FOX NEWS: Fair and Balanced

My mother and grandmother watch Fox News all the time. They especially enjoy Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Hannity.

Anyway, I asked my mother why Fox News labeled themselves as fair and balanced, and she said it was because they showed multiple points of view. She also mentioned that Fox News reports on what others are too afraid to acknowledge, and that their ratings are proof.

Now, I think Fox News, excluding Glenn Beck and Hannity, is more "fair and balanced" than MSNBC, which is so liberal that it is almost fanatical, but it still seems to be conservative with a conservative agenda. CNN seems to be somewhat moderate. Anyway, I get most of my news from iGoogle, which I have set up to show the latest headlines from all of the major news media outlets including the BBC.

What do you all think?

Uh, I'm gonna go with "nope.avi."

edit: seriously this is so incredibly stupid.

double edit: please to be having more pikachu please

FOX NEWS think of bloated selfish businessman, not of regular unselfish people.

lol at poll...14-0

i like cnn

I'm conservative, and Fox News has a conservative flavor, so I like it.

I imagine liberals prefer MSNBC, which seems to have a liberal flavor.

So, it depends on what your political leanings are.

Ugh, of coarse they're not fair and balanced.

Nope. I think news stations in China are probably more fair and balanced than FOX.

On its own its not balanced.. But it does balance out becauseevery other news outlit has an insane liberal bias.. its only fair that there is a station with a conservative bias.

I live in Australia and I've seen plenty of Youtube clips of Fox news. Reporting like that would be illegal here... it's unbelievable. News reporters aren't allowed to express their opinions, they just report the news - they don't sit and talk about it as seems to happen on Fox, it's just reported in a relatively neutral and unbiased way, and that's that.

I can't believe they were calling a man EVIL for telling children they were special and making them feel good about themselves. That's about as mentally insane as you can get.

Most American news is bullcrap. I remember a source for an assignment I did a month ago saying that The Daily Showwas actually more informative than "major" news broadcasts ...

I find the weather section to be quite balanced.Wilfred_Owen

I have always been under the impression that most people who care to formulate their own opinions and views realize that FOX NEWS is biased and presents the news with a conservative slant. In most of my journalism classes, FOX is usually the 1st example used when discussing biasness, not using objectivity, and framing stories to portray certain viewpoints.

[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]I find the weather section to be quite balanced.AutoPilotOn

The poll is more balanced than Fox News.

2 people votes yes, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck must be on the forums.

I find it annoying when people say that Fox News is the Republican arm for news. Like MSNBC isn't the Democrat arm for news...

I find it annoying when people say that Fox News is the Republican arm for news. Like MSNBC isn't the Democrat arm for news...

MathMattS

People do a lot of equivication with Fox and MSNBC, but there is a distinct difference: MSNBC, no matter how liberal, presents ACCURATE stories; Fox, on the other hand, misinforms and propogates distinct messages of fear (such as their saturation of the New Black Panther story, which amounts to 2 people. it is not a movement), uncertainty (spending is ruining the country, the question is where were all these fiscal conservatives when the Republicans had control?), and doubt (the dollar will fail, buy gold and 'food insurance'). There's also the hypocrisy, calling for small government (DADT, same-sex marriage, anti-choice issues INJECT government into privatedecisions)and fiscal conservatism (calling for an extension of the Bush Era Tax Cuts for the riches Americans without trying to pay for it) that many of it's pundits stake claims on.

On its own its not balanced.. But it does balance out becauseevery other news outlit has an insane liberal bias.. its only fair that there is a station with a conservative bias.

VendettaRed07

Can you tell me the liberal stations that photoshop the pictures of republicans or conservatives to make them look threatening, accidently put "R" infront of a democrat politicians name if they do something bad, lower or mute out applause at Palin rallies, and cut away footage of democrat rallies to bigger rallies to make them look bigger?

And CNN is not liberal biased. People who think that simply want a station that is conservative biased, not fair.

No Fox is very biased and it is a serious problem. Because it means other media groups who favor a little more liberal slant try to compete by being ultra liberal with their bias. Giving the average person two choices, an incorrecot ultra right wing fascist pov, or an ultra left wing commie point of view. The media should always strive to be impartial, worst case it should be swinging between left of center and right of center.Wiffle_Snuff

^ This.

Though, you forgot the all-important third option of fake news. =P

I find it annoying when people say that Fox News is the Republican arm for news. Like MSNBC isn't the Democrat arm for news...

MathMattS

People do a lot of equivication with Fox and MSNBC, but there is a distinct difference: MSNBC, no matter how liberal, presents ACCURATE stories; Fox, on the other hand, misinforms and propogates distinct messages of fear (such as their saturation of the New Black Panther story, which amounts to 2 people. it is not a movement), uncertainty (spending is ruining the country, the question is where were all these fiscal conservatives when the Republicans had control?), and doubt (the dollar will fail, buy gold and 'food insurance'). There's also the hypocrisy, calling for small government (DADT, same-sex marriage, anti-choice issues INJECT government into privatedecisions)and fiscal conservatism (calling for an extension of the Bush Era Tax Cuts for the riches Americans without trying to pay for it) that many of it's pundits stake claims on.

Ultimas_Blade

At least 3 people on OT have obviously never watched Fox News. Commander-Gree

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people are deluded about the obvious slants that FOX and MSNBC have.

They sort of balance out the liberal media all on their own.

