Former Canadian Defence Minister Discloses UFO Presence.

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#1 Lethargika
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CLIP

A very high official who actually reveals the presence of ET's. :shock:

I like to keep an open mind about this subject. What do you think about this? Very interesting, kinda scary at the same time.

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CLIP

A very high official who actually reveals the presence of ET's. :shock:

I like to keep an open mind about this subject. What do you think about this? Very interesting, kinda scary at the same time.

Lethargika
UFO's are 'real'. There's a lot of science and investigations behind the phenomena. But the credibility of that minister is ''limited'' as he couldn't have access to the infromation even in office. The way these things are compartmentalized makes it almost impossible for it to be 'disclosed'. Even if Obama wanted, he has no 'right' to access the blackest material. It's an old clip, if you want I can post videos of a more scientific nature.
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

CLIP

A very high official who actually reveals the presence of ET's. :shock:

I like to keep an open mind about this subject. What do you think about this? Very interesting, kinda scary at the same time.

_7h0m_
UFO's are 'real'. There's a lot of science and investigations behind the phenomena. But the credibility of that minister is ''limited'' as he couldn't have access to the infromation even in office. The way these things are compartmentalized makes it almost impossible for it to be 'disclosed'. Even if Obama wanted, he has no 'right' to access the blackest material. It's an old clip, if you want I can post videos of a more scientific nature.

please do:)
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

CLIP

A very high official who actually reveals the presence of ET's. :shock:

I like to keep an open mind about this subject. What do you think about this? Very interesting, kinda scary at the same time.

_7h0m_

UFO's are 'real'. There's a lot of science and investigations behind the phenomena. But the credibility of that minister is ''limited'' as he couldn't have access to the infromation even in office. The way these things are compartmentalized makes it almost impossible for it to be 'disclosed'. Even if Obama wanted, he has no 'right' to access the blackest material. It's an old clip, if you want I can post videos of a more scientific nature.

Sure thing, let's see em :)

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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"][QUOTE="Lethargika"]

CLIP

A very high official who actually reveals the presence of ET's. :shock:

I like to keep an open mind about this subject. What do you think about this? Very interesting, kinda scary at the same time.

connorisgreat93

UFO's are 'real'. There's a lot of science and investigations behind the phenomena. But the credibility of that minister is ''limited'' as he couldn't have access to the infromation even in office. The way these things are compartmentalized makes it almost impossible for it to be 'disclosed'. Even if Obama wanted, he has no 'right' to access the blackest material. It's an old clip, if you want I can post videos of a more scientific nature.

please do:)

You guys remember the spiral in Norway? Well, as a matter of fact Norway was REALLY hot regarding UFOs for the last 50 years. Here's the beginning of a doc about scientifics using military equipement to capture some of them:

Youtube

it's devided in 4 parts, it's a bit over the top, but they have a ton of footage. They can even categorize them. I have too many docs, point me in a direction... are isotopic tests of artifacts interesting you?

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its all good
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ET's are real. Its crazy to think otherwise. I mean there are billions upon biliions of stars and who knows how many planets are around each star.

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Here's a decent portion about the Belgium triangle... They sent F16s, they never came close.

link

Many say it's an american craft, using anti gravity.

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More and more of these objects are collected around the world:

link

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Woah, I'll be watching these videos you've linked, very interesting. Thanx

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Woah, I'll be watching these videos you've linked, very interesting. Thanx

Lethargika
np, it's good to have a headstart with this... so much BS around the web.
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reminds me of this link

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reminds me of this link

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yeah one of the best american ones.
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

Woah, I'll be watching these videos you've linked, very interesting. Thanx

_7h0m_

np, it's good to have a headstart with this... so much BS around the web.

Indeed, like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a UFO when it was a missile.

And Paul Hellyer, who in 2005 accused George Bush of plotting an intergalactic war.

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I saw 5 or 6 orange lights moving in the sky at 7:30pm today :o

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its a lie!

