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#51 tryagainlater
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I would probably feel better about my life if I believed the "friend zone" existed. But, I don't. Well, I don't believe it's like most of the people in this thread are saying. Women are willing to date you or they aren't. That opinion is subject to change though. I think guys have convinced themselves this friend zone exists to feel better about themselves and not have to face the fact that the girl just doesn't like them.

But hell, I'm not a woman and I'll never understand those creatures so this is probably all crap.

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#52 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]The friend zone causes you to see the futility of romance.foxhound_fox
Don't you mean, "...to see the futility of romancing someone uninterested in your advances." :question:

No, the whole thing is futile. There is no point.

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#53 Shadowchronicle
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]tl;dr The friend-zone is pretty much always the fault of the guy. They go into a relationship with a girl, expecting something more but never voicing that desire, and since the girl doesn't know, she just expects another friendship to blossom, and when those original feelings come to light, she doesn't want to destroy the friendship for them, or things just get weird and it all falls apart. And men do it to themselves. Trying to please a woman by changing yourself into everything she wants is the least successful way to start something more. If someone you like can't like you for who you are, they aren't worth the time. Then again, I learned this lesson through experience, and it really is the only way to learn it.

I agree with this statement. I've had this same experience from the outside after seeing two friends go through it.
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#54 martin101n
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I would probably feel better about my life if I believed the "friend zone" existed. But, I don't. Well, I don't believe it's like most of the people in this thread are saying. Women are willing to date you or they aren't. That opinion is subject to change though. I think guys have convinced themselves this friend zone exists to feel better about themselves and not have to face the fact that the girl just doesn't like them.

But hell, I'm not a woman and I'll never understand those creatures so this is probably all crap.

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well she did tell me she loved me, but i think its a bunch of shyt, or a stupid figure of speech, love has no meaning in today's vocabulary. And trust me friend zone has not made me feel better about myself.
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#55 martin101n
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well so far I concluded that, friendzone is impossible to destroy, there are few occasions that people managed to get out, but nobody ever has moved further then sexual interactions. I aslo think I didnt make my point clear, I don't just want to have sex with the girl I also want to be with her, share some time as a couple, as gay as it sounds.

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#56 foxhound_fox
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No, the whole thing is futile. There is no point.Bloodaxe726
What makes you so fatalistic? Did you express your feelings once or twice and get rejected? Resigning before even giving it a fair chance?
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#57 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]No, the whole thing is futile. There is no point.foxhound_fox
What makes you so fatalistic? Did you express your feelings once or twice and get rejected? Resigning before even giving it a fair chance?

We all go through life alone, regardless of how many people we surround ourselves with. Thus, romance, friendship, etc. All pointless.

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#58 foxhound_fox
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well so far I concluded that, friendzone is impossible to destroy, there are few occasions that people managed to get out, but nobody ever has moved further then sexual interactions. I aslo think I didnt make my point clear, I don't just want to have sex with the girl I also want to be with her, share some time as a couple, as gay as it sounds.martin101n
Your use of gay in a derogatory tense makes me believe you are very young and naive (probably not even close to finishing high school). Or more unfortunately, you have grown up, but not emotionally or behaviorally, and want to believe that your crush can develop into something more despite rejection. You need to stop denying the truth and just move on. Living in this fantasy world any longer will only hurt more chances you get in the future, especially when you start comparing potential partners to your pedestal-girl, rejecting THEM because you don't think they can compare to your "prefect" crush. Trust me, I (and probably most other adolescent males) went through this at some point or another. However, we chose to pick up our things (read: emotional investment and sanity) and move on, looking for a source of proper reciprocation. Many of us also found it.
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#59 topsemag55
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Dude, I think you blew any chance you had completely out of the water. It's over, move on.
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#60 Fightingfan
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This is why you friend zone them before they friend zone you.
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#61 foxhound_fox
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We all go through life alone, regardless of how many people we surround ourselves with. Thus, romance, friendship, etc. All pointless.Bloodaxe726
Spoken like a true pessimist. We CHOOSE to open ourselves to others in our lives, bringing out both our love and our vulnerabilities. Sometimes we get hurt, but those who can come to terms with the pain and struggle, and move on to bigger and better things will succeed, especially in love (sexual, romantic, platonic and familial). The problem is too many people walk into things with a set of predetermined desires, and are unwilling to change. Even more, people are unwilling become vulnerable to the other person enough to fall for them. I can already tell that your attitude stems directly from a bad experience. There is no other way such unadulterated fatalism could develop.
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#62 Lonelynight
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At least you have a friend.
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]We all go through life alone, regardless of how many people we surround ourselves with. Thus, romance, friendship, etc. All pointless.foxhound_fox
Spoken like a true pessimist. We CHOOSE to open ourselves to others in our lives, bringing out both our love and our vulnerabilities. Sometimes we get hurt, but those who can come to terms with the pain and struggle, and move on to bigger and better things will succeed, especially in love (sexual, romantic, platonic and familial). The problem is too many people walk into things with a set of predetermined desires, and are unwilling to change. Even more, people are unwilling become vulnerable to the other person enough to fall for them. I can already tell that your attitude stems directly from a bad experience. There is no other way such unadulterated fatalism could develop.

