God has a good reason why he allowed Adam and Eve to sin.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

pianist

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I approve of this idea. But it would take a heck of an effort to stop one of these juggernauts. It's like trying to stop a train with a tricycle.

What if it's a solid lead tricycle that's been melted into the ground and is surrounded by land mines and has automated TOW launchers guarding it?

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"]

God wanted to see if they love him or not! God didn't want us to be robots, So he gave them free will. To be obey or disobeyGod IMO maybe wanted them to know that he is GOD! God is the only one who can save you.

ViolentPressure

God cares about how pathetic little pieces of biological matter care about him?

He's ****ing GOD for Christ sakes. Why would he care about the opinions of little hairless apes that he created through sheer boredom? I'd like to know, really.

God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is.

• He is loving
• He is giving
• The best He can give is Himself.
• He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way.
• You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him.
• He made the universe for you.
• He created you for Him.

That's very nice and all, but that basically loops us around, once again, to what I was just asking: why does he care? Again, he's all powerful and omnipotent, why should he care about our opinions when he "hand-crafted us from the womb"?

You're lucky you didn't grow up in a Catholic orphanage, the nuns would lynch you for that kind of thinking.

Very lucky indeed.

What if it's a solid lead tricycle that's been melted into the ground and is surrounded by land mines and has automated TOW launchers guarding it?

Blood-Scribe

:lol:

The solid lead was good for the lols, and the land mines were the icing on the cake.

[QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]You know, Jesus died for your sins, if you don't sin, then he died for nothin!-Jiggles-

Seems like Jesus cares for our sins more than he does us.

????????????

All throughout my catholic youth, I've been told that Jesus has died for our sins. I always accepted this and never really questioned it. Through thinking over time, though, it's made me wonder.

Why didn't Jesus die for US, not our sins? By Jesus dying for our sins, it gives me the feeling that he cares about us obeying him and/or his father more than he does caring for ourselves. It seems to me like God is more intent on pleasing himself and making himself feel even more high & mighty than before (which is pointless, because he's "omnipotent").

[QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"]

God wanted to see if they love him or not! God didn't want us to be robots, So he gave them free will. To be obey or disobeyGod IMO maybe wanted them to know that he is GOD! God is the only one who can save you.

-Jiggles-

God cares about how pathetic little pieces of biological matter care about him?

He's ****ing GOD for Christ sakes. Why would he care about the opinions of little hairless apes that he created through sheer boredom? I'd like to know, really.

God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is.

• He is loving
• He is giving
• The best He can give is Himself.
• He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way.
• You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him.
• He made the universe for you.
• He created you for Him.

That's very nice and all, but that basically loops us around, once again, to what I was just asking: why does he care? Again, he's all powerful and omnipotent, why should he care about our opinions when he "hand-crafted us from the womb"?

God want us to live forever in the kingdom of haven! Jesus die for us! don't you know that!? We will be in HEll right now if it wasn't for Jesus. He die for us! So we can be forgivien & have everlasting Life!

[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"][QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"]

Being a homosexual is like you, except it DOES include the "you" part

generic_user512

:lol:

Tough day in middle school, chief? Don't worry - you'll always have your Linkin Park.

Tough day at the asylum?

And here I was expecting a witty reply. You were on such a roll tonight. For shame.

At least im not black

Oh... I'm going to stay and watch this.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

pianist

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I approve of this idea. But it would take a heck of an effort to stop one of these juggernauts. It's like trying to stop a train with a tricycle.

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"]

God wanted to see if they love him or not! God didn't want us to be robots, So he gave them free will. To be obey or disobeyGod IMO maybe wanted them to know that he is GOD! God is the only one who can save you.

ItalyCanadian9

God cares about how pathetic little pieces of biological matter care about him?

He's ****ing GOD for Christ sakes. Why would he care about the opinions of little hairless apes that he created through sheer boredom? I'd like to know, really.

God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is.

• He is loving
• He is giving
• The best He can give is Himself.
• He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way.
• You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him.
• He made the universe for you.
• He created you for Him.

That's very nice and all, but that basically loops us around, once again, to what I was just asking: why does he care? Again, he's all powerful and omnipotent, why should he care about our opinions when he "hand-crafted us from the womb"?

