Gene Hackman and wife found dead at home

Sad....

Yea. He was pretty old, assuming it was a double suicide.

Betsy Arakawa wasn't very old. :(

Not sure about the dog..

Wife was a good 30 years younger.

No foul play? CO?

Pretty nuts. Still early, but double-suicide is what I read is suspected?

Damn, RIP to them all. Gene Hackman was one of the greats.

No sympathy for whoever killed the dog.

I thought no foul play was suspected. Probably carbon monoxide.

Who murdered the dog, or are you just leaping to a meritless conclusion?

Pretty sure this was accidental carbon monoxide poisoning.

Very sad news. R.I.P.

Read the entire conversation and don't come in at the end not knowing what's going on but forming an opinion.

You did not answer my question.

There is not much of a conversation. One of you speculate suicide and the other said no sympathy for who murdered a dog. Only difference between you two: Bojangles said it's speculation whereas you spoke as if there was a matter of fact.

So, again, what merits are we talking about?

I'm not going to answer your question. Either follow a conversation or don't. I don't teach reading comprehension. I replied to a comment, not the first one here, that mentioned double suicide. The dog didn't commit suicide.

@LJS9502_basic: Pompous douche, lol.

Unsurprising coming from you.

Not my fault you don't understand what you're reading. I don't particularly respect you so I'm not going to placate you.

You are a cold, bitter person, so no offense taken. Lol

You seem to be the miserable one wanting to start arguments. You started with me. I generally ignore you.

I asked you a simple question: what merits did you come to that conclusion? That was not an argument, I wanted clarity in what made you come to that conclusion and whether or not is was based on any merit.

Then you responded like the Pompous douche you usually are: "read the two-word "conversation" and then "I don't respect you so I'm not going to engage. "

It's cute really, and I hope one day you become a little more self-aware.

RIP

@jaydan: You sure want attention. Sorry you get ignored dude.

That's ironic. Lol

Anyway, you came into an RIP thread blazing no sympathize for something based off no merit.

Continued the douchebaggery with your responses towards me, and then blame me for your own BS.

Anyhow, I'm not going to let this continue to detract from what should have been the nature of this thread over your douchebaggery, so others have a chance to express their feelings or pay their respects.

Gene Hackman was a legend, and one of the greats. I know this death has hit a lot of people and let them have their moment.

Cry harder. Maybe the internet isn't for you if you can't handle other people's opinions.

So from what i've been reading pills where spilt, and one the dogs was found dead a fair distance from them, door open, radiator moved, other dog fine.

Odd stuff. Originally claimed gas, but it seems like it's not that.

Wait and see I guess.

I suppose. Still hope no one hurt the dog intentionally.

He was very old, 95, could be a sad case of his mind going whack.

Sounds from the situation at least that they decided to check out on their own terms.

No disagreements there, I admire those who take initiative in their ends when they feel they‘ve done enough in the world and are left with nothing much more to look forward to than the detriments of old age.

RIP.

If true, I am going to agree. Hopefully the pooch died because the owners were dead but isn't there something about two other dogs being alive? I wonder if the dog ate some type of medication since the police said a spilled bottle of medication was near the woman.

Possibly. You could be right and it was an accident. Cheers.

@Solaryellow: Obviously the surviving dog killed them both and the other dog.

Yes, father died of motor neuron disease and mother cancer (not cancer itself infection) gurgling water for days on end, where everyone just sits around unpleasantly waiting for the inevitable.

Whenever have to put my dogs down, and did so with two recently, people mistake me as being cold because typically get it over and done with and don't go through all the drama.

But it's the case above seeing parents slowly die been hammered in that the dogs are actually very lucky in the sense a simple needle, without really knowing what is going on prevents suffering and sends them off fast.

In reality many humans do not have this.

@jaydan: Nah, pretty sure Kyle Rittenhouse shot the dog.

Very strange what happened to him and his wife and dog.

Little Bill, no...

Two alive dogs were found on their property apparently, they were found outside the home

Yeah, it sucks, and is totally depressing to witness.

My father passed in Nov, and his last six-eight months were a decline into sheer misery. Not just for him, but for everyone. When he was still able to speak, he was constantly expressing a desire to go, asking if there were pills to stop his heart, etc. Hospital stay after hospital stay. Then he languished in hospice for about a week, delirious, rambling nonsense, looking like a corpse awaiting the formality. My mother is now in the ravages of advanced dementia, and don't even get me started on what an indignity that entails. I hate to say it, but I don't doubt, had she the choice if she could be aware enough to know the situation she's currently in, that she'd decide to depart in a heartbeat.