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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"][QUOTE="Lethargika"]

Woah, I'll be watching these videos you've linked, very interesting. Thanx

Theokhoth

np, it's good to have a headstart with this... so much BS around the web.

Indeed, like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a UFO when it was a missile.

And Paul Hellyer, who in 2005 accused George Bush of plotting an intergalactic war.

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="_7h0m_"]np, it's good to have a headstart with this... so much BS around the web.TheAbbeFaria

Indeed, like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a UFO when it was a missile.

And Paul Hellyer, who in 2005 accused George Bush of plotting an intergalactic war.

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Indeed, like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a UFO when it was a missile.

And Paul Hellyer, who in 2005 accused George Bush of plotting an intergalactic war.

Theokhoth

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

I have never seen such arrogance than from that first link you posted, sounds like a basement dweller to me.... and i find it highly ironic that people are using 3d simulations to debunk ufos now? never the less, i have my doubts about the 'spiral' and why it's been pushed so much in the media.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

_7h0m_

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

I have never seen such arrogance than from that first link you posted, sounds like a basement dweller to me.... and i find it highly ironic that people are using 3d simulations to debunk ufos now? never the less, i have my doubts about the 'spiral' and why it's been pushed so much in the media.

A basement dweller who uses facts and research with his claims, and the 3D models have been in place for a very long time to debunk baseless claims by simulating physics in tests that can't be done in real life (we can't just launch missiles whenever we want).

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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Indeed, like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a UFO when it was a missile.

And Paul Hellyer, who in 2005 accused George Bush of plotting an intergalactic war.

Theokhoth

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure you don't know either along with everyone else, including the conspiracy theorists. The links you provided only show a possible alternative to the other innumerable possible alternative, including that it was a UFO, in other words an Unidentified Flying Object, not necessarily ET.

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When did youtube become fair game for UFO evidence?
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

Or like the people who think the spiral above Norway was a missile when it was a UFO. . .

TheAbbeFaria

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure you don't know either along with everyone else, including the conspiracy theorists. The links you provided only show a possible alternative to the other innumerable possible alternative, including that it was a UFO, in other words an Unidentified Flying Object, not necessarily ET.

It was a missile.

This is a fact.

I know it to be a fact.

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When did youtube become fair game for UFO evidence?unholymight
well since you can post any video clip in existence on youtube.... you just have to dig deep.
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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

Theokhoth

I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure you don't know either along with everyone else, including the conspiracy theorists. The links you provided only show a possible alternative to the other innumerable possible alternative, including that it was a UFO, in other words an Unidentified Flying Object, not necessarily ET.

It was a missile.

This is a fact.

I know it to be a fact.

You might be interested in this clip:

link

i'm not assuming anything, but it looks like a close cousin - probably a missile. You should still keep an open mind with this... there's a station similar to haarp close by, if anything they could be trying to see if people can buy the missile theory ;) but i'm getting ahead of myself.

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It sounded like mostly Conspiracy Theory to me. :?

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It sounded like mostly Conspiracy Theory to me. :?

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I should stop posting in this thread... that clip the OP posted is kinda boggus, see my first post.
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It sounded like mostly Conspiracy Theory to me. :?

WeaponXY

Because that's what it was. Look up Hellyer; he's an absolute nutcase who publicly accused George W. Bush of attempting to wage an intergalactic war with aliens and he believes the UN is withholding alien technology that can solve global warming.

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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It was a missile. Such tests are done all the time.

Care to contradict physics?

Theokhoth

I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure you don't know either along with everyone else, including the conspiracy theorists. The links you provided only show a possible alternative to the other innumerable possible alternative, including that it was a UFO, in other words an Unidentified Flying Object, not necessarily ET.

It was a missile.

This is a fact.

I know it to be a fact.

It's interesting that the Russians admit that it was a missile, when before they denied it was a missile. Do you even know the actual physics that proves it was a missile, or are you just going by what a video on Youtube is telling you to be true?

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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"]

Here's a decent portion about the Belgium triangle... They sent F16s, they never came close.

link

Many say it's an american craft, using anti gravity.

