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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]Well, I don't see a problem if it's somebody who takes a hit every once in a while at a party or something. But when they get high at 10 in the morning and start worshiping the damn plant, its a little ridiculous.So would you be perfectly fine if she smoked weed just for the hell of it, with no reason?... Why else would potheads be smoking then?
In my opinion, there should be a reason whatsoever to start smoking pot.
DJG24992
Yeah I know what you mean. I just don't think there should be a reason whatsoever to smoke pot, whether it's because it hides other issues for a while (Because there are better methods for helping depression anyways), or solely because you have nothing better to do.
From what little you've said it looks like there isn't much you can do for the moment. You can push the issue and argue about it but at the moment pot takes her mind of whatever her problems might be. She's not going to stop until she has a reason, and a good reason at that. The only thing I can think of is for you to try your best to be that reason but that's a dangerous path to take. You run the risk of running yourself into the ground trying to be your best for her with no real assurance of success. If she really is worth it to you then you can try to help her with whatever is bothering her but if you push things too much you run the risk of everything blowing up in your face.
Perhaps we could offer some suggestions of things you could do about specific things that are troubling her.
Well you've done just about the only thing you can do. You've told here that pot is not a healthy way to deal w/ depression.
Honestly I'd just dump her ass. She's not being responsible for taking care of herself, and obviously won't listen to reason.
You'll just end up hurting each other in the long run, so it's best to end this now.
Tell her you'll break up with her if she doesn't cut down on it. Also be sure to tell her that she's fat.needled24-7
But people are given recommendations to use marijuana from doctors to fight anorexia :|
Tell her you'll break up with her if she doesn't cut down on it. Also be sure to tell her that she's fat.needled24-7This. it seems like a good plan!
[QUOTE="needled24-7"]Tell her you'll break up with her if she doesn't cut down on it. Also be sure to tell her that she's fat.Nifty_Shark
But people are given recommendations to use marijuana from doctors to fight anorexia :|
Yeah, she's been smoking too much and getting the munchies, so she's gaining weight.[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]Tell her you'll break up with her if she doesn't cut down on it. Also be sure to tell her that she's fat.needled24-7
But people are given recommendations to use marijuana from doctors to fight anorexia :|
Yeah, she's been smoking too much and getting the munchies, so she's gaining weight.Ah OK.
How about for fun? It's a hobby. Don't knock it till ya tried it.So would you be perfectly fine if she smoked weed just for the hell of it, with no reason?... Why else would potheads be smoking then?
In my opinion, there should be no reason whatsoever to start smoking pot.
Nerd_Man
[QUOTE="dark_orb"]I appreciate the response. And she has been through so much it's overwhelming. I think the main cause of her depression is that she is living with her grandparents because her parents lost custody of her when she was only a baby, and her grandmother has always told her that she is worthless and will never amount anything her whole life. She is also finding out that her grandfather is cheating on her gma, and so on. It just a tough time for her i guess. We're both 17 btw.From what little you've said it looks like there isn't much you can do for the moment. You can push the issue and argue about it but at the moment pot takes her mind of whatever her problems might be. She's not going to stop until she has a reason, and a good reason at that. The only thing I can think of is for you to try your best to be that reason but that's a dangerous path to take. You run the risk of running yourself into the ground trying to be your best for her with no real assurance of success. If she really is worth it to you then you can try to help her with whatever is bothering her but if you push things too much you run the risk of everything blowing up in your face.
Perhaps we could offer some suggestions of things you could do about specific things that are troubling her.
DJG24992
Yeah, I can see that bothering a young woman. My wife has a lot of issues with her family as well, I think everybody does on some level. I don't know what you can do about all that, when somebody has been told they are worthless for much of their life like she has it's not something you can change their mind quickly. I would guess that if you stick with her your going to have to put up with a lot of BS from that area for years to come. It's really frustrating to be around someone that dislikes themselves openly, even though they are with somebody that thinks the world of them (you). Try to show her that you see someone of worth and that it's what she thinks of her self that's most important. If she knows for herself that she is someone of worth then it won't matter as much what her grandparents might think of her. But people struggle their entire lives to get to that point. Possibly because it's easier to pity yourself since when you do people around you often tell you things you want to hear. Everybody likes hearing nice things about themselves, for some reason liking hearing it doesn't mean they believe it.