You can open up to another person, but they will never understand you.

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#64 foxhound_fox
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You can open up to another person, but they will never understand you.Bloodaxe726
They will understand you to the point you are willing to open up to them.
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#65 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]You can open up to another person, but they will never understand you.foxhound_fox
They will understand you to the point you are willing to open up to them.

No they won't, no two people react the same to what's happening, thus no two people understand each other.

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#66 MrsSolidSnake
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Whoever says you can't get out of the friend zone is a liar. I friend zoned my boyfriend before he was my boyfriend. With the right convincing and enough time to actually figure out if she likes you or not you can be un-friend zoned.

Though three years is a long time, move on. My boyfriend was friend zoned for no more than about a month.

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#67 worlock77
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Dudes: if you want a girl then don't be her friend. Seriously. Rarely will a girl consider a friend for a romantic interest. Friends should be friends. If you want a romantic relationship with a girl don't act like her friend hoping that it will one day lead inside her pants.

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#68 martin101n
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[QUOTE="martin101n"]well so far I concluded that, friendzone is impossible to destroy, there are few occasions that people managed to get out, but nobody ever has moved further then sexual interactions. I aslo think I didnt make my point clear, I don't just want to have sex with the girl I also want to be with her, share some time as a couple, as gay as it sounds.foxhound_fox
Your use of gay in a derogatory tense makes me believe you are very young and naive (probably not even close to finishing high school). Or more unfortunately, you have grown up, but not emotionally or behaviorally, and want to believe that your crush can develop into something more despite rejection. You need to stop denying the truth and just move on. Living in this fantasy world any longer will only hurt more chances you get in the future, especially when you start comparing potential partners to your pedestal-girl, rejecting THEM because you don't think they can compare to your "prefect" crush. Trust me, I (and probably most other adolescent males) went through this at some point or another. However, we chose to pick up our things (read: emotional investment and sanity) and move on, looking for a source of proper reciprocation. Many of us also found it.

I think you reach your conclusion on too brief of an examples, I've been out of high school for few years now, almost done with a college degree in social sciences. I didn't mean to use gay in derogatory way, but in a way that our current society accepts this words. As in fruity, not masculine, full of futile feelings.
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#69 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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i've been friend zone'd by so many girls it's not even funny :P

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#70 the_plan_man
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You can go from the friend zone to the "more" zone quite easily, imo.
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[QUOTE="silentexistence"]Sorry to say that given her response, you're probably not going to end up with her. Move on, man.martin101n

:< she's a fukyng dumb bytch, god there is no hope for me, its back to random sluts for a while.

I can see how much you must deeply care for her. TC are you actually seriously saying that no man is ever friends with a woman unless he actually wants to sleep with her? Unless she is fat, I'm assuming.
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I think you reach your conclusion on too brief of an examples, I've been out of high school for few years now, almost done with a college degree in social sciences. I didn't mean to use gay in derogatory way, but in a way that our current society accepts this words. As in fruity, not masculine, full of futile feelings. martin101n
See my point about "behavioral development." There is no acceptable way to use gay in that way. I remember when that terms was in vogue when I was in elementary school in the '90's, when homosexuality was still taboo and a thing of derision. I used it in the fashion you did because it was acceptable. Now we know better. Just because you are almost done college doesn't mean you still can be immature and inexperienced when dealing with the opposite sex. I know I was much the same as you until I was about 22. I developed unhealthy crushes, imaginary relationships with both real and fictional characters (a topic for another time) and tried my very hardest to do anything and everything to please any woman who would even give me the time of day. Then I came to the realization that I was in a quagmire of non-reciprocated feelings and idealized expectations, and pulled myself out just in time to meet my current girlfriend. Now we are living together, and are going on three years in April.
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#74 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="martin101n"]

[QUOTE="silentexistence"]Sorry to say that given her response, you're probably not going to end up with her. Move on, man.MissLibrarian

:< she's a fukyng dumb bytch, god there is no hope for me, its back to random sluts for a while.

