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#1 Sandro909
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http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2415318,00.html

Thoughts? :? 

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#3 Marx_Brother
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Absolutely not.
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#4 fordies
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I hope not as it would be the first signs of Europe becoming one and im against that we should just be very close allies.
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#5 ss_713
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That's a really bad idea.
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#7 Erasorn
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It better not be a lame clone of America's Army..
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#8 hyruledweller
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Say goodbye America!
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#9 marolia
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Absolutely not.Marx_Brother

Agreed. 

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#10 yoshi-lnex
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Sounds like a good idea, unification of forces and resorces would strenthen the overall strenth of the Eurapean armys.
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#11 Tolwan
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If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

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#12 marolia
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Than the European will have more power.
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If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

Germany doesn't want to deystroy us.

But in theory the idea of a European army is a good idea but has it's flaws. 

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#14 marolia
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If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

But even the US has to decide about this situation, than only they can create

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#15 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Spartan_385

Germany doesn't want to deystroy us.

Recent intelligent reports show that German's like russia have supported insurgent actions against the US. Remember when we attacked Iraq and their military was using Newly acquired Russian Arms? Germany has been shipping off it's weapons to Iran. Both Iran, germany, and Russia are speculated to be working together in one fashion or the other. Not to mention, if you'll notice Germany always try's to stop anything that support's the US when it comes to the UN.

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If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan
paranoi ftl......
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#17 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

yoshi-lnex

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

Yes, but this seems like flat out paranoia.
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#19 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

MattUD1

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

Yes, but this seems like flat out paranoia.

The attitudes of European countries towards the US, and Intelligence reports that have come in over the past 20 years, would suggest otherwise.

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#20 203762174820177760555343052357
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That certainly would be more efficient that having 12 different armies (if that is how many members there are in the EU).
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#21 The_Ish
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Now if only all of Asia combined together to form PAC, I will be overcome with exitement of the coming war. cough*BF2142*cough
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#22 AngelB1ack
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Good luck with that idea lmao!
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#23 194197844077667059316682358889
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Plucky Germany; if at first (and second) you don't succeed, try try again!
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#24 Vfanek
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EUROPE VS AMERICA YARRRRRRRR Seriously, no.
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#26 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

Yes, but this seems like flat out paranoia.

The attitudes of European countries towards the US, and Intelligence reports that have come in over the past 20 years, would suggest otherwise.

Seems. I'm not to learned in the ways of European Anti-Americanism.
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#27 mlbslugger86
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whoa,so that means.....*goes into bomb shelter*

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#28 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

not if that means attacking our allies and innocent people just becouse we have a hunch.
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

Yes, but this seems like flat out paranoia.

The attitudes of European countries towards the US, and Intelligence reports that have come in over the past 20 years, would suggest otherwise.

Can you cite specific intelligence reports that indicate that Europe is out to destroy/conquer the USA?
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#30 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

paranoi ftl......

Better to be safe than sorry, eh?

Yes, but this seems like flat out paranoia.

The attitudes of European countries towards the US, and Intelligence reports that have come in over the past 20 years, would suggest otherwise.

Such as?
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Think of europe as a giant prison and the different military's are the inmates. The inmates could team up together to overthrow the guards in the prison but it will never happen.....yknow why? Because hatred of other cultures and races will never allow it to happen.
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#32 Kev_Boy
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Why would we hate Americans?

They're our closest relatives in a way.

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#33 Mentalfred
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Think of europe as a giant prison and the different military's are the inmates. The inmates could team up together to overthrow the guards in the prison but it will never happen.....yknow why? Because hatred of other cultures and races will never allow it to happen. AngelB1ack
Whose hatred of other cultures and races?
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Plucky Germany; if at first (and second) you don't succeed, try try again!xaos

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Plucky Germany; if at first (and second) you don't succeed, try try again!BobElSnob

That's good.
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#36 Marx_Brother
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Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

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Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

Marx_Brother

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war 

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Plucky Germany; if at first (and second) you don't succeed, try try again!BobElSnob

you vil soon find out that ve germans are not all sunshine and chocolates

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#39 as1522742
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Biggggggggggg deal.:roll: Germany would never be allowed to have the entire european army at their disposal, if that was what you feared :roll:
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[QUOTE="Spartan_385"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

If this happens, it would be my personal opinion that the US would have to take action. Given the strong hatred most of europe shares towards the US, and some of Europe still wanting to destroy us, like germany, i feel this would pose a huge threat to us.

But it wont happen, trust me.

Tolwan

Germany doesn't want to deystroy us.

Recent intelligent reports show that German's like russia have supported insurgent actions against the US. Remember when we attacked Iraq and their military was using Newly acquired Russian Arms? Germany has been shipping off it's weapons to Iran. Both Iran, germany, and Russia are speculated to be working together in one fashion or the other. Not to mention, if you'll notice Germany always try's to stop anything that support's the US when it comes to the UN.

Lol, Russian & German conspiracies.:roll:
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

a55assin

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war 

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

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Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

Marx_Brother
No...
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It's a bad sign since there's a teaty that says the German army is resticted to only 100,000 men but if they're trying for a creation of a European army. They must be thinking if something up or trying to help the war in Iraq.
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

a55assin

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

It's like with Japan. They are only allowed to have a very small army and only allowed to mobilize for defense.
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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

Marx_Brother

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world. 

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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

a55assin

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world. 

Well, if German tried any of that crap again we would probably nuke them and give half of their country to Poland and France.

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Bad idea. Bigger the forces. Bigger the wars.
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#48 a55assin
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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

Marx_Brother

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world.

Well, if German tried any of that crap again we would probably nuke them and give half of their country to Poland and France.

 

Poland deserves it...and we wouldn't actually nuke them. Anyways...we are at war right now...soon to be in another war....fighting like 3 countries...think that US can just pull soldiers out of their ass?

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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

a55assin

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world.

Hitler rebuilt the army without anyone noticing and everyone was furthermore pissed at the fact that the Versailles treaty limited the German army to 100,000. Germans felt threatened by France and that they couldn't defend themselves. Now, I don't see that as a problem. I see no problem with allowing Germany to join with a European army, as they will not have total control of it. Who the hell would fall for another wannabe dictator anyway? Who would fall for another Enabling Act?
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

a55assin

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world.

Well, if German tried any of that crap again we would probably nuke them and give half of their country to Poland and France.

 

Poland deserves it...and we wouldn't actually nuke them. Anyways...we are at war right now...soon to be in another war....fighting like 3 countries...think that US can just pull soldiers out of their ass?

How does Poland deserve the German Fatherland? The Germans were already forced go hand over Prussia...