Global unity

Do you think Global unity where the whole world is under one government will happen ? or is it impossible ? and why ?

Do you think Global unity where the whole world is under one government will happen ? or is it impossible ? and why ?

bryan2020

Vouching for a New World Order? I would have nothing to do with it. The scum that want a one world government are basically the corporate elite across the globe, globalizing factions. They are NOT doing this with the intention of helping people, in fact its the last thing on their mind. A lot of these corporations actually support world depopulation, just ask Ted Turner, he thinks we'll all be cannibals soon.

The New World Order lemmings can basically suck some hairy ones, cause many many people are not going to go with the "flow" on this topic. Starting with me, I CHOOSE SOVEREIGNTY!

The scary truth is that this globalizing faction is already taking over europe through the EU. They soon will add Ireland to their list it seems. Others are surely in line to be next. There is an African Union going into effect, and an asian union. America is falling under the North American Union, you may have heard of it. Soon those "unions" will be joined to form a one world government. People really need to look into this because it actually seems to be happening, the jist is that it happens so slow that people cant even tell whats really going on, incrementalism in action.

EU takeover of Europe: http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=173

Vouching for a New World Order I see? I would have nothing to do with it. The scum that want a one world government are basically the corporate elite across the globe, globalizing factions. They are NOT doing this with the intention of helping people, in fact its the last thing on their mind. A lot of these corporations actually support world depopulation, just ask Ted Turner, he thinks we'll all be cannibals soon.

The New World Order lemmings can basically suck some hairy ones, cause many many people are not going to go with the "flow" on this topic. Starting with me, I CHOOSE SOVEREIGNTY!

jer_1

No one here has vouched for it yet. The topic is on whether or not it could happen.

I dont think it will ever happen , down right impossible.

Its intresting seeing what others think .

I think a global government would be a good thing. It could operate under a similar system to the USA. For example the world government enforces laws like don't murder or war, etc. And then the local governments could have their own laws for things related to culture of the area.

There would still be resource and ideological conflicts to work out though.

A sole government would be a horrible thing! Just think of how dominant, powerful, selfish and dangerous they would become. Maybe not at first but, as time goes on, they will!

no it won't man kind is too power hungry, "knows too much", and is too sinful too ever let it happen.

Only an empire that takes land by force could possibly get near it.

and it might turn into a 1984 scenerio :shock:sentencedogu

I think that is far more likely than 1 world government.

Do you think Global unity where the whole world is under one government will happen ? or is it impossible ? and why ?

bryan2020

well if you've ever read Revelation then yeah it'll happen. It's the beginning of the end of times.

1984 ... is now in the UK ...lol

our local councils inspect your rubbish bins /trash an fine you for not seperating it ,they weigh it too.....!! they fine you $2000 an offense ....

we are watched on every street corner by cttv ....although Chav /youth gangs can still roam an deal drugs an kill for kicks in a drugged/drunk stupor ...but if you normal person who drops litter you get armed police at your door .. seriously ,, UK is really messed up ...

Orwell is spinning in his grave at what New Labour has done too the UK :( :(

1984 ... is now in the UK ...lol

our local councils inspect your rubbish bins /trash an fine you for not seperating it ,they weigh it too.....!! they fine you $2000 an offense ....

we are watched on every street corner by cttv ....although Chav /youth gangs can still roam an deal drugs an kill for kicks in a drugged/drunk stupor ...but if you normal person who drops litter you get armed police at your door .. seriously ,, UK is really messed up ...

Orwell is spinning in his grave at what New Labour has done too the UK :( :(

Jonny_Grey

All of that is greatly exadurated.

[QUOTE="Jonny_Grey"]

1984 ... is now in the UK ...lol

our local councils inspect your rubbish bins /trash an fine you for not seperating it ,they weigh it too.....!! they fine you $2000 an offense ....

we are watched on every street corner by cttv ....although Chav /youth gangs can still roam an deal drugs an kill for kicks in a drugged/drunk stupor ...but if you normal person who drops litter you get armed police at your door .. seriously ,, UK is really messed up ...

Orwell is spinning in his grave at what New Labour has done too the UK :( :(

mattyftm

All of that is greatly exadurated.

And thats understating it. :P

Do you think Global unity where the whole world is under one government will happen ? or is it impossible ? and why ?

bryan2020

its definitely possible. I mean theres talks about a North American Union. Theres already a EU. We just need a few more unions, and then a final union. Its possible and people are defnitiely dumb enough to think its for our own good.

Definitely a bad idea, because the bigger the government is, the less they listen to people. Hopefully america wakes up.

Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

Jonny_Grey

1. I saw that news about him being fined, and it wasnt £1000 it was £200 and that was after going to court - it was origionaly an on the spot £50 fine. And there is no excuse for having overflowing bins, since you can order extra bins from the council.

2. Gangs are only a problem in cirtain area's, and there are area's like that (and worse) in any country.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

mattyftm

You have got to be kidding me...