If America does possess the UFO seen since the time of Roswell they are most likely of Nikola Tesla's design. Tesla had many designs and it was noted by those fortunate enough to have seen his actual notes before he died and the government took all of his work and classified it above top secret, that his ion propulsion craft resembled saucers or cigars in shape. Those are common UFO characteristics. Tesla died in 1943, UFO sightings picked up in the late 40s and early 50s. I think that was enough time for the US government to adapt his designs and theories into working craft. Tesla was awesome!
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[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="_7h0m_"]

Here's a decent portion about the Belgium triangle... They sent F16s, they never came close.

link

Many say it's an american craft, using anti gravity.

If America does possess the UFO seen since the time of Roswell they are most likely of Nikola Tesla's design. Tesla had many designs and it was noted by those fortunate enough to have seen his actual notes before he died and the government took all of his work and classified it above top secret, that his ion propulsion craft resembled saucers or cigars in shape. Those are common UFO characteristics. Tesla died in 1943, UFO sightings picked up in the late 40s and early 50s. I think that was enough time for the US government to adapt his designs and theories into working craft. Tesla was awesome!

want some links on the speculative science of it? Some people came forward with interesting information.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure you don't know either along with everyone else, including the conspiracy theorists. The links you provided only show a possible alternative to the other innumerable possible alternative, including that it was a UFO, in other words an Unidentified Flying Object, not necessarily ET.

TheAbbeFaria

It was a missile.

This is a fact.

I know it to be a fact.

It's interesting that the Russians admit that it was a missile, when before they denied it was a missile. Do you even know the actual physics that proves it was a missile, or are you just going by what a video on Youtube is telling you to be true?

Well, the fact that such phenomena has been demonstrated before--with missiles--tells me this is quite possible. Russia also reversed their statement almost immediately after denying it, particularly because it had been discovered that Russia had warned Norway of a missile test the week before.

Do you have any reason for me to doubt that it was a missile. . .at all, beyond doubting for the sake of doubting? If not, then I contend with 100% certainty that it was a failed missile launch from Russia.

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[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="_7h0m_"]

Here's a decent portion about the Belgium triangle... They sent F16s, they never came close.

link

Many say it's an american craft, using anti gravity.

_7h0m_

If America does possess the UFO seen since the time of Roswell they are most likely of Nikola Tesla's design. Tesla had many designs and it was noted by those fortunate enough to have seen his actual notes before he died and the government took all of his work and cIassified it above top secret, that his ion propulsion craft resembled saucers or cigars in shape. Those are common UFO characteristics. Tesla died in 1943, UFO sightings picked up in the late 40s and early 50s. I think that was enough time for the US government to adapt his designs and theories into working craft. Tesla was awesome!

want some links on the speculative science of it? Some people came forward with interesting information.

Here is an interesting start to learn about some of his more mysterious items. He claimed responsibility for the Tunguska Incident proposing that the beam of his Death Ray may have reflected off of the ionisphere. There are too many interesting things about him. Google Nikola Tesla and add one of these:

Death Ray

Earthquake Machine

Conspiracy

Anything that would eal with some mysterious and obscure. He may be the greatest scientific mind to ever grace our world. He could wirelessly transmit electricity 25 miles with 99% efficiency which is far more efficient than the wired systems we have today. The site I gave you says his ship designs were torpedo like, his designs evolved quite a bit from the things I've read. He theorized teleportation, force fields, and even time travel. He was one of the early 20th centuries biggest celebrities and most intelligent scientists and today he isn't even mentioned in themostscholarly texts or simple school textbooks. I also recommend looking into the fact that Russia was the one country interested in his death ray and that he may have sold them a series of designs.

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[QUOTE="_7h0m_"][QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="_7h0m_"]

Here's a decent portion about the Belgium triangle... They sent F16s, they never came close.

link

Many say it's an american craft, using anti gravity.