I can see how much you must deeply care for her. TC are you actually seriously saying that no man is ever friends with a woman unless he actually wants to sleep with her? Unless she is fat, I'm assuming.

I actually think he might be right, every single one of my female friends is do-able.

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[QUOTE="martin101n"]I think you reach your conclusion on too brief of an examples, I've been out of high school for few years now, almost done with a college degree in social sciences. I didn't mean to use gay in derogatory way, but in a way that our current society accepts this words. As in fruity, not masculine, full of futile feelings. foxhound_fox
See my point about "behavioral development." There is no acceptable way to use gay in that way. I remember when that terms was in vogue when I was in elementary school in the '90's, when homosexuality was still taboo and a thing of derision. I used it in the fashion you did because it was acceptable. Now we know better. Just because you are almost done college doesn't mean you still can be immature and inexperienced when dealing with the opposite sex. I know I was much the same as you until I was about 22. I developed unhealthy crushes, imaginary relationships with both real and fictional characters (a topic for another time) and tried my very hardest to do anything and everything to please any woman who would even give me the time of day. Then I came to the realization that I was in a quagmire of non-reciprocated feelings and idealized expectations, and pulled myself out just in time to meet my current girlfriend. Now we are living together, and are going on three years in April.

Just because it happened for you, doesn't mean it can happen for everybody. You probably possess things about yourself that are beneficial that other people probably don't possess. In short, you lucked out.
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#78 Feryraiser
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My crush (who is two years older than me) said you're like a little brother to me. Its like 10 times worse than getting friend zoned. lonewolf604

^ That hapened to me too. Cept i dont like her anymore, cause i got friend zoned told her i liked her and no dice.

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#79 MgamerBD
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Don't know. I haven't been in the friendzone and if I do ever venture into it. I just move on to the next girl. For me its rare to be in the friendzone because TC you need to be more proactive. I can tell your a guy that doesn't take risks. Live a little TC. Flirt with her, look her in the eye, be rude a little. Don't be a bore. Also you waited 3 years for a chick? Really TC?! There are so much and better fish in the sea. You wasted your time, there is no one else to blame but yourself.
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#80 foxhound_fox
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Just because it happened for you, doesn't mean it can happen for everybody. You probably possess things about yourself that are beneficial that other people probably don't possess. In short, you lucked out.the_plan_man
I'm definitely not the "there is a person for everyone" kind of guy, but the idea that someone's desirability directly correlates to their confidence and love for themselves (not narcissistic love mind you), and that increases the chances of finding someone who finds this person's traits attractive is exponentially increased compared to someone who wallows in self-pity, and hides themselves away (literally, and emotionally) from other people. Go back through my post history. For years I was just expecting a woman to fall out of the sky and into my lap (figuratively speaking of course >_>), but until I actually made my realization, gathered up the confidence (a fairly gradual process that wasn't very obvious to me when it was happening) and went out into the world (with a few rejections) did I actually find someone who was able to love me for me, not their expectations of me (and vice versa). And that love developed over time, and wasn't this "magical" happenstance that was heralded by the heavens when I was born. I didn't luck out at all. It has been a very rough ride for us (I just met get mother a week ago for the first time ._.) and our hard work and persistence is what has kept us together. We are both extremely stubborn people, which brings us to odds very often... but when we do mesh, it is what we both want the most in life. Love is not something that finds you and always works... it is something that requires you to make yourself wholly vulnerable physically, mentally and emotionally and work very hard to keep it from dying. If there is no patience or compromise, it is doomed to fail. No matter how much you "want" it to work. "Luck" has nothing to do with it.
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#81 martin101n
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Don't know. I haven't been in the friendzone and if I do ever venture into it. I just move on to the next girl. For me its rare to be in the friendzone because TC you need to be more proactive. I can tell your a guy that doesn't take risks. Live a little TC. Flirt with her, look her in the eye, be rude a little. Don't be a bore. Also you waited 3 years for a chick? Really TC?! There are so much and better fish in the sea. You wasted your time, there is no one else to blame but yourself.MgamerBD
Thanks for the advice but I've already did that, I went abstinent form sex for a year, and hung out with her, didn't have the balls to talk to her, let her go for about 2 months and gave her the silent treatment, had a girlfriend for about 6 months, then I just partied and slept with promiscuous girls for another few months. The problem is I still have feelings for her, I lived I had fun, I fell in love (with a failure) and I still keep coming back, this isn't solely about sex, its mostly about a relationship, a closer one.
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#82 ad1x2
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I've been in the friends with benefits zone, does that count?
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#83 DJ-PRIME90
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Friend zone sucks. I've been there many times, never got out. Friend zone is only ok if you have no interest in the girl... but common, if shes hot... why would you want to be in the friend zone when you could be tryin to hit dat *** ;)
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#84 martin101n
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[QUOTE="martin101n"]