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Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

mattyftm

1. I saw that news about him being fined, and it wasnt £1000 it was £200 and that was after going to court - it was origionaly an on the spot £50 fine. And there is no excuse for having overflowing bins, since you can order extra bins from the council.

2. Gangs are only a problem in cirtain area's, and there are area's like that (and worse) in any country.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

Reassuring? You have to be joking me. They provide no protection whatsoever, they do provide a corrupted government with a means to track anyone they wish day-in, day-out almost anywhere they travel. Dont be that mind numbed to think that those cctv's are only used for their intended purpose.

[QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="Jonny_Grey"]

Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

jer_1

1. I saw that news about him being fined, and it wasnt £1000 it was £200 and that was after going to court - it was origionaly an on the spot £50 fine. And there is no excuse for having overflowing bins, since you can order extra bins from the council.

2. Gangs are only a problem in cirtain area's, and there are area's like that (and worse) in any country.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

Reassuring? You have to be joking me. They provide no protection whatsoever, they do provide a corrupted government with a means to track anyone they wish day-in, day-out almost anywhere they travel. Dont be that mind numbed to think that those cctv's are only used for their intended purpose.

Even if they are used to track people, whats wrong with that? Some people need tracking (e.g. suspected terrorist). Would you rather them lock people up without evidence, or track them to find evidence of their wrongdoings? Or track them and find their innocence? Either way you get justice.

Global unity will only be achievable through global communism.

"Both the community of property and the community of families, as I am saying, tend to make them more truly guardians; they will not tear the city in pieces by differing about 'mine' and 'not mine'; each man dragging any acquisition which he has made into a separate house of his own, where he has a separate wife and children and private pleasures and pains; but all will be affected as far as may be by the same pleasures and pains because they are all of one opinion about what is near and dear to them, and therefore they all tend towards a common end."

"Then, under the influence either of poverty or of wealth, workmen and their work are equally liable to degenerate?
That is evident.
Here, then, is a discovery of new evils, I said, against which the guardians will have to watch, or they will creep into the city unobserved.
What evils?
Wealth, I said, and poverty; the one is the parent of luxury and indolence, and the other of meanness and viciousness, and both of discontent."

"You ought to speak of other States in the plural number; not one of them is a city, but many cities, as they say in the game. For indeed any city, however small, is in fact divided into two, one the city of the poor, the other of the rich; these are at war with one another; and in either there are many smaller divisions, and you would be altogether beside the mark if you treated them all as a single State. But if you deal with them as many, and give the wealth or power or persons of the one to the others, you will always have a great many friends and not many enemies. And your State, while the wise order which has now been prescribed continues to prevail in her, will be the greatest of States, I do not mean to say in reputation or appearance, but in deed and truth, though she number not more than a thousand defenders. A single State which is her equal you will hardly find, either among Hellenes or barbarians, though many that appear to be as great and many times greater."

Socrates in Plato's Republic

Of course the creation and implentation of global communism would of course be highly complex and controversial but it is in my view the only social order in which global unity is possible.

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Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

mattyftm

1. I saw that news about him being fined, and it wasnt £1000 it was £200 and that was after going to court - it was origionaly an on the spot £50 fine. And there is no excuse for having overflowing bins, since you can order extra bins from the council.

2. Gangs are only a problem in cirtain area's, and there are area's like that (and worse) in any country.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

Reassuring? You have to be joking me. They provide no protection whatsoever, they do provide a corrupted government with a means to track anyone they wish day-in, day-out almost anywhere they travel. Dont be that mind numbed to think that those cctv's are only used for their intended purpose.

Even if they are used to track people, whats wrong with that? Some people need tracking (e.g. suspected terrorist). Would you rather them lock people up without evidence, or track them to find evidence of their wrongdoings? Or track them and find their innocence? Either way you get justice.

How about we put telescreens in everyones home as well. After all if you don't have anything to hide what's the problem?

How about we put telescreens in everyones home as well. After all if you don't have anything to hide what's the problem?

gobo212

Thats totaly diferent. In your own home you have a right to privacy. In public you have no right to privacy because your in public.

roflz look at the american bill, New World Order? Illuminati is for real. theres only one way to fix a global crisis, with a global movement, thus a global governemt, aka New World OrderDrCoCoPiMp

no u are just mad conspiracist, there is no illuminati

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Mattyfm an loonie

if Your UKers ....dont lie ,my council are issuing fines for bin lids left open see the news this week Daily Mirror , bloke got fined £1000 ,

regarding feral youth gangs see the news any night , recent case was the Newlove case killed for kicks by drunken chavs ,

If you walk down any high st you are monitored constantly by cctv ..(last weeks Dom Jolie ch5 tv show on mon nites showed that ) chavs an druggies just roam away from cctv ....

wake up an stop pretending the UK is ok its falling apart even Brown knows it after his 10p tax row ,lol (funniest thing has to be is *Prescott the fat tanker* was bulimic , yeah right fattie )

mattyftm

1. I saw that news about him being fined, and it wasnt £1000 it was £200 and that was after going to court - it was origionaly an on the spot £50 fine. And there is no excuse for having overflowing bins, since you can order extra bins from the council.

