global warming myths debunked

Humans are not responsible for global warming, period. My mind will never change, despite your massive global concerts trying to tell me otherwise.Yarcofin

So basically, you think it's perfectly ok to ignore the coming storm as well as selfishly destroy people's future's just so you don't have to put up with the fact that your lifestyle is unsustainable? You're like a smoker who claims that we should have no say in his lifestyle despite the fact that his habit causes clear harm to other people.

Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.SmashBrosLegend

Air-5!!

[QUOTE="Yarcofin"]Humans are not responsible for global warming, period. My mind will never change, despite your massive global concerts trying to tell me otherwise.CaptHawkeye

So basically, you think it's perfectly ok to ignore the coming storm as well as selfishly destroy people's future's just so you don't have to put up with the fact that your lifestyle is unsustainable? You're like a smoker who claims that we should have no say in his lifestyle despite the fact that his habit causes clear harm to other people.

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[QUOTE="Yarcofin"]Humans are not responsible for global warming, period. My mind will never change, despite your massive global concerts trying to tell me otherwise.mig_killer2

So basically, you think it's perfectly ok to ignore the coming storm as well as selfishly destroy people's future's just so you don't have to put up with the fact that your lifestyle is unsustainable? You're like a smoker who claims that we should have no say in his lifestyle despite the fact that his habit causes clear harm to other people.

Irrelevant red herring. You are AGREEING with me that the atmosphere is warming.

Do you understand that the greenhouse effect already warms the Earth so much that it would be a frozen iceball if not for this effect, so only a small variation in its total effect would be more than enough to create significant globalwarming? That's why it's stupid and ignorant to say that human CO2 production doesn't matter if it appears to be only a small proportion of the overall greenhouse effect.

Do you understand that the greenhouse effect already warms the Earth so much that it would be a frozen iceball if not for this effect, so only a small variation in its total effect would be more than enough to create significant globalwarming? That's why it's stupid and ignorant to say that human CO2 production doesn't matter if it appears to be only a small proportion of the overall greenhouse effect.

CaptHawkeye

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I always use the example of a cup of water, which, left to its own devices, fills itself up and drains itself out naturally. It sometimes approaches the overflow level, but it never exceeds it in its natural setting. However, if you get an outside element adding water, it screws up the natural balance of the cup. It doesn't even need to be much water added... if the cup is already close to full, adding even a little bit can cause it to overflow, making a big mess.

Really, even if humans have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on global warming, there are STILL plenty of great reasons to limit the burning of fossil fuels in favor of cleaner, more sustainable energy initiatives. Acid rain and pollution are real problems, especially in large cities. Pollution damages natural habitats and endangers the health of people who must breathe the polluted air. Given an alternative of breathing clean air and using energy alternatives that don't cause pollution, what sensible person would stubbornly cling to fossil fuels? Those with an economic interest, that's who. And frankly, that's why we don't change. Too much money, people claim. Too hard.

I think the video that was posted earlier is a wonderfully clear expression of why it's in our best interests to change our habits. The risk of a global disaster on only the economic level is better than the risk of a total global disaster. And if man made global warming is indeed totally false, changing our habits would still not be wasted money, because we'd be living in cleaner cities, using power sources which are not going to run out, and which do not depend on ripping apart the world in search of fossil fuels.

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here is a link to friends of science, a non-profit canadian organization founded in canada

http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4

yoshi-lnex

You really need to learn to take random websites with a grain of salt, the "evidence" they provide is often non-existent, incredibly biast, or just flat out lies.

You really need to learn to take statements made by presidential candidates with a grain of salt, the "evidence" they provide is often non-existent, incredibly biased, or just flat out lies.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]

[QUOTE="Yarcofin"]Humans are not responsible for global warming, period. My mind will never change, despite your massive global concerts trying to tell me otherwise.CaptHawkeye

So basically, you think it's perfectly ok to ignore the coming storm as well as selfishly destroy people's future's just so you don't have to put up with the fact that your lifestyle is unsustainable? You're like a smoker who claims that we should have no say in his lifestyle despite the fact that his habit causes clear harm to other people.

Irrelevant red herring. You are AGREEING with me that the atmosphere is warming.