If America does possess the UFO seen since the time of Roswell they are most likely of Nikola Tesla's design. Tesla had many designs and it was noted by those fortunate enough to have seen his actual notes before he died and the government took all of his work and classified it above top secret, that his ion propulsion craft resembled saucers or cigars in shape. Those are common UFO characteristics. Tesla died in 1943, UFO sightings picked up in the late 40s and early 50s. I think that was enough time for the US government to adapt his designs and theories into working craft. Tesla was awesome!

want some links on the speculative science of it? Some people came forward with interesting information.

Oh my bad I thought you were asking for links. Also, I am interested in anything you have regarding Tesla.
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I have little doubt Aliens have visited and continue to visit this planet, and that the world Governments know of it.

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I have little doubt Aliens have visited and continue to visit this planet, and that the world Governments know of it.

Pixel-Pirate
Tesla claimed to have communicated with something that had not originated from our planet over his radio which he had inf act invented years before Marconi. Man I love Tesla.
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[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It was a missile.

This is a fact.

I know it to be a fact.

Theokhoth

It's interesting that the Russians admit that it was a missile, when before they denied it was a missile. Do you even know the actual physics that proves it was a missile, or are you just going by what a video on Youtube is telling you to be true?

Well, the fact that such phenomena has been demonstrated before--with missiles--tells me this is quite possible. Russia also reversed their statement almost immediately after denying it, particularly because it had been discovered that Russia had warned Norway of a missile test the week before.

Do you have any reason for me to doubt that it was a missile. . .at all, beyond doubting for the sake of doubting? If not, then I contend with 100% certainty that it was a failed missile launch from Russia.

How in the world can you know 100% that it was a missile? That's just pure nonsense. I kind of agree too that it was a missile after seeing the links you provided, but I still have reservations, and I'm not going to pretend that I just know "100% certainty that it was a missile."

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Paul Hellyer has been a joke in Canada for a long time.

Seriously, his heyday as a politician was 40-50 years ago.

Ever since he has been looking for way back into the limelight, with increasingly bizarre behaviour.

He is now 86 yrs old and is just a broken old fellow, long since deemed irrelevant, struggling to give his later years some meaning.

In other words, he is now just a full on nut job. Sad really.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

It's interesting that the Russians admit that it was a missile, when before they denied it was a missile. Do you even know the actual physics that proves it was a missile, or are you just going by what a video on Youtube is telling you to be true?

TheAbbeFaria

Well, the fact that such phenomena has been demonstrated before--with missiles--tells me this is quite possible. Russia also reversed their statement almost immediately after denying it, particularly because it had been discovered that Russia had warned Norway of a missile test the week before.

Do you have any reason for me to doubt that it was a missile. . .at all, beyond doubting for the sake of doubting? If not, then I contend with 100% certainty that it was a failed missile launch from Russia.

How in the world can you know 100% that it was a missile? That's just pure nonsense. I kind of agree too that it was a missile after seeing the links you provided, but I still have reservations, and I'm not going to pretend that I just know "100% certainty that it was a missile."

Russia says it was one of their missiles. Such phenomena have been observed in the past with missiles. Every reputable news source and many of the non-reputable news sources say missile. This event has not been repeated in Norway since it happened (if aliens were trying to communicate, wouldn't they try again after this first time failed?). Every single sign and scrap of evidence points to missile and nothing towards the contrary; therefore, I am 100% certain. I don't doubt for the sake of doubting; all that leads to is gullibility. If I'm wrong then whatever, it's happened before, but I have zero reason whatsoever to think such and so I will not think such.

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This is an interesting video..

but the impression I'm getting from it.. is that he's using a higher authority to draw attention to a specific concern of his.. and that is our self destruction. Choosing ET's to make this point is interesting.. he could have just as easily claimed to have witnessed a vision of God.. saying the same exact thing.. but instead he chose to use the authority of smarter beings.. very very interesting.

either way.. Whether it's true or not isn't all together important... because we'll never really know.

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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Eh...UFO just means they can't identify something. Does not necessarily mean ET.
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#42 Ringx55
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More and more of these objects are collected around the world:

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Wow, thats very interesting.... Sounds like that is indeed constructed for space and very complex.