2. Gangs are only a problem in cirtain area's, and there are area's like that (and worse) in any country.

3. What is wrong with CCTV cameras? If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry abou. They should be reasuring.

Reassuring? You have to be joking me. They provide no protection whatsoever, they do provide a corrupted government with a means to track anyone they wish day-in, day-out almost anywhere they travel. Dont be that mind numbed to think that those cctv's are only used for their intended purpose.

Even if they are used to track people, whats wrong with that? Some people need tracking (e.g. suspected terrorist). Would you rather them lock people up without evidence, or track them to find evidence of their wrongdoings? Or track them and find their innocence? Either way you get justice.

Whats wrong with that, for Americans at least, is that is in violation of the constitution. I guess since you have basically resigned your "constitution" then i guess its fine and dandy for your authorities to walk all over you in the UK. However, America is vastly different in intent. We arent INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY here not the opposite...

[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]roflz look at the american bill, New World Order? Illuminati is for real. theres only one way to fix a global crisis, with a global movement, thus a global governemt, aka New World Ordermingo123

no u are just mad conspiracist, there is no illuminati

You should think of the "Illuminati" as more a gathering of international bankers (Rothschild or one of their lemmings, Rockefellers, and other robber baron families) and elitist corporate interests. They do exist, all you have to do is go where the Bilderberg meetings are every year and you will see them in action.

Mattftm

1 It was a £1000 which Daily Mirror do you get ? ,lol

2 The Newlove murder of an innocent guy was a nice area ... so chavs only hang in *certain* areas , ok ..btw dont people who live in *certain* areas deserve to be safe then ?? ? hope you never end up living in *certain* areas as you snobishly call them .. ,lol

3 Whats wrong with CTTV ...lol

wake up they dont STOP Crime its to Police the Public an Roads /fines etc .. lol

Whats wrong with that, for Americans at least, is that is in violation of the constitution and specifically the bill of rights. I guess since you have basically resigned your "constitution" then i guess its fine and dandy for your authorities to walk all over you in the UK. However, America is vastly different in intent. We arent INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY here not the opposite...

jer_1

I'm not saying you treat them as guilty before you have proved it, you treat them as suspects, and track them to find proof of guilt, or innocence. There is a huge diference between suspecting someone and calling them guilty.

Mattftm

1 It was a £1000 which Daily Mirror do you get ? ,lol

2 The Newlove murder of an innocent guy was a nice area ... so chavs only hang in *certain* areas , ok ..btw dont people who live in *certain* areas deserve to be safe then ?? ? hope you never end up living in *certain* areas as you snobishly call them .. ,lol

3 Whats wrong with CTTV ...lol

wake up they dont STOP Crime its to Police the Public an Roads /fines etc .. lol

Jonny_Grey

1. The daily mirror exadurates everything, I saw it on the local BBC news.

2. I was agreeing with you that this happens. I agree people in these area's deserve to be safe. I agree - I was simply saying that it is just as bad (or worse) in other countries. you were making it sound like it only happens in the UK

3. See my other comments for my thoughts on this.

Jeez, why do I feel like its me against the rest of the world in this thread.

I Total SUPPORT THE US GUYS HERE on this cctv thing...:) :)

In the UK Bliar has errodded our Medieval laws an Regulations we had all because he wanted a Police state ,He got it ...:( :(

We are not allowed Free speach in the UK unless the govt allow it , FACT !!!

If you want to protest in London wether its *anti bin taxes by your local council* ,

you need to submit a planning order which can take 6 months to approve ..6 MONTHS !!!!

Or youre classed as a terrorist an can be shot dead ....

If you go an stand in front of parliment an shout* WE HATE BIN TAXES * ...even one of you try an .... BANG ,,, he were a terrorist the Govt would scream ...SHAMEFUL UK

[QUOTE="jer_1"]

Whats wrong with that, for Americans at least, is that is in violation of the constitution and specifically the bill of rights. I guess since you have basically resigned your "constitution" then i guess its fine and dandy for your authorities to walk all over you in the UK. However, America is vastly different in intent. We arent INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY here not the opposite...

mattyftm

I'm not saying you treat them as guilty before you have proved it, you treat them as suspects, and track them to find proof of guilt, or innocence. There is a huge diference between suspecting someone and calling them guilty.

What is this, double speak day? Treating them as suspects is basically one in the same as considering them guilty before providing any proof. If you truly think its better off to watch and monitor every move people make every day then I guess you are gonna be a great addition to the structure of a one world government. I tend to say THINK FOR YOURSELF, dont let your fears of "terrorists" implanted by the BBC or Reuters dominate the way you think. Your rights to freedom are FAR more important than a bit of TEMPORARY safety...