God Exist!!!!

Where do bad folks go when they die? They don't go to heaven where the angels fly.

If your only proof for God is by asking who created the trees, the galaxy etc.

Then who created God, and if you say that he was always there....then i can also say that about the universe.

I believe we will never know the truth, it is impossible to know the beginnings of the universe.

Christianity and the Bible, like all religions and mythical/legendary documents that have come before and all that will come after, will become obsolete over time. Their messages lost to newer and more forward thinking ideas. God, Heaven and Hell are what we as sentient beings, with the ability to freely choose, make of them. One of the only absolute things in this world is our existence, we know we exist and we know that at a point in time we will cease to exist. We have to take full advantage of the time we get to make our existence meaningful, we have to choose our paths in life... nothing is laid out for us, it is all determined by our choice.

Religion is a construct of the human mind as one method of given our existence meaning. It is definitely a positive method... but at some times, many followers of certain religions and beliefs are blinded by their devotion... they being to not see clearly at to what is truly right and wrong in their actions. We have the ability to grow beyond the limitations of the animal kingdom. Beyond petty squabbles and quarrels. We have a level of consciousness not attainable by any other being on this planet, we have to use it to properly shape the world around us... yet we choose to waste it and destroy the world around us.
foxhound_fox

I believe in God - but let me get this straight. I dont have a issue people telling me about God, Jesus, bla bla bla whatever you want to call it. Im easy going.

But when they start forcing me and trying to shove things down my throat - i dont have a issue telling them where to go.

Pretty much like those Mormons (Morons) they really piss me off.

Look at the end of day until we have a near death experience or whatever and meet God somehow, thats when we know.

These arguments will always be neverending and cause a lot of fights, arguments and frustration.

You have just put into words, rather eloquently I might add, what I've never had the patience to say myself.

I'd be very interested to hear your personal thoughts about the prospects of faith and an afterlife. I myself am an atheist who is leaning more and more towards agnosticism. I very much doubt that there could be some all-knowing, all-powerful belevolent being that is responsible for the creation and maintainence of all that ever is, was and shall be, but I also have trouble simply believing that a massive exposion gave way to all of that either. I do not doubt that the big bang happened, but I can't help but wonder how the materials for an explosion of such magnitude came to be.

SmashBrosLegend

Who created the Moon?Wolf-avatar

Nature created the moon. More specifically, gravity created the moon.

Asking who created the moon is like asking who makes you slam into the ground at 150 MPH when you jump out of an airplane without a parachute. No one has to make you do it, it just happens because there's a thing called gravity.

I used to term myself an empirical agnostic... but now I really don't term myself anything. My beliefs about the human condition, the planet and the universe contain a bit of everything... ranging from actual religious philosophy, to existentialist philosophy, to scientific analysis and theory to even some pagan ritual beliefs.

What I believe is that there are things about the human body which can not be explained by science... at this point in time perhaps. I also believe that scientists put too much faith (oh snap!) in their beliefs. Sometimes they rely too much on the known and what they can feel, hear, see, touch and taste and not what cannot be heard, smelt, touched, seen or tasted.

As most of us know, the commonly accepted numerical term applied to our "use" of our brains is around 10%. A mass of electrically charged organic material that is far more advanced than any computer ever conceived. Something that gives both consciousness and unconsciousness to ourselves. Gives us dreams. Gives us insight. Two distinct minds of one being.

There are things that are unexplainable, either at the moment and/or most likely into infinity. As we exist right now, some of those things are impossible for our minds to comprehend. Either we must gain the ability to comprehend them or pass into a different existence to achieve the understanding.

In an over technical and roundabout fashion, I just said that yes, I do "believe" that there is an afterlife. However, I do not believe that it can or will ever be explainable or comprehensible for a human being that is "alive." We must become a different essence in order to understand the certain complexities. One of religions goals is trying to give insight into comprehending the incomprehensible. Which is a paradox.

The universe is something else entirely. We are trying to explain how it all began and yet we have a hard time understanding each other. Too much contemplative focus is put on the fantastical and not enough is put on the personal. We are beings that interact with each other... and we are incredibly advanced mentally compared with beings of the animal world... yet for the most part, we behave just like them and don't ever take full advantage of our seemingly... divine gift.foxhound_fox

That is a very well thought-out view, and I can't say that I disagree. I am often times at a loss for words when explaining my thoughts and philosophy. I also find myself incapable of doing things while I am deep in thought.

