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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Yeah and heavy metal about killing people, suicide, etc etc.. Makes white people look bad.. EMOEVOLUTIONGood point. Lets go back to 80's music. Excellent suggestion.
I think it says more about our society, rather than black people. Im sure most people would love to get away from that life style if they were given more chances
What lifestyle are you referring to first of all......and second there is always a choice. Education is free until college and grants/loans are available for college or technical school.I think it says more about our society, rather than black people. Im sure most people would love to get away from that life style if they were given more chances
Democratik
[QUOTE="Democratik"]What lifestyle are you referring to first of all......and second there is always a choice. Education is free until college and grants/loans are available for college or technical school. Im referring to the lifestyle they often talk about in gangster rap. Which would be.... the life of the gangster. as far as what u said after that... im having this discussion in other threads. i dont need to be checking three.I think it says more about our society, rather than black people. Im sure most people would love to get away from that life style if they were given more chances
LJS9502_basic
Im referring to the lifestyle they often talk about in gangster rap. Which would be.... the life of the gangster. as far as what u said after that... im having this discussion in other threads. i dont need to be checking three. DemocratikIf you don't have a reply that's cool. But I'm in this thread and not the others.:D
If you don't have a reply that's cool. But I'm in this thread and not the others.:D[QUOTE="Democratik"] Im referring to the lifestyle they often talk about in gangster rap. Which would be.... the life of the gangster. as far as what u said after that... im having this discussion in other threads. i dont need to be checking three. LJS9502_basic
i don't think that's true at all. not from what i have noticed. if anything, i see them using it more. maybe they are trying to get other races to stop saying it, but as far as black people go, i don't see them not using it any time in the near future. i only see it becoming more used.you can tell that the african americans as a race are trying to get rap stars to stop saying the N word
so in terms the black people that are rapping are making THEMSLEVES look bad
but to the rest of the black community noGC4ever
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Yeah and heavy metal about killing people, suicide, etc etc.. Makes white people look bad.. LJS9502_basicGood point. Lets go back to 80's music. Excellent suggestion. Haha. I know you were joking, but there were some really good bands back in those days, too. And The Cure is really underrated. :)
Yes, for the most part, it does make blacks look bad, and I'm not the least bit prejudice. Its a move for the race in a bad direction.
Old-school rap was much less violent yet just as true, much more positive in scope.
Also, the most violent death metal makes white people look bad, just a rotten influence.
because there are tfour general types of people who buy "gangsta rap," if thats the term you want to apply to the genre in question.
1. People born in the actual hood, who connect to the themes and struggles represented by true to roots gangsta rap.
2. People born outside of the hood in residential areas, but feel they need to prove themselves to their culture.
3. White/Non-african people looking for rebellion
4. And of course, people just looking for a good listen who aren't really considering a sociopolitic or socioeconomic viewpoint or value.Of course, you also need to clarify what you consider "gangsta rap." Gangsta Rap is a genre that is meant to be gritty, urban, and violent.
A good example of this is NWA or groups like them. Modern contemporary rap (i.e. Lil' Wayne, T.I., Kanye) may have some similar themes such as violence and drugs, but these artists are not a part of this genre and are instead a subgenre.
Think of it like Rock -> Alternative ---or--- Metal -> Black MetalFloodedstreet
Somebody said Gangter Rap enforces stereotypes, but if you believe in Stereotypes in the first place that's a bigger problem than the music.
[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]
I'm black, and no it doesn't
- Gangster Rap is long dead, it died in the 90's after 2Pac died, and Snoop and Dre calmed down. Easy E died, and afterwards we got left with Eminem, Jay-Z, and others
- Eminem is not gangster rap, since he doesn't really talk about gang related subjects, his raps range from political, drugs(mostly using), girls, his mom, and wild tangents of funny stuff. Not gangsta
- Easy E, NWA, Ice Tea, Ice Cube, Dre, Snoop, Too Short(early) Pac, Biggie, Gangsta rap
- Gucci Mane, Plies, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, 40 Glocc, and many others of this rap era = not gangsta rap, they're drug rappers
- Gucci Mane and his crew are clowns, most of the South are clowns AND THATS MY OPINION, only Ludacris, Lil Wayen(mostly early), Outkast, UGK, and a few others I really care about, Oh yeah I'm not gonna forget Killa Mike
- N.W.A if you look back had positive messages, and at one point I believe they said don't take that **** seriously.
Like I said, 50, The Game, G Unit goons, South Goons, are not Gangsta rap. Gangsta rap died in the 90's, now you just have clowns
Some hip-hop fans can be hella dumb, they down other forms of music, and then they do what rappers say they do in songs, I doubt Jay-Z is robbing people anymore, and I doubt half of them are doing what they say, mostly the ones that made it, and YES even underground rappers. Rappers are simply story tellers, they tell it like a book, and if you take a book seriously do what it says you'll fin your self imitating wrong things.
I hate rap, despite the fact that I listen to hit, I remember Lupe Fiasco saying something along those lines in one of his songs, and many new "rappers" are saying "I'm not a rapper, I'm and artist" I think Kid Cudi said that, and other rappers who bash "The game" and seem like Anti-Rappers. Hip-Hop is still my first choice form of music. But yes I still hate it, I hate alternative rock also, but I still listent to it.
Lilyanne46
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I think you two should look at the TC's posting history before responding anymore. I don't really think you'll get anywhere.
I don't think rap makes black people look bad at all. It's just music a form of art in which some people express themselves. I love rap/hip hop. I also don't see how heavy metal makes white people look bad. I think people with too much time on their hands are the reason people find things to link to make other people look bad.
That's flawed logic. That's like saying "The courts enforce unjust laws, but if you abide by them then you're a bigger problem than the laws themselves."Somebody said Gangter Rap enforces stereotypes, but if you believe in Stereotypes in the first place that's a bigger problem than the music.
Ace_WondersX
[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]That's flawed logic. That's like saying "The courts enforce unjust laws, but if you abide by them then you're a bigger problem than the laws themselves."Somebody said Gangter Rap enforces stereotypes, but if you believe in Stereotypes in the first place that's a bigger problem than the music.
Johnny-n-Roger
That makes sense?
If the court enforces an unjust laws, it's your job to work to have the laws changed whether through the proper passages or civil disobedience. Other wise you can't complain about the unjust laws.
No it doesn't. Whenever I see black people who aren't acting like thugs I don't go
"Wow, its a shame these people are so bad because of gangster rap and all"
Also, thats possibly EXTREMELY racist. In fact, it IS extremely racist. Your basically saying all black people are bad. Maybe you don't mean it like that but... you still said it.music has nothing to do with it. black people make black people look bad.
neo_starwind
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