G-20 Toronto and G-8 Huntsville discussion.

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

iginlawasup

[QUOTE="iginlawasup"]

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

Dylan_11

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="iginlawasup"]

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

Ice-Cube

The police are given too much power? There people setting cop cars on fire and breaking store windows and all the police are doing is keeping a perimeter.

Who cares if cops can search you? Got anything to hide?

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="iginlawasup"]

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

Ice-Cube

Some articles I read say 800 million plus and the news says a billion.

The government's admitting to $1.2 bn as of today. That's more than the operating budget for the GTA for an entire year. I think the whole thing's a sham. Part prok to finance minister Clement's riding, part massive payout to private security goonsquads that Harper and his cronies have close business ties with, and part fear on the part of the weasel scum private investment bankers who're really calling the shots for this farce. Burning cars is just stupidity. I suspect some has been instigated by agent provocateurs placed in the ranks of the protesters by the OPP or RCMP. They've both got a history of doing this in the past. It demonises legitimate dissent and allows the crooks in charge to justify the obscene expenditure for security at future meetings. The idiot public will believe every word and go back to watching soccer or somesuch.

$1 billion pricetag for G20 summit.

Weaselly little crook tries to justify $1 billion dollar security pricetag.

[QUOTE="Ice-Cube"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]Billions of dollars on security? Care to post a link confirming this?iginlawasup

Some articles I read say 800 million plus and the news says a billion.

[QUOTE="Ice-Cube"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]Billions of dollars on security? Care to post a link confirming this?downward_rail

The police are given too much power? There people setting cop cars on fire and breaking store windows and all the police are doing is keeping a perimeter.

Who cares if cops can search you? Got anything to hide?

urdead18

People are doing that because the cops have to much power and there mad, and I dont think I would like the cops going through my stuff, you can be arrested if you have a box cutter.

[QUOTE="iginlawasup"]

Thoughts?

I think the government spent way to much money on it, those are my tax dollars and the police are being given to much power. But I don't think the protesters should be setting cars on fire.

If you don't know what the problem is, the Canadian government spent a billion dollars on security. No other country holding these events have spent that much money. Stephan Harper has built a fake lake. The police have the right to search you on the streets of Toronto and there are lots of barricades. This is causing protests in both Huntsville and Toronto.

Dylan_11

And thats not counting the economic and property loss to Toronto residents and business men.

What a absolute waste of public money.

I'd feel bad for the G20 countries who don't get to go to the G8.

'Sweet, i got invited to an exclusive party!'

"Aw yeah me too, you going G8 right?"

"My invitation says G20?"

"...Oh.... awkward..."

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

The police are given too much power? There people setting cop cars on fire and breaking store windows and all the police are doing is keeping a perimeter.

Who cares if cops can search you? Got anything to hide?

iginlawasup

People are doing that because the cops have to much power and there mad, and I dont think I would like the cops going through my stuff, you can be arrested if you have a box cutter.

[QUOTE="bogaty"]

The government's admitting to $1.2 bn as of today. That's more than the operating budget for the GTA for an entire year. I think the whole thing's a sham. Part prok to finance minister Clement's riding, part massive payout to private security goonsquads that Harper and his cronies have close business ties with, and part fear on the part of the weasel scum private investment bankers who're really calling the shots for this farce. Burning cars is just stupidity. I suspect some has been instigated by agent provocateurs placed in the ranks of the protesters by the OPP or RCMP. They've both got a history of doing this in the past. It demonises legitimate dissent and allows the crooks in charge to justify the obscene expenditure for security at future meetings. The idiot public will believe every word and go back to watching soccer or somesuch.

$1 billion pricetag for G20 summit.

Weaselly little crook tries to justify $1 billion dollar security pricetag.

downward_rail

I'd feel bad for the G20 countries who don't get to go to the G8.

'Sweet, i got invited to an exclusive party!'

"Aw yeah me too, you going G8 right?"

"My invitation says G20?"

"...Oh.... awkward..."

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="iginlawasup"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

The police are given too much power? There people setting cop cars on fire and breaking store windows and all the police are doing is keeping a perimeter.

Who cares if cops can search you? Got anything to hide?

urdead18

People are doing that because the cops have to much power and there mad, and I dont think I would like the cops going through my stuff, you can be arrested if you have a box cutter.

My mum would be, she works at a grocery store and she has to open up boxes of meat with one.