Pets definitely do have it better. There's no reason we should keep people ready to die alive just because of the "sanctity" of human life or whatever. Rubbish. There comes a point where it's nothing but pain and misery and a drain on everyone else.....and at that point, there is no point. My father was practically begging, and he had to wither away until his body gave up the ghost. I miss the dude, but his passing was ultimately a relief to all.

Not sure that a suicide pact was the circumstances here, but if so, there's nothing wrong with that. Hope they're both at peace.

Read in my national news article that the maintenance worker who discovered their bodies found the home’s front door ajar but no signs of forced entry. Gene was found in the kitchen and Arakawa and the dog were found in the bathroom with pills from a prescription bottle scattered on the counter. Both appeared to have fallen suddenly to the floor but neither showed signs of blunt force trauma.

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Man, hearing the doggo deceased in the kennel/crate is so sad. I only hope it wasn't from starvation. :(

Report came out saying both died of natural causes. Huh.

Apparently the wife croaked and Gene (who had Alzheimer’s) died from neglect as I’m understanding it? I’m surprised that they didn’t have daily caretakers, they weren’t discovered for like a week. Dementia is in no way an easy condition to care for, it’s literally a full-time job, unless he was just minor slipping and not too advanced. Sad. RIP to both.

Still would like to know why an open bottle of pills was found next to them, though.

I imagine the lack of wellness checks or home care probably stemmed from Arakawa being significantly younger than Hackman and thinking (correctly, I am sure) she could take care of him. The only factor not accounted for is if she died suddenly.

That is quite literally a nightmare scenario on how to die.

Imagine your wife dies and you discover her body. Only you have Alzheimer's, so you are incapable of functioning at a proper level and don't alert the authorities. And you keep rediscovering your wife's body day after day, hour after hour, because you forget due to the dementia, causing you untold amounts of heartache and stress until eventually you collapse and die as well.

To you, your wife has died more than once. Only you don't remember. Each time a tragedy, each time causing a reaction. I've discovered the body of a loved one before, I literally heard my heart beating in my ears. I can see this causing a cardiovascular episode in a 90+ year old man.

As for the pills, maybe Gene or Arakawa tried to get to their medication during a health crisis and spilled the bottle? I don't know. I'm not saying it's suspicious, just sort of an unknown.

Shit icing on the shit cake, if that's what happened. Not to be indelicate, but that just takes a nightmare scenario to like Greek tragedy levels of terribleness.

I'm not one to fawn over celebrities or mourn them any more than your average joe, but this is just a really tragic situation.

Pretty awful situation.

My 86 yr old dad passed away last fall from cancer, but he also had very advanced dementia. In the last year or so he did not know who anyone was Including myself or my sister. He recognized my mom, but not as his wife. He was completely incapable of understanding or doing anything. Nothing. Not even urination or bowel movements. My mom changed his diapers like a baby.

I tried to get my 85 yr old mom to move him to long term care or hospice but she couldn't bring herself to do it. Instead she tried to be his caretaker. It was an epic mess. We were so afraid that he would drag my mom down in a serious fall...or something. But they had been together for 65 years so she could not let go.

Afterwards I struggled with conflicting emotions. So sad that my dad was gone. So glad that my dad was gone...so that my mom might live.

Dementia is a terrible thing. You don't get to say proper goodbyes.

I chose to post this because I understand exactly how this could have happened. Gene was long gone. She could not let go. Her own health suffered. Heart attack. Game over for both.

It looks like his wife and caretaker died of Hantavirus. He was 95 years old with dementia and couldn't take care of himself or the dog... what a terrible situation.

Does the daughter want to change her story that he was in good health?

How do you folks (you two, for mentioning it, but also everyone on here) feel about assisted suicide?

I know it's a touchy subject, but I feel like it should be an option. Obviously there should be regulations and safeguards--are you in pain, are you suffering from dementia, are you having a mental health episode and need a cooldown period, etc--but I think it is a pretty noble option when you get down to it.

I don't believe there is any dignity is suffering (ironically the diehard devout think there is, but Jesus suffered so we didn't have to, it should be noted) and it is definitely not great for family and friends to see one's last days as suffering when there were decades of vibrant life and joy before those last moments of terror and agony.

And ultimately I feel like this: we don't get to choose how we enter the world, but we should get a choice how we leave it.

My dad is quite old and while in good health for his age, I've been debating having this conversation with him. The thing is, my mom is super sentimental and while she might logically support the idea of assisted suicide, it might come down to "I support it, just not for my husband because that's different".

I think love can blind you in many ways. Family is sometimes not the best source of information, not because of malice, but just inability to think clearly.

I'll be honest: I've never met anyone (me included) who thought someone, a family member, with dementia (progressed into Alzheimer's) was healthy. Emotions can definitely skew ones' vision and considering one girl claimed she hadn't spoken with her father in months, perhaps she didn't grasp the severity of the situation?