Thats some thing....

My mother and grandmother watch Fox News all the time. They especially enjoy Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Hannity.

Anyway, I asked my mother why Fox News labeled themselves as fair and balanced, and she said it was because they showed multiple points of view. She also mentioned that Fox News reports on what others are too afraid to acknowledge, and that their ratings are proof.

Now, I think Fox News, excluding Glenn Beck and Hannity, is more "fair and balanced" than MSNBC, which is so liberal that it is almost fanatical, but it still seems to be conservative with a conservative agenda. CNN seems to be somewhat moderate. Anyway, I get most of my news from iGoogle, which I have set up to show the latest headlines from all of the major news media outlets including the BBC.

What do you all think?

Turtlecream

The ratings argument doesn't make sense.

FOX's ratings are so high because it fills a niche and it is the only one filling that niche whereas the more liberal leaning networks cannibalize eachother. FOX has the conservative audience all for itself whereas the more left-leaning networks have to compete with each other.

Also, (though this is conjecture) liberals may simply not be as interested in MSNBC punditry as conservatives are interesting in FOX punditry.

Third of all, MSNBC is the way it is because they tried to apply a liberal POV to the 'sensationalist ultra ideologically-flavored Fox model'. Only MSNBC sucks at it. MSNBC didn't use to be the way it is now.

Also, FOX is highly sensationalist, which always attracts viewers.

The notion that fair and balanced=higher ratings=laughable.

Don't they have a new slogan like "looking forward" or something?

Anyways, I noticed something funny today, Fox was adamant that the President and Stewart were too nonchalant yesterday, while MSNBC thought Stewart was being too unfair with his questioning.

That must mean the Daily Show is fair and balanced.

Fox is just like MSNBC, except MSNBC isn't making claims about being fair or balanced. Fox is hilariously biased, and makes for some great Daily Show/Colbert Report segments. wstfld

Not only that, but just from my time on political forums, it also seems that MSNBC viewers clearly know that it is biased as hell, whereas some viewers are FOX are hilariously deluded about how fair and balanced it is.

People do a lot of equivication with Fox and MSNBC, but there is a distinct difference: MSNBC, no matter how liberal, presents ACCURATE stories; Fox, on the other hand, misinforms and propogates distinct messages of fear (such as their saturation of the New Black Panther story, which amounts to 2 people. it is not a movement), uncertainty (spending is ruining the country, the question is where were all these fiscal conservatives when the Republicans had control?), and doubt (the dollar will fail, buy gold and 'food insurance'). There's also the hypocrisy, calling for small government (DADT, same-sex marriage, anti-choice issues INJECT government into privatedecisions)and fiscal conservatism (calling for an extension of the Bush Era Tax Cuts for the riches Americans without trying to pay for it) that many of it's pundits stake claims on.

Ultimas_Blade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_609iKgbu4

No spin right?

I can't stand any news media, but to be fair, Fox News is the only conservative outlet out there in the vast sea of liberal media, so there is a sense of "balance" among everything else. I'd rather get news from NPR or my local news.

They sort of balance out the liberal media all on their own.

Thats some thing....

Don't they have a new slogan like "looking forward" or something?

Anyways, I noticed something funny today, Fox was adamant that the President and Stewart were too nonchalant yesterday, while MSNBC thought Stewart was being too unfair with his questioning.

That must mean the Daily Show is fair and balanced.

topgunmv

I'm conservative, and Fox News has a conservative flavor, so I like it.

I imagine liberals prefer MSNBC, which seems to have a liberal flavor.

So, it depends on what your political leanings are.

MathMattS

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Don't they have a new slogan like "looking forward" or something?

Anyways, I noticed something funny today, Fox was adamant that the President and Stewart were too nonchalant yesterday, while MSNBC thought Stewart was being too unfair with his questioning.

That must mean the Daily Show is fair and balanced.

testfactor888

He didn't sugercoat anything after introductions were made.

He didn't go after Obama like an attack dog either though. I thought it was a nice balanced interview.

fox news leans more conservative because msnbc and cnn are clearly liberal. everyone loves to hate fox news but its the way America cycles if the democrats suck than its the republicans turn if they suck its the dems turn. its a turnstyle.xbox360isgr8t

CNN isn't liberal. It's the only balanced station out there.

[QUOTE="wstfld"]Fox is just like MSNBC, except MSNBC isn't making claims about being fair or balanced. Fox is hilariously biased, and makes for some great Daily Show/Colbert Report segments. GreySeal9

Not only that, but just from my time on political forums, it also seems that MSNBC viewers clearly know that it is biased as hell, whereas some viewers are FOX are hilariously deluded about how fair and balanced it is.

There do seem to be many unaware psychos watching Fox. Why the hell else would there Survival Seed Bank commercials and multiple gold buying scam advertisements? Are there really enough crazies(idiots) watching to actually create business for those advertisers?

You can tell a lot about viewers by what's advertised. Watching cartoons at 3AM on Comedy Central? I'm sure your going to hear steel drums and a Girls Gone Wild advertisement. Watching some random golf event? A ton of financial firms trying to sell advising services to rich country club members. Like watching a crazy bastard tell you about the death of America? Buy some seeds in case the world ends due to socialist Muslims, because non-hybrid seeds are worth more than gold in a non-economic disaster.

It's best to get news from a variety of sources, rather than just one. At least I think so.