Gamespot Fired Jeff Gerstmann For Review

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#1 erglesmergle
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Yes I know this is very very old news. I never heard the truth and forgot about it until now. Did he really get fired for giving Kane and Lynch a bad score? Has he said anything?

Dont lock this thread. Unless theres no such thing as free speech here.

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#2 ProudLarry
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I don't think he ever confirmed that was the reason, but considering the circumstances, and other editors quitting because they believed that was what happened as well, its hard to say it was something else.

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#3 IcyToasters
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He has a new website.

But
[spoiler]  [/spoiler]
I don't think this thread is an advisable one

Edit: any second now..... annnnnyy seconnnddd...

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#4 8-Bitterness
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i didnt like jeff =/ and now on giantbomb he thinks hes the **** D:
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#5 ghoklebutter
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I don't care about Jeff anymore.
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#6 ElZilcho90
Member since 2006 • 6157 Posts
Haha this is ironic. I remember this whole "Gerstmann-gate" debacle going down shortly before I lost interest in posting here on Gamespot. Now that I decided to return from my unofficial hiatus, here's a thread evoking that whole episode.
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#7 enterawesome
Member since 2009 • 9477 Posts
Yep, that's 99% most likely what happened. Some of us call it 'Gertsmanngate'. Tragic day for GS reviewing, indeed.
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#8 194197844077667059316682358889
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What is this, the Late News?
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#9 msudude211
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[size=11]Why exactly do we need to bring this up again? [/size]:?
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#10 Gaming-Planet
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What is this, the Late News?xaos
I love that show!
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#11 Snipes_2
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I don't know, maybe. I personally loved Kane and Lynch to be honest, can't wait for the second one :D

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#12 Strider_91
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Yes I know this is very very old news. I never heard the truth and forgot about it until now. Did he really get fired for giving Kane and Lynch a bad score? Has he said anything?

Dont lock this thread. Unless theres no such thing as free speech here.

erglesmergle

:lol: Lock proof :lol:

But yeah i'm pretty sure that was why, after others leaving and so much going on..

He was always my favourite reviewer and shame left :( but hes at giantbomb now :)

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#14 scorch-62
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What is this, the Late News?xaos
This just in! The British are coming!
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#15 fmacraze
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hmm methinks
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#16 SpaceMoose
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He seems to have implied it on various occasions on the Giant Bombcast, such as allusions to some other magazine writer getting fired for something similar. There was sort of an audio "wink" there in the tone they used. I think he is legally prohibited from confirming it for whatever reason.

If you want more details, you might start here.

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#17 joao_22990
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Well, if it weren't for the Gerstmanngate Incident, Quick Looks would never be a reality. And that would be sad.
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#18 xTheExploited
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Its not the official reason but most people have pretty much agreed its because of the Kane and Lynch review.
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#19 DJ_Lae
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Yeah, Josh Larson destroyed a good chunk of Gamespot with that one move. Now we're left with Van'ord, Calvert, and Mechberg, which while awesome is a fraction of what Gamespot used to be.
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#20 Omni-Slash
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Yeah, Josh Larson destroyed a good chunk of Gamespot with that one move. Now we're left with Van'ord, Calvert, and Mechberg, which while awesome is a fraction of what Gamespot used to be.DJ_Lae
we have a winner....sadly I don't even read GS reviews anymore........the whole reason I started coming here...
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#21 194197844077667059316682358889
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At least they didn't use actual fore *shrug*
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#22 DJ_Lae
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Yeah, Josh Larson destroyed a good chunk of Gamespot with that one move. Now we're left with Van'ord, Calvert, and Mechberg, which while awesome is a fraction of what Gamespot used to be.Omni-Slash
we have a winner....sadly I don't even read GS reviews anymore........the whole reason I started coming here...

I don't read them either. I message Justin once in a while and catch what Kevin posts on Facebook but that's the extent of my Gamespotting. I just post on the forums now.
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#23 Omni-Slash
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I don't read them either. I message Justin once in a while and catch what Kevin posts on Facebook but that's the extent of my Gamespotting. I just post on the forums now.DJ_Lae
same here...I jsut can't bring myself to trust anything that's written here....I pretty much just hop from site to site when it comes to reading reviews......

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#24 taj7575
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Yeah, a lot points to the Kane and Lynch being the reason he got fired. He has his own website now though if you still want to read his reviews.

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#25 moonlightcharm6
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never heard of reviewer or game..next:P
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#26 lonewolf604
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i remember everyone hating Jeff because of the Twilight Princess review, then everyone sided with him when he got fired :roll:
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#27 DJ-Lafleur
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The only reason why I came here in the first place was for the forums, so the whole Jeff debacle didn't matter to me, and still doesn't.

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#28 Got_to_go
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Ah those were the days. Huge controversy in the forums when he was fired, then it simmered out. Then it Giant Bomb was announced, then it simmered out again. The Giant Bomb was completed and a bunch of users said they were leaving GS and never coming back. The forums here never took to big of a hit though. I always liked Jeff, and I like the features at Giant Bomb, especially Quick Looks. They have a more loosened up attitude than most sites. I don't bother with anything on Gamespot except for the forums.
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#29 CommanderShiro
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It hasn't been the same for Gamespot since he left. So much staff have left since then. Reviews and coverage just aren't the same.