I'd feel bad for the G20 countries who don't get to go to the G8.

'Sweet, i got invited to an exclusive party!'

"Aw yeah me too, you going G8 right?"

"My invitation says G20?"

"...Oh.... awkward..."

Ninja-Hippo

I was about an hour outside of Huntsville yesterday and the mosquitos are getting nasty up there. The G20 countries should be thanking the G8 for not inviting them. :P

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

I'd feel bad for the G20 countries who don't get to go to the G8.

'Sweet, i got invited to an exclusive party!'

"Aw yeah me too, you going G8 right?"

"My invitation says G20?"

"...Oh.... awkward..."

PBSnipes

I was about an hour outside of Huntsville yesterday and the mosquitos are getting nasty up there. The G20 countries should be thanking the G8 for not inviting them. :P

Thats why I have one of these!Id like to see Obama wearing one. Works great.

In roll the conspiracy theories about how Stephen Harper is really a British born American that was sent to Canada to dislodge the economy in America's favor and that all rich, political, or those who are cops are evil.

Wow, that is a lot of money spent solely on security.... I mean, I really doubt it's just for security...Ringx55

Most of it is.

In roll the conspiracy theories about how Stephen Harper is really a British born American that was sent to Canada to dislodge the economy in America's favor and that all rich, political, or those who are cops are evil.

FrostyPhantasm

Calling anything a conspiracy theory just because it doesn't fit in with your reality tunnel is pretty ridiculous. I can already see your limited view from accusing anybody who steps out of the left-right paradigm that they honestly believe every cop, political figure, and rich person are "evil". You really are of dualistic perception.

From what I've seen, the violent response of the "protesters" (read: sh__-disturbers) completely justifies the cost. Could you imagine if we had inadequate police response yesterday? Things could have gotten much, much worse.

From what I've seen, the violent response of the "protesters" (read: sh__-disturbers) completely justifies the cost. Could you imagine if we had inadequate police response yesterday? Things could have gotten much, much worse.

Emraldo

See? I told you in my previous post. The reactionary public who're spoon-fed fear and lies in 30 second sound-bites will now fully be on board with this theft of what is now reported as $1.7 billion of our treasury. If these crroks were really truly representative of the will of the majority, there would be no need for this kind of security.

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

From what I've seen, the violent response of the "protesters" (read: sh__-disturbers) completely justifies the cost. Could you imagine if we had inadequate police response yesterday? Things could have gotten much, much worse.

bogaty

See? I told you in my previous post. The reactionary public who're spoon-fed fear and lies in 30 second sound-bites will now fully be on board with this theft of what is now reported as $1.7 billion of our treasury. If these crroks were really truly representative of the will of the majority, there would be no need for this kind of security.

You'd better watch your tone buddy.

I have friends and family in Toronto who are endangered by these people you're defending. The only thing between them and martial law downtown is the police. Four police cars were set on fire yesterday.

Does that sound like peaceful protesters to you? The people who are getting all the media attention don't give a damn about the issues, they're just trying to incite a riot. Affect change through proper channels, not mob violence.

From what I've seen, the violent response of the "protesters" (read: sh__-disturbers) completely justifies the cost. Could you imagine if we had inadequate police response yesterday? Things could have gotten much, much worse.

Emraldo

Or, as I said earlier, instigated by the RCMP, CSIS, or the OPP. They have a history of doing just this sort of thing.

[QUOTE="downward_rail"][QUOTE="Ice-Cube"] I thought it was around 800 million but then again, maybe it's gotten to a billion.iginlawasup

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.
taj7575

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

taj7575

Huh? It's clearly been the other way around: mostly peaceful protest with a relative handful of *******s causing trouble.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

PBSnipes

Huh? It's clearly been the other way around: mostly peaceful protest with a relative handful of *******s causing trouble.

If they're not causing riots, they're doing something else that is annoying.

Pittsburgh was relatively peaceful for the most part, but a few incidents were pretty bad.

Watching the clips of the cops and the protesters is kinda entertaining. What a load of idiot protesters. They will not change anything.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

taj7575

Huh? It's clearly been the other way around: mostly peaceful protest with a relative handful of *******s causing trouble.

If they're not causing riots, they're doing something else that is annoying.

Pittsburgh was relatively peaceful for the most part, but a few incidents were pretty bad.

the amount of police at the pittsburgh conference was nothing compared to the Toronto protest. More people can also add more fuel to the fire.