[QUOTE="silentexistence"]Sorry to say that given her response, you're probably not going to end up with her. Move on, man.MissLibrarian

:< she's a fukyng dumb bytch, god there is no hope for me, its back to random sluts for a while.

I can see how much you must deeply care for her. TC are you actually seriously saying that no man is ever friends with a woman unless he actually wants to sleep with her? Unless she is fat, I'm assuming.

My biased and totally nonfactual opinion assumed through my vast experiences of life, leads me to believe that SINGLE MEN are not interested in female friends, rather female acquaintances, in my definition a friend is not one of the people from your abundant Facebook friends list, its someone you truly trust and can rely on more then an average acquaintance, thus the meaning of a word GIRLfriend comes in a place, males and females are different, and I'll admit that through my permanent placement in the friend zone, I have also became to hate the sentences of girls saying that they rather be friends with guys then with girls because they don't back stab and are not as shady etc. US GUYS DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE FRIENDS WITH GIRLS< WE JUST WANT TO BANG YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE TIME, GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY, your not one of the guys, you never will be. Its nice to hang out with you from time to time but your NOT ONE OF THE GUYS
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#85 martin101n
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by the way the previous messsage is not directed towards you (MissLIbrarian), I just proof red it and realized it could be taken taht way

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#86 martin101n
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I've been in the friends with benefits zone, does that count?ad1x2
only if you needed commitment from it but only got sex out of it, other then that you were clear off the friend zone
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#87 martin101n
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If you buy her a sandal she will be yours forever.Crunchy_Nuts

And you know what if i get desperate enough ill try that.

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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"][QUOTE="martin101n"] :< she's a fukyng dumb bytch, god there is no hope for me, its back to random sluts for a while.martin101n
I can see how much you must deeply care for her. TC are you actually seriously saying that no man is ever friends with a woman unless he actually wants to sleep with her? Unless she is fat, I'm assuming.

My biased and totally nonfactual opinion assumed through my vast experiences of life, leads me to believe that SINGLE MEN are not interested in female friends, rather female acquaintances, in my definition a friend is not one of the people from your abundant Facebook friends list, its someone you truly trust and can rely on more then an average acquaintance, thus the meaning of a word GIRLfriend comes in a place, males and females are different, and I'll admit that through my permanent placement in the friend zone, I have also became to hate the sentences of girls saying that they rather be friends with guys then with girls because they don't back stab and are not as shady etc. US GUYS DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE FRIENDS WITH GIRLS< WE JUST WANT TO BANG YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE TIME, GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY, your not one of the guys, you never will be. Its nice to hang out with you from time to time but your NOT ONE OF THE GUYS

OK, OK, I get it.

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I have also became to hate the sentences of girls saying that they rather be friends with guys then with girls because they don't back stab and are not as shady etc. US GUYS DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE FRIENDS WITH GIRLS< WE JUST WANT TO BANG YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE TIME, GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY, your not one of the guys, you never will be. Its nice to hang out with you from time to time but your NOT ONE OF THE GUYS martin101n

Then don't act like the girl's friend if you just want to have sex with her. Not only is acting like her friend not going to get you into her pants, but it's also a dickish abuse of trust.

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#90 martin101n
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I don't only want to have sex, I want a relationship

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#91 worlock77
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I don't only want to have sex, I want a relationship

martin101n

Right, you want a relationship with this girl so much you act like her friend for three years, screw around with other girls, and then call her a "stupid b****" when she doesn't fall into your lap? Yeah, that's not really going to work.

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#92 martin101n
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[QUOTE="martin101n"]

I don't only want to have sex, I want a relationship

worlock77

Right, you want a relationship with this girl so much you act like her friend for three years, screw around with other girls, and then call her a "stupid b****" when she doesn't fall into your lap? Yeah, that's not really going to work.

at least i know what not to do now
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#93 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="martin101n"]

I don't only want to have sex, I want a relationship

martin101n

Right, you want a relationship with this girl so much you act like her friend for three years, screw around with other girls, and then call her a "stupid b****" when she doesn't fall into your lap? Yeah, that's not really going to work.

at least i know what not to do now

And knowing is half the battle!