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#30 MrLions
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Sigh.....soooo many 9's and 10's that shouldn't have been given :(
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#31 DJ_Lae
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i remember everyone hating Jeff because of the Twilight Princess review, then everyone sided with him when he got fired :roll:lonewolf604
I sided with him when he posted that, and I think people would be hard pressed to disagree with such a 'low' score now. Twilight Princess was not an excellent Zelda game.
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#32 SpaceMoose
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never heard of reviewer or game..next:Pmoonlightcharm6
After Rich Gallup left to go into game development, he was the host of the HotSpot podcast until he got fired. He was a more public figure than a typical game reviewer. Anyway, if you never heard of this incident, I think it's fair to say you probably don't keep up on video game news very much, or at least you didn't a couple years ago.
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#33 TheNewEraIcon
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Jeff? I haven't heard of him... Lol Also i didn't know Gamespot employees were on a payroll:shock:

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#34 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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kane and Lynch wasn't as bad as he made it out to be..

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#35 -Apathy-
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Wow, it is really cOLD outside. I hope the weather lightens.
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#36 Brutal_Elitegs
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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]i remember everyone hating Jeff because of the Twilight Princess review, then everyone sided with him when he got fired :roll:DJ_Lae
I sided with him when he posted that, and I think people would be hard pressed to disagree with such a 'low' score now. Twilight Princess was not an excellent Zelda game.

On a totally Jeff-unrelated point, I remember when Kasavin gave Halo 2 a score of 9.4 and system wars went NUTS because it didn't at least get a 9.8. You can even see in the video review how Kasavin is trying to paint over the glaring flaws of the single player with the multiplayer aspect as not to induce furious anger from the 'anyone-who-thought-Halo 2-would-be-the-gaming-equivalent-of-the-second-coming-of-Jesus' community. To be perfectly honest, a 9.4 (at the time) was perfectly fair, and in my opinion way too fair. In my eyes Bungie has never regained whatever it is that made Halo: CE great (save the uninspired level design at times). It looks like they're trying to remedy that with Reach though, which incidentally is the only Halo based game since my immense hype for Halo 2 that I'm actually looking forward to.

I went way off tangent there...

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#37 IcyToasters
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[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

He has a new website.

But

I don't think this thread is an advisable one

garrett_duffman

in before the lock to make you look like a fool because its not locked yet lol


Yet, darn you!
It'll come!
It's just a really slow gate!

I just lunged through a little early.

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#38 akbar13
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Most of all of the good reviewers for gamespot left. Now all we got left is Vanord *shutters*

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#39 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

He has a new website.

But

I don't think this thread is an advisable one

IcyToasters

in before the lock to make you look like a fool because its not locked yet lol


Yet, darn you!
It'll come!
It's just a really slow gate!

I just lunged through a little early.

lol well i'll sit here and wait for the next bus, there will be others. now, me and lieutenant dan were shrimp boat captains...

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#40 Samurai_Xavier
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Most of all of the good reviewers for gamespot left. Now all we got left is Vanord *shutters*

akbar13

Lol, are you saying that because he is homosexual?

And yeah, Jeff Gertsmann has hinted heavily that it was because of the Kane and Lynch review. He never actually confirmed it though.

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#41 EVOLV3
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Jeff was cool and everything, but the one I truly miss is Rich Gallup. Button Mashing was the best.

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#42 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

in before the lock to make you look like a fool because its not locked yet lol


Yet, darn you!
It'll come!
It's just a really slow gate!

I just lunged through a little early.

lol well i'll sit here and wait for the next bus, there will be others. now, me and lieutenant dan were shrimp boat captains...

You want a chocolate? :P
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#43 KHfanboy2
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This just in... A meteorite killed the dinosaurs! Tons of horrible news today!

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#44 JustPlainLucas
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Unless theres no such thing as free speech here.

erglesmergle
Umm.. no, this is a privately owned and operated forum, so there is no free speech here. If GS wants to lock this thread, they reserve the right. Sorry, it just annoys me whenever someone tries to invoke the first amendment. Anyway, in my mind, Jeff most certainly got fired over his review. Eidos wasn't happy that they poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into GS for advertisement only to have Jeff come out and say the game was average. We'll never be given an official answer, unfortunately.
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#45 DJ_Lae
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Jeff was cool and everything, but the one I truly miss is Rich Gallup. Button Mashing was the best.

EVOLV3

Button? MASHING!

God I miss Rich's pimp outfit.

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#46 akbar13
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[QUOTE="akbar13"]

Most of all of the good reviewers for gamespot left. Now all we got left is Vanord *shutters*

Samurai_Xavier

Lol, are you saying that because he is homosexual?

And yeah, Jeff Gertsmann has hinted heavily that it was because of the Kane and Lynch review. He never actually confirmed it though.

He is gay Lol! But I really do not like him.
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#47 Fuhgeddabouditt
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The game was missing chainsaws.
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#49 JustPlainLucas
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GiantBomb was an awesome site with awesome people that I loved to post on for the first few months. Then the mods got power hungry and just started screwing over the Off-Topic forum for no good reason. People complain about GS mods, but at least they know off-topic forms are for just that: off-topic. They don't care if we have a WAYLT thread or Roll Call or whatever. GiantBomb apparently does.dreDREb13
My guess is because the mods didn't want their forums reflecting ours.
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#50 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I suspect that the review was the final straw. I think Jeff and the GS management at the time had several ongoing issues.