Gamespot is anti-christian?

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Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...PannicAtack
Pick axe, I think. =P
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[A very specific one? No.

Its not an oxymoron. Just as a literary analyst can have a valid interpretation of a poem without being the poet themselves (not an an absolutely fitting analogy but I think it works). One may interpret the Bible purely from a literary analysis' scope. Even if their religious affilliation affects them we dont if that leads them the wrong way or the right way. It is possible that a non Christian can get past some positive prejudices of a Christian and see the text more clearly.

Some people may agree with him because they like him and because they hate the people he debates against. But you cant claim that all do so for that reason.

And yes of course that like or dislike may affect our predisposition, it is not necessarily the decisive factor.

Teenaged

A literary analyst cannot be a valid interpreter if they don't understand the language, culture, syntax etc. You cannot use mere literarly analysis to interprete the Bible (or other works) if you do not understand context and culture. It won't be a valid interpretation.

I've seen people make points against him that are skipped over by others because they want to believe him. OT is very much about popularity.

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#403 tekken220
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...why am I still going to a board full of people who hate me?
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...why am I still going to a board full of people who hate me?tekken220
I want specific names of those that hate you.....
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#405 scorch-62
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...why am I still going to a board full of people who hate me?tekken220
People hate you?
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#406 super_mario_128
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Bah it seems I missed my opportunity to read the contents of the group. Ah well. >:
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Bah it seems I missed my opportunity to read the contents of the group. Ah well. >:super_mario_128
I missed it too.....but if BR tries to engage me in a discussion I have something on him now.:lol:

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[A very specific one? No.

Its not an oxymoron. Just as a literary analyst can have a valid interpretation of a poem without being the poet themselves (not an an absolutely fitting analogy but I think it works). One may interpret the Bible purely from a literary analysis' scope. Even if their religious affilliation affects them we dont if that leads them the wrong way or the right way. It is possible that a non Christian can get past some positive prejudices of a Christian and see the text more clearly.

Some people may agree with him because they like him and because they hate the people he debates against. But you cant claim that all do so for that reason.

And yes of course that like or dislike may affect our predisposition, it is not necessarily the decisive factor.

LJS9502_basic

A literary analyst cannot be a valid interpreter if they don't understand the language, culture, syntax etc. You cannot use mere literarly analysis to interprete the Bible (or other works) if you do not understand context and culture. It won't be a valid interpretation.

I've seen people make points against him that are skipped over by others because they want to believe him. OT is very much about popularity.

A literary analysis can take all those factors you mention in consideration. In fact literary analysis has to do directly with language, syntax, context and any other linguistic element. As for culture and other extra-linguistic components, a literary analyst can most certainly extend his study by encompassing them as well.

Besides those factors are not related to whether or not the interpreter is Christian so I dont know why you bring them up. This doesnt have to do with your criterion of religious status (Christian or not Christian).

Yes, some people may have skipped points against him. That doesnt mean they discarded them just because they like him; perhaps the points were idiotic. And yes perhaps some of those people may indeed have discarded them for that reason. Does that say anything about Gabu being eligible to comment on the Bible or to characterise all of OT? That would be a gross generalisation.

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A literary analysis can take all those factors you mention in consideration. In fact literary analysis has to do directly with language, syntax, context and any other linguistic element. As for culture and other extra-linguistic components, a literary analyst can most certainly extend his study by encompassing them as well.

Besides those factors are not related to whether or not the interpreter is Christian so I dont know why you bring them up. This doesnt have to do with your criterion of religious status (Christian or not Christian).

Yes, some people may have skipped points against him. That doesnt mean they discarded them just because they like him; perhaps the points were idiotic. And yes perhaps some of those people may indeed have discarded them for that reason. Does that say anything about Gabu being eligible to comment on the Bible or to characterise all of OT? That would be a gross generalisation.

Teenaged

Can...but doesn't mean they do.;)

I'd hardly give weight to points that I felt weren't valid. I was speaking of valid points.