Do you understand that the greenhouse effect already warms the Earth so much that it would be a frozen iceball if not for this effect, so only a small variation in its total effect would be more than enough to create significant globalwarming? That's why it's stupid and ignorant to say that human CO2 production doesn't matter if it appears to be only a small proportion of the overall greenhouse effect.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

global warming is caused by solar activity, not CO2 emissions

of all the CO2 that is added into the air, roughly 95% of it comes from natural sources

here's another link: http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba230.html

CaptHawkeye

Oh for christ sake, the firstwebsite you are pulled your so called "evidence" from is an organization of drivers. OBVIOUSLY they aren't going to acknowledge Global Warming's human causes.

Sorry, but Proffesional Scientific Reports verified by scientific community>>>>>>>>>> Random drivers union pretending to be experts on something they aren't.

global warming is caused by solar activity,

The temperature of the solar system has been on the rise, but Earth's temperature rise has been FAR above the trend in the rest of SOL.

That's not necessarily true. The temperature on Mars has been skyrocketing.

So, some random site on the internet = absolute athority.

You really thought that one through.

yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.SpedKnight

Air-5!!

yeah the government that wants nothing to do with it, isnt helping at all and worries about wasteing money is the ones behind it. Yeah that makes sense.Yeah the same governemtn covering it up and trying to make it look less bad than it really is are the ones doing it. I quess by trying to make us believe its not that bad brings fear to us???/?

Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.SmashBrosLegend

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.Jhonie_Fklits25

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.Jhonie_Fklits25

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

So, some random site on the internet = absolute athority.

You really thought that one through.

Evolving_Jesus

BTW: christianity and global warming, not at all related.

[QUOTE="Jhonie_Fklits25"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.yoshi-lnex

I think its naturallugiemojeed

Even if it is natural doesnt mean we shouldn't look for cleaner alternatives to fossil fuel. When I lived in Mexico city every morning you would find a lot of dead birds inthe street because of contamination. The problem may not affect the whole planet but it will affect US. Even if the reason is not the correct the means are. :)

Sorry if my english was bad.

Cows emit more gases which are harmful to the enviorment than we do. Why have a LiveEarth concert when we should really be having a LiveCow concert devoted to the slaughter of millions of cows to combat climate change? You see, human contributions to climate change are minimal and insignificant.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]It doesn't matter if the CO2 we emit has little effect on the environment. It still effects it in a negative way and it is BAD for the planet.mig_killer2

So what? If we change our ways, the planet won't get any better and because of that we should just keep damaging the environment since there's nothing we can do about it? Am I the only one that thinks this sounds absurd?

Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.SmashBrosLegend

True

[QUOTE="mark4091"]Yeah the climate is changing, but we aren't causing it. well we do have an effect, but it's really really little.mig_killer2

He just said really little and we should limit our selves.. Why? Because, so we can slow the process as much as possible so we have the technology to adapt to the huge change that many scientists are predicting. Why is this so hard to understand to so many people? If we are capable of slowing the climate change bya f ew years I would think it to be very important.. Because its kinda scary what some scientists believe.. Such as the fact that rain fall will significantly change which may indeed cripple our entire agriculture in the United States..

I would think we would want to prolong from such a thing ever happening as long as possible so we can prepare for it.

Yes the globe is warming, it warms itself all the time, watch the global warming swindle, al gore conveniently left out some facts the mass market needs to hear.

We need to stop wasting time on the Co2 and find real ways we can prevent it, yes cleaning up pollution is good, but it's not going to stop spain from flooding.

when the ice age happened it was cuased by dinosaurs driving 4x4 cars contrabuting to climate change

i heard that the polar ice caps arn't going to melt

Man-made global warming is a political tool and nothing more.SmashBrosLegend

That's funny. Here I thought denying it was a political tool...

Right, virtually every environmental scientist on Earth is really just part of a big cabal. Thank God that people with rougly zero understanding of thermodynamics or the properties of gases are here to enlighten us.

This is a pretty stupid thread you made.

Firstly the site is run by the ASSOCIATION OF BRITISH DRIVERS. (bias)

Secondly there are no references or credible sources listed on the pageto back up their "facts". (more bias)

Thirdly they are forming opinions where none are required for a page that is meant to be purely factual.

The next time you wish to debunk decades of research, try to use a more credible source of information. :roll: