than that, I don't entirely care about them; but it's probably best they stay, as they are a part of our history and they do bring in a lot of tourism.

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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.clicketyclick
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Since you seem to have taken the position of defending the Queen in pitbull-like fashion,....what's with the intense love of the Queen? I'm not being critical here (differing opinions are differing opinions), I'm just curious.
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.LastLaugh90
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family

Worship the royal family???? WTF are you on about?
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#28 Bourbons3
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I like the Queen, yes. I don't think getting rid of the monarchy is a good idea at all.
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family

Worship the royal family???? WTF are you on about?

Lol i worded it a little nasty my bad...Still tho, get a Six Flags....
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.LastLaugh90
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family

Didn't they just file for bankruptcy?
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I don't mind, she doesn't do an awful lot for us, but we respect her just for who she is.
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#32 LastLaugh90
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family

Didn't they just file for bankruptcy?

This is true..Who knows maybe a Six Flag UK is a untapped market that could get them out of bankruptcy
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#33 markop2003
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[QUOTE="LastLaugh90"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"] Get a Six Flags and then you wouldn't have to Worship a Royal Family

Worship the royal family???? WTF are you on about?

Lol i worded it a little nasty my bad...Still tho, get a Six Flags....

We do have a bunch of theme parks.... also i've never heard of anyone going to the US solely to go to six flags
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#34 LastLaugh90
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Worship the royal family???? WTF are you on about?

Lol i worded it a little nasty my bad...Still tho, get a Six Flags....

We do have a bunch of theme parks.... also i've never heard of anyone going to the US solely to go to six flags

Yeah but make it badass enough and you'll have all of europe and asia in your pocket...
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Having never had a conversation with or even having met her I really couldn't say whether I like her or not.

If you are asking whether I like the monarchy? It has pros and cons. I'm mostly against it.

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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Don't care, but I think the Royal Family is a liability. We pay a hell of a lot to keep them in our tax money. It far outweighs the money gained from tourism.Paladin_King
Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year.

Since you seem to have taken the position of defending the Queen in pitbull-like fashion,....what's with the intense love of the Queen? I'm not being critical here (differing opinions are differing opinions), I'm just curious.

Aside from bringing tens of billions of dollars into Britain each year, the Queen and members of the Royal Family have served to boost morale and unite their country. That's not just speaking for England. Canada was united under a Queen, and the present Queen has been in Canada to mark so many of our most important moments in history. She has been there with us all throughout our history, marking our achievements and finally giving us our independence. When has the Queen ever done any wrong to us? When has she ever been anything but gracious? I love England (though not the weather) and it would be extremely ungrateful to insult the Queen and her Royal Family. Honestly, people talk about them like they're tyrants that should be disposed of. It's shameful.
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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Care to show me the math for that? Tourism in Britain is nearly a $140 billion industry, largely driven by the appeal of the Royal Family and their quaint little houses and guards and artifacts and the museums cataloguing their history. Supporting the entire Royal Family costs each British taxpayer a mere $1 or $2 per year. clicketyclick
Since you seem to have taken the position of defending the Queen in pitbull-like fashion,....what's with the intense love of the Queen? I'm not being critical here (differing opinions are differing opinions), I'm just curious.

Aside from bringing tens of billions of dollars into Britain each year, the Queen and members of the Royal Family have served to boost morale and unite their country. That's not just speaking for England. Canada was united under a Queen, and the present Queen has been in Canada to mark so many of our most important moments in history. She has been there with us all throughout our history, marking our achievements and finally giving us our independence. When has the Queen ever done any wrong to us? When has she ever been anything but gracious? I love England (though not the weather) and it would be extremely ungrateful to insult the Queen and her Royal Family. Honestly, people talk about them like they're tyrants that should be disposed of. It's shameful.

I think a large amount of the grievance comes from the rather bizarre position the Queen sits in these days. You're right, the Royal Family does have historical, and hence touristic, value....but they also are figures of governmental power....but yet they're not really. I think that at some basic level, for me anyway, it's hard to blend a figure of government (Even one with practically little power) with a historical attraction. Also, I think a good part of the tyrant part may come from the postcolonial world, or diaspora even...though i may only be saying that due to my having spent far too much time in English Lit classes. That and I think that the influence of the US and its ideals of freedom loving democracy may make a constitutional monarchy appear a bit strange....which isn't particularly bright, admittedly.
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I don't really mind the Queen but I think it's because of her that the rest of the royal family has turned out like it has, back when she was younger she made decision and had some say like the ones before her.

She got so old though and didn't die (not sure how else to phrase that) that she couldn't really particpate in politics till it got to the point we're in now. And infact whenever a law is about to be issued it must go by the queen first but she can't say whether it goes through or not (worthless really).

