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#1 Makemap
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I was searching the website, and some people say Georgia attacked Russia First.

I don't think Bush should join the War, only if Russia expands farther than Georgia.

Anyways i found this video, The American News failed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OgvroUa3Eg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5uidyv5OU

Read Article first:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7546639.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7548715.stm

I rather get the news closer to the place than farther, Go EU News.

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Who says that?
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#3 Anti-Venom
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Who says that? LJS9502_basic

I do

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#4 vidplayer8
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Russia already backed off from what I heard.
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#5 Flotsam
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They did. they got pwned. End of story. And don't lusson to the first poster.
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#6 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Who says that? Anti-Venom

I do

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Fine...but you were wrong. Now /thread.
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#7 Flotsam
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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Who says that? LJS9502_basic

I do

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Fine...but you were wrong. Now /thread.

No, your wrong, he is right.

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#8 mlbslugger86
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well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck first
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well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstmlbslugger86

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstMakemap

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

well...the thought of a small country like georgia going against the russian army is a little crazy...

seriously, its like david going against Goliath

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#11 LJS9502_basic
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No, your wrong, he is right.

Flotsam
Well I'm not...but thanks for asking.
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstmlbslugger86

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

well...the thought of a small country like georgia going against the russian army is a little crazy...

seriously, its like david going against Goliath

Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.
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#14 UnknownSniper65
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No one knows who attacked first...everyone is saying different things...that news report you posted doesn't prove anything at all. Russian Soldiers may not have actually attacked Georgia but Separatists may have.

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#15 mlbslugger86
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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"][QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstmuscleserge

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

well...the thought of a small country like georgia going against the russian army is a little crazy...

seriously, its like david going against Goliath

Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.

yup there kinda dumb if you ask me....they woke up the slumbering russian bear...

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#16 LJS9502_basic
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Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.muscleserge
Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|
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#17 Flotsam
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No one knows who attacked first...everyone is saying different things...that news report you posted doesn't prove anything at all. Russian Soldiers may not have actually attacked Georgia but Separatists may have.

UnknownSniper65

Georgia attacked South Osetia first and thats the fact.

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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstMakemap

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

umm that showed them attacking South-Ossetia

Which is a part of Georgia, that wanted to revolt and leave Georgia. So russia stepped in which they shouldn't have done.

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#19 LJS9502_basic
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No one knows who attacked first...everyone is saying different things...that news report you posted doesn't prove anything at all. Russian Soldiers may not have actually attacked Georgia but Separatists may have.

UnknownSniper65
According to what I read from the BBC...the separtists attacked Georgia. Georgia retaliated. Russia stepped in. Just looking for an excuse to control the oil there undoubtedly.
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#20 StealthKing93
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Georgia attacked Russia first. I hope Russia defeats Georgia!
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I think we're all winners.
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#22 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

No one knows who attacked first...everyone is saying different things...that news report you posted doesn't prove anything at all. Russian Soldiers may not have actually attacked Georgia but Separatists may have.

Flotsam

Georgia attacked South Osetia first and thats the fact.

That's not a fact. And for the last time Sout Ossetia is PART OF GEORGIA. Not Russia.:roll:
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#23 Flotsam
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.LJS9502_basic
Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.Flotsam

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

technically it still is, revolutionaries were trying to separate that's why the georgian army showed up, then russia went poking around and started attacking then it ecellated, Georgia did nothing wrong, same thing happen in the American revolution North army dispatched to stop the south army from separating. it just took a much longer time.

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#25 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

No one knows who attacked first...everyone is saying different things...that news report you posted doesn't prove anything at all. Russian Soldiers may not have actually attacked Georgia but Separatists may have.

Flotsam

Georgia attacked South Osetia first and thats the fact.

Were you there?

Didn't think so.

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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Georgia attacked Russia first. I hope Russia defeats Georgia!StealthKing93
Really? Which part of RUSSIA did they hit?
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.LJS9502_basic
Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Just like Kosovo is a part of Serbia right? or is it different when you have the support of the west?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.Flotsam

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

Actually it still is.:lol:
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#29 LJS9502_basic
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Just like Kosovo is a part of Serbia right? or is it different when you have the support of the west?muscleserge
What are you on about? SO is not it's own nation..it's part of Georgia. :|
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[QUOTE="Flotsam"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.ferrari2001

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

technically it still is, revolutionaries were trying to separate that's why the georgian army showed up, then russia went poking around and started attacking then it ecellated, Georgia did nothing wrong, same thing happen in the American revolution North army dispatched to stop the south army from separating. it just took a much longer time.

