German Chancellor Favors Creation of European Army

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#51 a55assin
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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

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Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world.

Hitler rebuilt the army without anyone noticing and everyone was furthermore pissed at the fact that the Versailles treaty limited the German army to 100,000. Germans felt threatened by France and that they couldn't defend themselves. Now, I don't see that as a problem. I see no problem with allowing Germany to join with a European army, as they will not have total control of it. Who the hell would fall for another wannabe dictator anyway? Who would fall for another Enabling Act?

 

True...Germany wouldn't do anything anymore...it's a little different now. I wasn't saying that the reason Europe shouldn't be one big army is Germany...Actually..they should be an allied force...but then most of the countires NEED help..and cannot give help.. 

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#52 a55assin
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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Germany already aren't allowed to attack another country... methinks they are using this idea to start another war.

bastards12345

 

Aren't allowed to attack another country? Is there a mother country ruling over the world that I don't know about? War isn't a chess game...it's war

The bundeswehr is defence only, no attacking. Do you think we could trust germans to have attacking powers after 2 world wars? I think not.

 

They have a limited army...yes. But a country cannot just tell another one not to go to war. It doesn't make sense. What happened in WWII? Germany wasn't supposed to have an army..and yet they almost took over the freakin world.

Well, if German tried any of that crap again we would probably nuke them and give half of their country to Poland and France.

 

Poland deserves it...and we wouldn't actually nuke them. Anyways...we are at war right now...soon to be in another war....fighting like 3 countries...think that US can just pull soldiers out of their ass?

How does Poland deserve the German Fatherland? The Germans were already forced go hand over Prussia...

 

Because Poland used to as big as Germany and france until they both took pieces from it...I think every country ever to have been anywhere near Poland took something for it. Poland used to be extremely wealthy before Germany pretty much sacked it. They took all the Gold they could carry and left Poland in a depression state. It's still pretty bad...it''s really bad actually. 

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#53 Mr_sprinkles
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Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.
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Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.Mr_sprinkles

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East. 

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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.a55assin

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.
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#56 Mr_sprinkles
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.MattUD1

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

a better comparison might have been 'just because you're the biggest kid in the playground doesn't mean you have the right to take everyone elses lunch money'
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.Mr_sprinkles

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

a better comparison might have been 'just because you're the biggest kid in the playground doesn't mean you have the right to take everyone elses dinner money'

touche.

 

Saw the edit. 

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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.MattUD1

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

 

I bet you're proud of yourself then..eh?

Seriously though...if one earns his "title", one deserves to use it for something...right? 

Imagine you having your 10k post thing...and still have no respect from other posters....it's the same with the US..their respect comes from War, Fear, and power.

Yes...I compared a forum to a superpower... 

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#59 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.a55assin

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

 

I bet you're proud of yourself then..eh?

Seriously though...if one earns his "title", one deserves to use it for something...right?

Imagine you having your 10k post thing...and still have no respect from other posters....it's the same with the US..their respect comes from War, Fear, and power.

Yes...I compared a forum to a superpower...

I'm supposed to be proud I compared a superpower to a drunk driver?  And I don't care if people don't respect me.  I don't do anything to make them hate me, personal attacks, flaming, praising superiority or any of that.
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.a55assin

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

 

I bet you're proud of yourself then..eh?

Seriously though...if one earns his "title", one deserves to use it for something...right? 

So might makes right, then?
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#61 Mr_sprinkles
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.MattUD1

 

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

a better comparison might have been 'just because you're the biggest kid in the playground doesn't mean you have the right to take everyone elses dinner money'

touche.

 

Saw the edit. 

you dont call it dinner over there in america do ya?
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#62 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.Mr_sprinkles

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

a better comparison might have been 'just because you're the biggest kid in the playground doesn't mean you have the right to take everyone elses dinner money'

touche.

Saw the edit.

you dont call it dinner over there in america do ya?

Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner. I thought you were talking about the latter, and not the middle. My apologies.
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Why are you americans so bloody paranoid? We don't want to take over and rule the world. No seriously, we don't. But a unified european army might stop the US from always doing whatever the hell they want wether the rest of the world likes it or not.xaos

I like that. Probably because it's true. But considering that the US is the only superpower in the world right now, they kind of have the right to do whatever the hell they want to. If Europe was to make a unified army, things would change and maybe...just maybe US will stop harrassing The Middle East.

Just because you can get behind the wheel of a car while drunk doesn't mean you should. Yes, I just compared being a lone superpower with no one to stand up to us to a drunk driver.

I bet you're proud of yourself then..eh?

Seriously though...if one earns his "title", one deserves to use it for something...right?

So might makes right, then?

I wouldn't say we earned it either. The Soviet Union just couldn't support itself.
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#64 a55assin
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The US believes it has a right to control the world...due to their enormous supply of nukes and carriers. It's not like I think that it's right...but the US is taking what they think is deserved. IT makes sense. If you were win a war againts Rome a "long time ago"...you wouldn't just say "yay". You would do something about it. Their superpower titles gives them a different look at things, they need more and more and more.
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#65 MattUD1
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The only problem with that is not everyone in the US supports what we do, I.E Iraq. Afghanistan is fine, that's where ObL is supposedly hiding, either there or Pakistan, and where the war on terror is being fought.