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#410 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]Bah it seems I missed my opportunity to read the contents of the group. Ah well. >:

If anyone is curious, I managed to find a few more cached pages:

Main Page (also in McJugga's)

Discussions

Links

Post #1 (also in McJugga's)

Post #2

Post #3

Post #4

GabuEx
There are a few.
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#411 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

A literary analysis can take all those factors you mention in consideration. In fact literary analysis has to do directly with language, syntax, context and any other linguistic element. As for culture and other extra-linguistic components, a literary analyst can most certainly extend his study by encompassing them as well.

Besides those factors are not related to whether or not the interpreter is Christian so I dont know why you bring them up. This doesnt have to do with your criterion of religious status (Christian or not Christian).

Yes, some people may have skipped points against him. That doesnt mean they discarded them just because they like him; perhaps the points were idiotic. And yes perhaps some of those people may indeed have discarded them for that reason. Does that say anything about Gabu being eligible to comment on the Bible or to characterise all of OT? That would be a gross generalisation.

LJS9502_basic

Can...but doesn't mean they do.;)

I'd hardly give weight to points that I felt weren't valid. I was speaking of valid points.

But thats what I said. They can. Therefore the possibility remains.

You were speaking of valid points yes but as you also said 'you felt they werent valid'. Thats not much of a refutation or something that places great amounts of doubt on the abilities of the interpreter at hand.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

A literary analysis can take all those factors you mention in consideration. In fact literary analysis has to do directly with language, syntax, context and any other linguistic element. As for culture and other extra-linguistic components, a literary analyst can most certainly extend his study by encompassing them as well.

Besides those factors are not related to whether or not the interpreter is Christian so I dont know why you bring them up. This doesnt have to do with your criterion of religious status (Christian or not Christian).

Yes, some people may have skipped points against him. That doesnt mean they discarded them just because they like him; perhaps the points were idiotic. And yes perhaps some of those people may indeed have discarded them for that reason. Does that say anything about Gabu being eligible to comment on the Bible or to characterise all of OT? That would be a gross generalisation.

Teenaged

Can...but doesn't mean they do.;)

I'd hardly give weight to points that I felt weren't valid. I was speaking of valid points.

But thats what I said. They can. Therefore the possibility remains.

You were speaking of valid points yes but as you also said 'you felt they werent valid'. Thats not much of a refutation or something that places great amounts of doubt on the abilities of the interpreter at hand.

And I never omitted that possibility. I made a list of other things that would be involved in interpreting a literary work. So why argue if you are agreeing with my initial statement?
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Anyway T....to which ever thread you read first...I'm off for the day. Have somewhere to go. Argue...er chat with you another day.
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#414 Teenaged
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And I never omitted that possibility. I made a list of other things that would be involved in interpreting a literary work. So why argue if you are agreeing with my initial statement?LJS9502_basic
Um, you are actually the one that are arguing for something I already supported. I never made a statement that one who is a non Christian and is just a literary analyst will most definitely find the right interpretation. I said that there is a possibility; a point against which you argued.

[...] How can one be non Christian and yet have an interpretation of Scripture that was valid? That is an oxymoron. [...]LJS9502_basic

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#415 Dylan_11
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...why am I still going to a board full of people who hate me?tekken220
Apparently to keep saying people hate you when they don't.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...scorch-62
Pick axe, I think. =P

Sure, why not?
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...PannicAtack
Pick axe, I think. =P

Sure, why not?

Are we talking about a hammer and sickle?
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#418 KittenNipples
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The internet is anti-christian...
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#419 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Communism has never been so adorable.

PannicAtack

Chocobo is a communist?

Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...

Hm, it would be more probable if he were holding a hammer and a sickle. But perhaps he doesnt want to make it obvious...

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Pick axe, I think. =P

Sure, why not?

Are we talking about a hammer and sickle?

Not really.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Chocobo is a communist?

Teenaged

Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...