I would very much like to discuss this further with you, but not at this time. I'm procrastinating on a psychology assignment at the moment.

I haven't seen you on xfire in quite some time, and it's been a good long while since we talked. I wonder why? Is it that you are unwilling to talk, or is it that you simply don't think to log in? If I remember correctly, we've had some very thought-provoking discussions in the past, and that sort of mental stimulation excites me.
SmashBrosLegend

The fact that you go to church and give your faith to god will not determine if you go to heaven or hell its how you live your life. In my opinion people who sin and do bad things such as killing a person, then go to confessional and all sins are forgiven, thats bs. Its all going to come down to whether or not you were a good person and lived your life well not if every time you did something bad you went before a petifile priest to confess your wrongdoing does that mean you deserve to go to heaven? If you give your life to the lord by being a priest but then do all the junk that priests have been caught doing the last few years, do you honstly believe those people deserve to go to heaven or will go to heaven. If so then i would have no interest in going to heaven, i would rather sit on this earth awaiting the armageddon and watch the world go up in flames.

The fact that you go to church and give your faith to god will not determine if you go to heaven or hell its how you live your life. In my opinion people who sin and do bad things such as killing a person, then go to confessional and all sins are forgiven, thats bs. Its all going to come down to whether or not you were a good person and lived your life well not if every time you did something bad you went before a petifile priest to confess your wrongdoing does that mean you deserve to go to heaven? If you give your life to the lord by being a priest but then do all the junk that priests have been caught doing the last few years, do you honstly believe those people deserve to go to heaven or will go to heaven. If so then i would have no interest in going to heaven, i would rather sit on this earth awaiting the armageddon and watch the world go up in flames.

zeldafan00013

What do you define as sin?

Never EVER do the arguement

"Wheres proof god exists" "The bible"

its just plain stupid. What if you asked me "Proove to me god doesnt exist" and i just responded with "Look in some science books" that doesnt prove anything on either side. Also dont tell me what to beleive, if god really existed, you would have learned how to spell, and would never have made this thread.

If you give your life to the lord by being a priest but then do all the junk that priests have been caught doing the last few years... zeldafan00013

[QUOTE="Mr47fitter"]

wow your as blind as you are dumb.

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Your as dumb as you you are fat.

the two if you are dumb, it's you're, as in you are, not your >___>

I believ in him, others dont. I dont see why we argue, no one can prove either wrong.GarchomPro

because some people decde its necessary for everyone to believe what they do. :roll: it really is ridicuous. if someone doesnt want to they should follow yours and my approach and no argue...its pointless

I believe in God - but let me get this straight. I dont have a issue people telling me about God, Jesus, bla bla bla whatever you want to call it. Im easy going.

But when they start forcing me and trying to shove things down my throat - i dont have a issue telling them where to go.

Pretty much like those Mormons (Morons) they really piss me off.

Look at the end of day until we have a near death experience or whatever and meet God somehow, thats when we know.

These arguments will always be neverending and cause a lot of fights, arguments and frustration.

lionheart1981oz

When you die you gott to Heaven are hell,If you believe in god you go to Heaven,If you dont ask yourself who created us?Who created the Moon?If you wonder why there,s so many sins and bad things in the world,Look in the Bible,The Devil who was once an angle was called lucifer and he wonted to be like god,Almighty and stuff,So he was cast out of heaven and sent to hell.Then he convinced Adam and eve to commit sin and thats what brought sin into the world,But when the Rapture comes all of gods loyal disiples will dissaper and the ones that dont beieleve will have to stay on the world and live threw armageddon,And if you already died and went to hell,After the rapture god will come and you will have to bow down to him,And if you dont,You will have to be trown into the Lake of fire,The eternity of Hell!So believe in god and you will find peace,Read the bible and go to church.And all the Poeple that dissaperd will go to Heaven and live therein Paradise for eternity,Now would you rather got to hell and burn for eternity are would you prefer Heaven,Your choice,But your choice could change your fate......Wolf-avatar

Thank you for completely destroying the credibility of Christianity and once again making us look like idiots....i hope you know god will bring up this thread on judgement day.

This is laugh worthy for so many reasons. First off, I would never let an illiterate jack-ass tell me what I should believe in. Second, your proof isn't valid. You can't tell people that proof lies in a BOOK. It's explaining proof. It isn't proof. Thridly, if God created everything, then who the hell made him?HessenKnight

Your first and second points are valid, but you might want to reconsider the third.