Gallup Poll: McCain 48%, Obama 45%. USA Today Poll: McCain 54%, Obama 44%

A lot of people on here were saying how Obama is going to win because he was favored in the polls by 7 points. What do you have to say about this?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Edit: I guess I'll have to wait for all the high school kids who love Obama to get home from school before I get some responses...

What do you have to say about this?

The_Mac_Daddy

Um... 'well that's not good'?

it goes back and forth all the time, but that swing is a little unsettling, to be sure.

i'll be interested to see how it looks after the debate. i think that poll will be quite telling...

with McCain having the most recent convention he does have a slight advantage as his soundbytes are the freshest in people's minds... but the fact that Obama was at one time up by nearly 10 points and is now down by at least 3 should have Democrats ringing their collars at least a little bit.

Of course, as they say, the only important poll is the one that comes in a couple of months.

I'm surprised. You'd expect a bump in the polls in the aftermath of the convention, but I figured the numbers would've reverted back to where they were just prior to the DNC - a tie.

High school kids that love Obama can't vote, usually. So their opinion on this forum is pointless.DeerhunterIA

I've been saying that all along.. but they seem to disagree with me.

[QUOTE="DeerhunterIA"]High school kids that love Obama can't vote, usually. So their opinion on this forum is pointless.The_Mac_Daddy

I've been saying that all along.. but they seem to disagree with me.

What about me? I'm 28... oh but Canadian... yeah, nevermind.

Honestly, teen opinions do count for something because they often reflect the views of their parents.

So you could say that their opinions count twice as much.

looks like only the USA today pool has mccain really up. all the others are statistically insignificant.

I'd say that it's a tie at the moment and the USA today poll is probably an outlier.

I like how when Obama is slightly up in the polls it's a big deal or a victory. Then when McCain is killing Obama is nothing, and it's too early to judge the polls. Gotta love GS politics. :roll:Pirate700

I've seen PLENTY of Obama bashing topics, so please don't act like you're being overcome by Obama fanatics. Honestly this is just like system wars, everyone plays the underdog.

This was pretty much factored in by nearly everyone. Polls don't mean anything till about a week before the election, and even then they can be horribly wrong.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I like how when Obama is slightly up in the polls it's a big deal or a victory. Then when McCain is killing Obama is nothing, and it's too early to judge the polls. Gotta love GS politics. :roll:Sajo7

I've seen PLENTY of Obama bashing topics, so please don't act like you're being overcome by Obama fanatics. Honestly this is just like system wars, everyone plays the underdog.

I like how when Obama is slightly up in the polls it's a big deal or a victory. Then when McCain is killing Obama it is nothing, and it's too early to judge the polls. Gotta love GS politics. :roll:Pirate700

selective memory ftw.

Hopefully McCain can maintain that majority, as I actually prefer him to Obama. deepdreamer256

Wait till the debates, my friend. Conventions ALWAYS bring a boost in their respective parties.TenP

Yeah, but wouldn't the expectation be for McCain to simply negate the effects of the DNC boost for Obama (i.e. return poll numbers to where they were before the conventions)?

I just find it kind of funny how everybody was getting hype about Obama having that 7 point lead in the polls after the DNC... saying McCain wasn't going to win, just look at the poles, etc. And now that McCain has the lead in the polls, people are saying, well, you know, just wait till the debates.. and.. poles only matter a week before the election... and.. well both parties get a boost after their convention.

That's true, both parties do get a boost.. but McCain's boost was bigger, seeing how he was down 7 after the dnc, but before the rnc, and now after the rnc, he is ahead by 3. That's a 10 point swing.

Polls suck.SolidGame_basic

While far from perfect, they are the best metric we currently have for gauging the pulse of the nation. Ergo....polls do not suck. Unless you're talking about barber polls. Those, I hate.

That's true, both parties do get a boost.. but McCain's boost was bigger, seeing how he was down 7 after the dnc, but before the rnc, and now after the rnc, he is ahead by 3. That's a 10 point swing.