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#94 martin101n
Member since 2004 • 431 Posts

[QUOTE="martin101n"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Right, you want a relationship with this girl so much you act like her friend for three years, screw around with other girls, and then call her a "stupid b****" when she doesn't fall into your lap? Yeah, that's not really going to work.

worlock77

at least i know what not to do now

And knowing is half the battle!

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#95 anthonycg
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If you like a girl you gotta let her know from the start. Sometimes they'll just think you're being "nice" and you just want to be friends. And they don't expect every guy that walks up to them to want to have sex with them... Some people actually have girls that are just friends...

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#96 super600  Moderator
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Dude!I wondering something can't you just be the girl's friend without thinking off wanting to be her girlfriend or wanting have sex with her or whatever else you're thinking of.You can still be nice to the girl, but not an insane amount. Every single time I make friends with a girl I don't think what you think.

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#97 Sora529
Member since 2006 • 3755 Posts

I truly feel your pain TC, I know how bad it can feel. You did the right thing by telling her how you feel, though. Sometimes you've just gotta be firm. I was friendzoned a while back, bad. I felt so comfortable around this girl, I felt like I could talk to her about anything, she had great taste in music, she could always make me laugh, and so on and so forth. She was dating this guy I met a couple of times, complete tool, she deserved so much better, but I felt like if I said anything I would come off as jealous (which I was), so I kept my mouth shut for a little over a year. Finally this thing was eating up so much of my life that I couldn't take it any more. I called her up to meet me somewhere and poured my heart out to her. To which she responded, "But you're my best friend, I just don't think of you that way". Worst feeling in the world. We had a huge fight and I don't think I left home for 2 weeks. I stopped talking with her because I couldn't take that she didn't like me back. But probably 7 or 8 months later a mutual friend said she broke up with her tool boyfriend and wanted to talk to me. We got coffee one day and she told me how much she missed my company, so I told her that I missed her too, but I couldn't only be her friend, and if she didn't feel the same way about me then it was best we stayed away from each other. We went on a date a couple of days later and now it's been almost 10 months and it feels great. Moral of the story is, it's not impossible to be un-friendzoned, but you have to be upfront about what you want. It's painful spending time together if you know you guys can't be together, so if she's not into it, no matter how horrible it seems at the time, you gotta let her go.

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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"]Just because it happened for you, doesn't mean it can happen for everybody. You probably possess things about yourself that are beneficial that other people probably don't possess. In short, you lucked out.foxhound_fox
I'm definitely not the "there is a person for everyone" kind of guy, but the idea that someone's desirability directly correlates to their confidence and love for themselves (not narcissistic love mind you), and that increases the chances of finding someone who finds this person's traits attractive is exponentially increased compared to someone who wallows in self-pity, and hides themselves away (literally, and emotionally) from other people. Go back through my post history. For years I was just expecting a woman to fall out of the sky and into my lap (figuratively speaking of course >_>), but until I actually made my realization, gathered up the confidence (a fairly gradual process that wasn't very obvious to me when it was happening) and went out into the world (with a few rejections) did I actually find someone who was able to love me for me, not their expectations of me (and vice versa). And that love developed over time, and wasn't this "magical" happenstance that was heralded by the heavens when I was born. I didn't luck out at all. It has been a very rough ride for us (I just met get mother a week ago for the first time ._.) and our hard work and persistence is what has kept us together. We are both extremely stubborn people, which brings us to odds very often... but when we do mesh, it is what we both want the most in life. Love is not something that finds you and always works... it is something that requires you to make yourself wholly vulnerable physically, mentally and emotionally and work very hard to keep it from dying. If there is no patience or compromise, it is doomed to fail. No matter how much you "want" it to work. "Luck" has nothing to do with it.

Maybe one day you'll learn to put that emotional **** behind you. You're not in high school anymore, and it sounds like this is the first EVER successful relationship you've ever been in. The way you talk, I'd think you were ***damn Dan in Real Life. Hopefully, one day that girl'll break up with you, just to watch you cry like a baby. :twisted:
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#99 Mafiree
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So, you acted like a friend to a girl for 3 years and all she wants to be is friends......
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#100 THE_DRUGGIE
Member since 2006 • 25110 Posts

I intentionally get friendzoned so I can watch them spiral down into oblivion through a series of abusive relationships.