If she had passed the torch earlier on I think the royal family would have more of a say but that doesn't change the fact a right A**hole would of taken over!!

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I've always liked her, myself. She kind of strikes me as that inoffensive kindly old grandmother who nobody really thinks ill of.

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#40 clicketyclick
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I think that at some basic level, for me anyway, it's hard to blend a figure of government (Even one with practically little power) with a historical attraction.Paladin_King

The Queen represents the history of our laws, politics, and democracy. Much of our legal system is derived from ancient British law, which is wrapped up in the history of the interaction between the British Monarchy and the Parliament. Our legal tradition comes from the proud British legal tradition, with its historical delicate balance of power between the monarch and the parliament and courts. And of course, our treaties and declarations and the way in which our political system is structured derives from that history as well.

There is nothing at all unnatural about a figure of government and a historical attraction when you consider that our entire political system owes so much to the historical legacy of the evolution of the democracy/constitution monarchy in Britain.

Also, I think a good part of the tyrant part may come from the postcolonial world, or diaspora even...though i may only be saying that due to my having spent far too much time in English Lit classes. That and I think that the influence of the US and its ideals of freedom loving democracy may make a constitutional monarchy appear a bit strange....which isn't particularly bright, admittedly.Paladin_King

One thing they don't teach you in Postcolonial Literature courses are the academic studies that have found that colonized islands - for all the human rights abuses that transpired - do much better today than the ones that weren't colonized. That's not a political statement. But it's important to realise that the relationship between the colonizing and colonized country wasn't wholly one-way. In any case, the present Queen can hardly be construed as a tyrant.

In fact, I'd say she goes beyond simple benignity. She sets an example of how to behave well. I will always remember the story of Queen Victoria hosting a lavish dinner party for foreign guests. One of the guests didn't know about finger-bowls used to just rinse off your fingers. Instead, he drank the finger-bowl. Everyone was just gawking at him, and probably genteelly tittering into their napkins. But Queen Victoria didn't want her guest to feel uncomfortable at her party, so she followed suit and drank her finger-bowl, and then of course since the Queen did it everyone at the table had to do so too! They don't teach manners like that at an etiquette school.

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I will always remember the story of Queen Victoria hosting a lavish dinner party for foreign guests. One of the guests didn't know about finger-bowls used to just rinse off your fingers. Instead, he drank the finger-bowl. Everyone was just gawking at him, and probably genteelly tittering into their napkins. But Queen Victoria didn't want her guest to feel uncomfortable at her party, so she followed suit and drank her finger-bowl, and then of course since the Queen did it everyone at the table had to do so too! They don't teach manners like that at an etiquette school.

clicketyclick

Hah, I'd actually never heard that before. That's a great story.

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[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]Well as a Canadian, it feels pretty damned stupid and pointless.Communist_Soul

Then who wouldbe on the 20 dollar bill?

Celine Dion of course.
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]Well as a Canadian, it feels pretty damned stupid and pointless.sonicare

Then who wouldbe on the 20 dollar bill?

Celine Dion of course.

Possibly the best argument there is in favor of keeping Her Majesty around. :P

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

Then who wouldbe on the 20 dollar bill?

Celine Dion of course.

Possibly the best argument there is in favor of keeping Her Majesty around. :P

LOL
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#45 gamedude2020
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On paper she is probably the most powerful person on earth. In theory she has the power to disband the British, New Zealand, canadian, andAustralian governments, and take control of the Commonwealth. But obviously in practice, she could never do that.

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#46 EvilSteveo
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I be fine with her as long as she does not get in my way and if she does trust me OT i will get my revenge like i will In the future on that She-Devil who was the prime minster of Britain , Who's name i do not say since it will bring evil to this thread.

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I think the monarchy represent an unfortunate elitism that is hard to reconcile with the sense of social equality that pervades modern thinking and legislation. However, having said that, I do believe the Queen symbolises a solidity, stability and durability which is missing from current social trends. Whilst she lives, I don't believe there will be much stomach for change amongst the educated citizens of her kingdom. Once Charlie boy takes over though, all bets are off.
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#48 gameeer1
Member since 2006 • 16425 Posts

No, don't really care for her, being in Canada and all.

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#49 -Absinthe-
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I love the Queen and the Royal family, I don't think we should lose the monarchy or any more of our culture, this is England, we should always have a King or Queen.

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#50 Buttmonkey9000
Member since 2005 • 2875 Posts
I don't really like or dislike the Royal Family... But I feel that it's pretty pointless in the modern world... I guess it's simply to keep with 'tradition' Plus, the Royal Family are always in the right-wing newspapers such as the Daily Mail; which runs a story or side-story on the Royal Family practically every day...