The_Mac_Daddy

I just find it kind of funny how everybody was getting hype about Obama having that 7 point lead in the polls after the DNC... saying McCain wasn't going to win, just look at the poles, etc. And now that McCain has the lead in the polls, people are saying, well, you know, just wait till the debates.. and.. poles only matter a week before the election... and.. well both parties get a boost after their convention.

That's true, both parties do get a boost.. but McCain's boost was bigger, seeing how he was down 7 after the dnc, but before the rnc, and now after the rnc, he is ahead by 3. That's a 10 point swing.

The_Mac_Daddy

Please don't use my comments to try and prove Obama supporters are hypocrites. I wasn't the one who got excited about post convention polls.

While far from perfect, they are the best metric we currently have for gauging the pulse of the nation. Ergo....polls do not suck. Unless you're talking about barber polls. Those, I hate.

3KindgomsRandy

Barber poles do indeed suck. You see those red and white stripes and think to yourself, "Holy ****! That's the biggest candy cane I've ever seen!" But then comes the disappointment...

This is MOSTLY due to people actually getting to know Obama and how ill prepared he is to lead out nation.adamatoms

and this is based on...? link, please.

once again, unless the poll actually asks that question, you can only guess the reasons people replied a certain way.

Perhaps they just like John McCain's haircut better.

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Polls suck.3KindgomsRandy

While far from perfect, they are the best metric we currently have for gauging the pulse of the nation. Ergo....polls do not suck. Unless you're talking about barber polls. Those, I hate.

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I just find it kind of funny how everybody was getting hype about Obama having that 7 point lead in the polls after the DNC... saying McCain wasn't going to win, just look at the poles, etc. And now that McCain has the lead in the polls, people are saying, well, you know, just wait till the debates.. and.. poles only matter a week before the election... and.. well both parties get a boost after their convention.

That's true, both parties do get a boost.. but McCain's boost was bigger, seeing how he was down 7 after the dnc, but before the rnc, and now after the rnc, he is ahead by 3. That's a 10 point swing.

The_Mac_Daddy

As a rock-solid Republican, I have to disagree with you. Regardless of the 10-11% McCain swing the true polls wont be known till the week of the election and maybe not even then.

As much as I enjoy seeing McCain ahead in the polls, what you just say proves that the polls are inconsistent. They jump greatly between candidates until shortly before the election.

Just wait until the debates.Theokhoth

I know. Obama is going to get CREAMED.

It's clearly obvious that all of the polls are wrong. They are all contrived by the GOP to show that McCain is ahead. No Americans like him. He is the antichrist for crying out loud!! The man is pure evil and, if elected, will only eat babies. Any news report or statistcal data saying McCain is out front is a clear sign that the GOP has managed to corrupt America and the political process.

If McCain were to ultimately win it would just go to show how inexorably wrong the entire US election process is and how we need to overturn the government because the Dems should win every election since they are clearly superior no matter what these so called 'polls' or 'elections' say.

It's just silly and ignorant to think otherwise.

Think I spread it a little thick with the whole 'baby eating' thing????

[QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Polls suck.SolidGame_basic

While far from perfect, they are the best metric we currently have for gauging the pulse of the nation. Ergo....polls do not suck. Unless you're talking about barber polls. Those, I hate.

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Why, thank you for the insightful discussion.

Barber poles do indeed suck. You see those red and white stripes and think to yourself, "Holy ****! That's the biggest candy cane I've ever seen!" But then comes the disappointment...Oleg_Huzwog

Smarmy teasing bastards...

It's clearly obvious that all of the polls are wrong. They are all contrived by the GOP to show that McCain is ahead. No Americans like him. He is the antichrist for crying out loud!! The man is pure evil and, if elected, will only eat babies. Any news report or statistcal data saying McCain is out front is a clear sign that the GOP has managed to corrupt America and the political process.

If McCain were to ultimately win it would just go to show how inexorably wrong the entire US election process is and how we need to overturn the government because the Dems should win every election since they are clearly superior no matter what these so called 'polls' or 'elections' say.

It's just silly and ignorant to think otherwise.