But I'm getting way off track here. Like I said, patience, understanding, and your love over a long period of time are the best things you can give her. If she comes around you two have the potential for a wonderful future.
[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]I wasn't serious about that part anyways. :PAh OK.
needled24-7
But I can see that.
"all that smoking is making you eat more and more. You better stop or else I won't go out with you anymore you fat pig"
[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]How about for fun? It's a hobby. Don't knock it till ya tried it. Agreed, the only difference between doing pot and drinking is that one is legal and the other one isn't. Both temporarily help you stop thinking about life and feel good. Neither actually help, and relying on either usually ends poorly.So would you be perfectly fine if she smoked weed just for the hell of it, with no reason?... Why else would potheads be smoking then?
In my opinion, there should be no reason whatsoever to start smoking pot.
ManifestoJoe
[QUOTE="dark_orb"][QUOTE="DJG24992"] I appreciate the response. And she has been through so much it's overwhelming. I think the main cause of her depression is that she is living with her grandparents because her parents lost custody of her when she was only a baby, and her grandmother has always told her that she is worthless and will never amount anything her whole life. She is also finding out that her grandfather is cheating on her gma, and so on. It just a tough time for her i guess. We're both 17 btw.DJG24992
Yeah, I can see that bothering a young woman. My wife has a lot of issues with her family as well, I think everybody does on some level. I don't know what you can do about all that, when somebody has been told they are worthless for much of their life like she has it's not something you can change their mind quickly. I would guess that if you stick with her your going to have to put up with a lot of BS from that area for years to come. It's really frustrating to be around someone that dislikes themselves openly, even though they are with somebody that thinks the world of them (you). Try to show her that you see someone of worth and that it's what she thinks of her self that's most important. If she knows for herself that she is someone of worth then it won't matter as much what her grandparents might think of her. But people struggle their entire lives to get to that point. Possibly because it's easier to pity yourself since when you do people around you often tell you things you want to hear. Everybody likes hearing nice things about themselves, for some reason liking hearing it doesn't mean they believe it.
But I'm getting way off track here. Like I said, patience, understanding, and your love over a long period of time are the best things you can give her. If she comes around you two have the potential for a wonderful future.
damn....i was expecting to get no help when i posted this. Thanks for all you help man I appreciate itI don't know how much anything I've said will actually help but if it does then I'm happy for you both. Best of luck.
[QUOTE="ManifestoJoe"][QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]How about for fun? It's a hobby. Don't knock it till ya tried it. Agreed, the only difference between doing pot and drinking is that one is legal and the other one isn't. Both temporarily help you stop thinking about life and feel good. Neither actually help, and relying on either usually ends poorly.Yes, and if you're like me you end up being the sad crying guy at parties after a while, I'm glad I stopped.So would you be perfectly fine if she smoked weed just for the hell of it, with no reason?... Why else would potheads be smoking then?
In my opinion, there should be no reason whatsoever to start smoking pot.
dark_orb
[QUOTE="dark_orb"][QUOTE="ManifestoJoe"]How about for fun? It's a hobby. Don't knock it till ya tried it.TiefsterAgreed, the only difference between doing pot and drinking is that one is legal and the other one isn't. Both temporarily help you stop thinking about life and feel good. Neither actually help, and relying on either usually ends poorly.Yes, and if you're like me you end up being the sad crying guy at parties after a while, I'm glad I stopped.
I've only cried once when I was drunk and it kind of felt good to get it out of my system. I was babbling about how there would be no new Nirvana album hahaha
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