To those who think that the vandals that are buring cars and breaking shop windows are trying to get a point across, can I come over and burn your car and break all the windows in your house or business to prove a point?

It is one thing to carry signs and have speeches and the like to protest something, but, to systematically destroy stuff, thus needing a bigger police presense than what is really needed is absurd and waters down or negates the reason for protesting. They are criminals and nothing more. Their acts are the whole reason why police have to search people. Why do you need a club or baseball bat to protest?

I will be around shortly to burn your cars.

I think the G8 and G20 were a complete waste of time and money. This could have all been accomplished using video conferencing. There is absolutely no point in meeting in various countries and wasting so much of our money which actually could have gone to somthing useful, not this silly, pointless meeting.

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

taj7575

I find what the protesters are doing is stupid setting police cars on fire breaking into stores and so on.I live right in Toronto and seeing that kinda crap on the news makes me wonder what people do for attention.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Thoughts? Most of those protestors are idiots who cause riots just to get attention.Some are pretty creative and pretty cool though.

I know because the G-20 was in Pittsburgh back in September.

carrot-cake

Anarchists? Yep.

I remember back when Pittsburgh G-20 was starting, Anarchists were going to take water guns with their own urine in it..:?

Hurrr lets destroy other peoples property to protest. I wish the police would just mow them all down. with an epic barrage of rubber bullets or live rounds. Every G-20,G-8 summit has this crap and I'm not exactly sure what these people are accomplishing except wasting tax money.

Hurrr lets destroy other peoples property to protest. I wish the police would just mow them all down. with an epic barrage of rubber bullets or live rounds. Every G-20,G-8 summit has this crap and I'm not exactly sure what these people are accomplishing except wasting tax money.

October_Tide

I love how people here just generalize like everyone was who protested was destroying property.

Hurrr lets destroy other peoples property to protest. I wish the police would just mow them all down. with an epic barrage of rubber bullets or live rounds. Every G-20,G-8 summit has this crap and I'm not exactly sure what these people are accomplishing except wasting tax money.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]

In roll the conspiracy theories about how Stephen Harper is really a British born American that was sent to Canada to dislodge the economy in America's favor and that all rich, political, or those who are cops are evil.

conspirethis

Calling anything a conspiracy theory just because it doesn't fit in with your reality tunnel is pretty ridiculous. I can already see your limited view from accusing anybody who steps out of the left-right paradigm that they honestly believe every cop, political figure, and rich person are "evil". You really are of dualistic perception.

Hardly. People live, People die, people wish to make legacies, legacies become undone. They "can't not" plug the hole because they haven't tried yet, it's all been BP because BP said they could handle it, and what persay would this triage of superpowers want to destroy some of their land and trades for? Why would they wish to dislodge the world economy? So that people like China and Russia can steamroll everyone when it comes down to 3rd party armies and proxies?

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

From what I've seen, the violent response of the "protesters" (read: sh__-disturbers) completely justifies the cost. Could you imagine if we had inadequate police response yesterday? Things could have gotten much, much worse.

conspirethis

beautiful to someone who sees what going on all the violence at g20 is started by undercover police provacitiers:

read!!! http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

Hurrr lets destroy other peoples property to protest. I wish the police would just mow them all down. with an epic barrage of rubber bullets or live rounds. Every G-20,G-8 summit has this crap and I'm not exactly sure what these people are accomplishing except wasting tax money.

October_Tide

u have to realize they use these events to justify more police and brutality, its the police fighting the undercover police acting as violent protesters to give the peaceful protesters a bad rap, then the people not smart enough to see this charade think its just a bunch of dumb hippies acting out, when they real thing they are doing is distracting u from what the g20 is really about world leader taking ur money and liberties away a little more year after year, and we keep drinking the kool-aide

Hurrr lets destroy other peoples property to protest. I wish the police would just mow them all down. with an epic barrage of rubber bullets or live rounds. Every G-20,G-8 summit has this crap and I'm not exactly sure what these people are accomplishing except wasting tax money.

October_Tide

u have to realize they use these events to justify more police and brutality, its the police fighting the undercover police acting as violent protesters to give the peaceful protesters a bad rap, then the people not smart enough to see this charade think its just a bunch of dumb hippies acting out, when they real thing they are doing is distracting u from what the g20 is really about world leader taking ur money and liberties away a little more year after year, and we keep drinking the kool-aide