Hm, it would be more probable if he were holding a hammer and a sickle. But perhaps he doesnt want to make it obvious...

It's like Glenn Beck told me - it's a stealth-commie. An absolutely adorable stealth-commie.
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#422 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...

PannicAtack

Hm, it would be more probable if he were holding a hammer and a sickle. But perhaps he doesnt want to make it obvious...

It's like Glenn Beck told me - it's a stealth-commie. An absolutely adorable stealth-commie.

Hmmmmm, subliminal messages..... I get it.... replace hammer and sickle with different agriculture-related tool.....switch the colours a bit......

Thats what I call hastily concealed propaganda!

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#423 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Sure, why not?

Are we talking about a hammer and sickle?

Not really.

It looks like a hoe to me.
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#424 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] Are we talking about a hammer and sickle?

Not really.

It looks like a hoe to me.

Yeah, hoe makes sense. Moral degredation and all that.
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#425 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Communism has never been so adorable.

Chocobo is a communist?

Well, it's got the, uhh... worker. With the wheat. And that farm tool thingy...

I think its called a Hoe............or hand plough? I one of the 2.
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#426 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Sure, why not?

Are we talking about a hammer and sickle?

Not really.

The "communist tools" are a hammer and sickle. The tool in the chocobo poster looks more like a pick axe than anything. Maybe an awkwardly drawn hoe.
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#427 Theokhoth
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How'd this topic turn from a Christian extremist Facebook group into whether or not the tools of a chocobo symbolize communism?
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#428 GabuEx
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How'd this topic turn from a Christian extremist Facebook group into whether or not the tools of a chocobo symbolize communism?Theokhoth

I guess I'm that awesome. :oops:

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#429 scorch-62
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How'd this topic turn from a Christian extremist Facebook group into whether or not the tools of a chocobo symbolize communism?Theokhoth
Your lover showed us his Gabu poster.
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#430 lordreaven
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How'd this topic turn from a Christian extremist Facebook group into whether or not the tools of a chocobo symbolize communism?Theokhoth
Casue Gabu has mind control. Gawd man, don't you know anything about Gabu.
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OK, I couldn't resist:

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OK, I couldn't resist:

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Amazing ;)

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OK, I couldn't resist:

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Heil Gabu! Heil Gabu!

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OK, I couldn't resist:

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Hahaha! :lol: nice job :P

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OK, I couldn't resist:GabuEx
That is brilliant! :lol:
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#436 Duxsox56
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As over-dramatized as that group is, it does have a point that Christianity, or religion in general, is largely opposed here on gamespot.

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#437 Mousetaches
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MaObama - that's a new one.

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I remember someone on the forums calling him that. I think it was BR but I don't exactly remember
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OK, I couldn't resist:

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Wow certainly the most entertaining Religion thread I've visited in quite awhile :P. Hail to the Gabu.

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OK, I couldn't resist:

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That's awesome. :lol:

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#440 Acemaster27
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Let us not forget that Christianity functions best under oppressive circumstances. Although the idea of users becoming "martyrs" is a much less emotional idea when when applied to the virtual realm
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OK, I couldn't resist:

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GabuEx

this is certainly more fun than discussion religion:wink:

btw Hail Gabu

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#442 SkylinePigeon
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As a Gamespot mod, my day isn't complete until I've been a tool of Satan! They sure nailed that one. I LOVELOVELOVELOVE the group image pic more than anything I've seen on the internet in years. :lol:
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#443 SteveTabernacle
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A website not having the rules set up to allow religion to go unchallenged and get a free pass on everything does not mean it is anti-religion. Their beliefs not being able to stand up under scrutiny doesn't mean they are being oppressed, it means they suck at debating. All I can say to those people is this, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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#444 bigbang13oz
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i love it!!! god said there is a time to hate! why not on ot.
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#445 Toriko42
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:lol:

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This should be the new website logo

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#446 Adrianstalker
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Just to prove my point about republicans... :P