Think I spread it a little thick with the whole 'baby eating' thing????

marcus4hire

How is McCain winning in polls? Does America really want a 3rd bush term?Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]How is McCain winning in polls? Does America really want a 3rd bush term?Pirate700

I'm sure.

I mean what do I know right? American's are the ones who voted bush in -- complained -- yet, they gave him a second term.

[QUOTE="marcus4hire"]

It's clearly obvious that all of the polls are wrong. They are all contrived by the GOP to show that McCain is ahead. No Americans like him. He is the antichrist for crying out loud!! The man is pure evil and, if elected, will only eat babies. Any news report or statistcal data saying McCain is out front is a clear sign that the GOP has managed to corrupt America and the political process.

If McCain were to ultimately win it would just go to show how inexorably wrong the entire US election process is and how we need to overturn the government because the Dems should win every election since they are clearly superior no matter what these so called 'polls' or 'elections' say.

It's just silly and ignorant to think otherwise.

Think I spread it a little thick with the whole 'baby eating' thing????

Pirate700

Which is exactly what I was going for. Good deal.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

I just find it kind of funny how everybody was getting hype about Obama having that 7 point lead in the polls after the DNC... saying McCain wasn't going to win, just look at the poles, etc. And now that McCain has the lead in the polls, people are saying, well, you know, just wait till the debates.. and.. poles only matter a week before the election... and.. well both parties get a boost after their convention.

That's true, both parties do get a boost.. but McCain's boost was bigger, seeing how he was down 7 after the dnc, but before the rnc, and now after the rnc, he is ahead by 3. That's a 10 point swing.

hokies1313

As a rock-solid Republican, I have to disagree with you. Regardless of the 10-11% McCain swing the true polls wont be known till the week of the election and maybe not even then.

As much as I enjoy seeing McCain ahead in the polls, what you just say proves that the polls are inconsistent. They jump greatly between candidates until shortly before the election.

No, see, I actually agree with you. My point of this thread was basically to prove that polls don't mean all that much. The democrats early this past week were getting all hyped up that Obama had that 7 point lead. I was basically making this thread to rub it in the face of those getting excited last week.. they were counting their chickens before they hatched, and getting excited about nothing. We're basically back to where we were before the conventions, with McCain having a slight upper hand in the poles

[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]How is McCain winning in polls? Does America really want a 3rd bush term?Haziqonfire

I'm sure.

I mean what do I know right? American's are the ones who voted bush in -- complained -- yet, they gave him a second term.

[quote="Oleg_Huzwog"]Barber poles do indeed suck. You see those red and white stripes and think to yourself, "Holy ****! That's the biggest candy cane I've ever seen!" But then comes the disappointment...3KindgomsRandy

Smarmy teasing bastards...

It's a rather clever advertising scheme if you think about it. I can't count the number of times I've been drawn by promises of candy, learn the sad truth, and then say to myself "well, my hair IS getting a tad long".

Once again it needs to be said how pointless these polls are.

Just wait untill the debates when Mccain finally has to live down how TERRIBLE his policies are and watch what happens.

It's clearly obvious that all of the polls are wrong. They are all contrived by the GOP to show that McCain is ahead. No Americans like him. He is the antichrist for crying out loud!! The man is pure evil and, if elected, will only eat babies. Any news report or statistcal data saying McCain is out front is a clear sign that the GOP has managed to corrupt America and the political process.

If McCain were to ultimately win it would just go to show how inexorably wrong the entire US election process is and how we need to overturn the government because the Dems should win every election since they are clearly superior no matter what these so called 'polls' or 'elections' say.

It's just silly and ignorant to think otherwise.

Think I spread it a little thick with the whole 'baby eating' thing????

marcus4hire

I like McCain, he is not the anti-Christ and does not eat babies, he happens to be pro-life.

How is McCain winning in polls? Does America really want a 3rd bush term?Haziqonfire

You should probably stop using that argument, seeing as even Republicans, and Bush himself, regard McCain as someone that is not like Bush and will actually change the way Washington works and WILL get stuff done.

Yeah cause everyone who votes also participates in online polls :roll:GrandTheftHalo

The Gallup and USA Today polls aren't online. They're phone surveys of registered voters.