Except 90% of South Osetians are Russian citizens and somewhere in between their 10 Russian peace-keepers got killed, but that isn't anything important right?
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]well..to be honest its kinda hard to believe either side....seeing as the territory is contested and one side is saying the other one struck firstferrari2001

This work for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UEDqJONww&feature=related

umm that showed them attacking South-Ossetia

Which is a part of Georgia, that wanted to revolt and leave Georgia. So russia stepped in which they shouldn't have done.

How about tihis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5uidyv5OU

It's annoying at first but, 2:19 - end is the real News.

Listen Carefully!

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Except 90% of South Osetians are Russian citizens and somewhere in between their 10 Russian peace-keepers got killed, but that isn't anything important right?muscleserge
And? If they wanted to live in Russia...why aren't they? If Americans choose to move to another country and get caught up in a military action...that's on them.
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[QUOTE="Flotsam"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.LJS9502_basic

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

Actually it still is.:lol:

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

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#34 LJS9502_basic
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Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

Flotsam
I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?
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[QUOTE="Flotsam"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.ferrari2001

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

Well its not anymore, say bie to it.

technically it still is, revolutionaries were trying to separate that's why the georgian army showed up, then russia went poking around and started attacking then it ecellated, Georgia did nothing wrong, same thing happen in the American revolution North army dispatched to stop the south army from separating. it just took a much longer time.

Its democracy!!! people choose, not georgia.

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[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Except 90% of South Osetians are Russian citizens and somewhere in between their 10 Russian peace-keepers got killed, but that isn't anything important right?LJS9502_basic
And? If they wanted to live in Russia...why aren't they? If Americans choose to move to another country and get caught up in a military action...that's on them.

GHHHRRMMM....!!!!! Hawaii GRRRRHMMMMM!!!!!!
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[QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

LJS9502_basic

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

i am not saying it will be part of Russia, it most likely to be independent, and dare georgia to attack it.

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[QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

LJS9502_basic
I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

muscleserge

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

Its becouse US is not attacking anyone. If it did I pretty sure there would be a war, nuclear one.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

muscleserge
I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

And if Russia gets Georgia they can shut that oil off from Europe. Don't be laboring under the idea that Europe will give Russia free reign to do what it wishes.
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#41 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

Flotsam

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

i am not saying it will be part of Russia, it most likely to be independent, and dare georgia to attack it.

That uprising will be squashed.
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

LJS9502_basic

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

And if Russia gets Georgia they can shut that oil off from Europe. Don't be laboring under the idea that Europe will give Russia free reign to do what it wishes.

It would be their foult.

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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

Flotsam

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

Its becouse US is not attacking anyone. If it did I pretty sure there would be a war, nuclear one.

I am pretty sure you missed the whole invasion of a sovereign country on made up accusations, deal, ( Iraq) or the numerous threats of war Iran has been hearing about lately.
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[QUOTE="Flotsam"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

muscleserge

I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

Its becouse US is not attacking anyone. If it did I pretty sure there would be a war, nuclear one.

I am pretty sure you missed the whole invasion of a sovereign country on made up accusations, deal, ( Iraq) or the numerous threats of war Iran has been hearing about lately.

I think Georgia is plotting to wipe out Russia and start a WW3.

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[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.LJS9502_basic
Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

South Ossetia is independent. They killed 2,000 South Ossetians.

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#46 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Flotsam"]

Today maybe, in few days not anymore.

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I doubt Russia will get awarded for it's aggression. Are you perchance Russian?

The US is far more aggressive, and I don't see anyone putting up sanctions against it. Besides Russia supplies energy to most of Europe, I really doubt they will want to upset Russia.

And if Russia gets Georgia they can shut that oil off from Europe. Don't be laboring under the idea that Europe will give Russia free reign to do what it wishes.

Well it isn't like Europe has much choice, I mean Russia is huge and powerful, and it controls the biggest oil/gas reserves on earth, Europe has to cooperate. And it anyone even thinks of going to war with Russia they would almost certainly never succeed.
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#47 Elraptor
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Georgia bit off more than it could chew.
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#48 LJS9502_basic
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South Ossetia is independent. They killed 2,000 South Ossetians.

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No it's not.
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#49 Superbored
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] Well Georgia really was hoping for US or NATO support, so they got all pissy and attacked South Osetia, cause who would the world ( especially the west) believe the old commie Russians or the poor, west-loving Georgians. Fact is Georgia attacked first, against all Russian warnings, Georgia commenced ethnic cleansing in South Osetia, Russia stepped in, and now Georgia is getting owned extra hard.Krazy_duck

Uh...you know South Ossetia is part of Georgia....don't you? And they were putting down a disturbance. They didn't just attack SO.:|

South Ossetia is independent. They killed 2,000 South Ossetians.

No nation even recognizes their "independence". Not even Russia.

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#50 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Georgia attacked Russia first. I hope Russia defeats Georgia!StealthKing93

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