God want us to live forever in the kingdom of haven! Jesus die for us! don't you know that!? We will be in HEll right now if it wasn't for Jesus. He die for us! So we can be forgivien & have everlasting Life!

You're missing the point, though. Why does God CARE? He is the most powerful being in the universe, so why does it matter to him that something so puny in comparison to him shows respect for him or not? Especially considering that we're not perfect (supposedly he made us that way), why would somebody with a bad mental mindset be condemned to a burning afterlife in Hell? It doesn't add up to me.

[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

Meh___Guy

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I approve of this idea. But it would take a heck of an effort to stop one of these juggernauts. It's like trying to stop a train with a tricycle.

Maybe we should make kamikaze alt accounts designed to spam these threads into hell to the point where they get locked. I'm willing to go that far just to keep boring threads like this from recurring every day.

[QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

Blood-Scribe

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I'll join the unit! =D

[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"][QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"]

Being a homosexual is like you, except it DOES include the "you" part

generic_user512

:lol:

Tough day in middle school, chief? Don't worry - you'll always have your Linkin Park.

Tough day at the asylum?

And here I was expecting a witty reply. You were on such a roll tonight. For shame.

At least im not black

Okay screw the discussion this is a far more interesting discussion.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

brightshadow525

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I'll join the unit! =D

We're going to need to organize a recruiting program. We'll even make it a draft if we have to.

[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="pianist"]

:lol:

I think we've succeeded in totally de-railing this religion topic.

Meh___Guy

We should do this to every religion topic to ensure that the boards don't get clogged up with boring topics that go on for more than 20 pages. We could be like a special dispatch unit designed to maintain the sanity of the OT board.

I approve of this idea. But it would take a heck of an effort to stop one of these juggernauts. It's like trying to stop a train with a tricycle.

You mean like you just did?

[QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"]

God wanted to see if they love him or not! God didn't want us to be robots, So he gave them free will. To be obey or disobeyGod IMO maybe wanted them to know that he is GOD! God is the only one who can save you.

-Jiggles-

God cares about how pathetic little pieces of biological matter care about him?

He's ****ing GOD for Christ sakes. Why would he care about the opinions of little hairless apes that he created through sheer boredom? I'd like to know, really.

God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is.

• He is loving
• He is giving
• The best He can give is Himself.
• He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way.
• You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him.
• He made the universe for you.
• He created you for Him.

That's very nice and all, but that basically loops us around, once again, to what I was just asking: why does he care? Again, he's all powerful and omnipotent, why should he care about our opinions when he "hand-crafted us from the womb"?

God want us to live forever in the kingdom of haven! Jesus die for us! don't you know that!? We will be in HEll right now if it wasn't for Jesus. He die for us! So we can be forgivien & have everlasting Life!

You're missing the point, though. Why does God CARE? He is the most powerful being in the universe, so why does it matter to him that something so puny in comparison to him shows respect for him or not? Especially considering that we're not perfect (supposedly he made us that way), why would somebody with a bad mental mindset be condemned to a burning afterlife in Hell? It doesn't add up to me.

Only God knows! I think someone know.

At least im not black

generic_user512

I understand that being yellow is indeed far easier. What's your real username?

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]You know, Jesus died for your sins, if you don't sin, then he died for nothin!ItalyCanadian9

Seems like Jesus cares for our sins more than he does us.

????????????

Yes you can get your HD channels for free with my new cable service "Dave's old fashioned cable service ultra deluxe supreme"(I assume that is what you are asking)

No

I can provide you with On demand channels of your favorite channels and we offer many channel packages. We have a buy one channel package(such as all hbo channels;including the on demand service) and you get one channel package free deal. Buy now and you will recive a rebate for 10 movies on demand. So do you want it now?(I assume your no was a refusal of my service)

[QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"]

God wanted to see if they love him or not! God didn't want us to be robots, So he gave them free will. To be obey or disobeyGod IMO maybe wanted them to know that he is GOD! God is the only one who can save you.

-Jiggles-

God cares about how pathetic little pieces of biological matter care about him?

He's ****ing GOD for Christ sakes. Why would he care about the opinions of little hairless apes that he created through sheer boredom? I'd like to know, really.

God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is.

• He is loving
• He is giving
• The best He can give is Himself.
• He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way.
• You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him.
• He made the universe for you.
• He created you for Him.

That's very nice and all, but that basically loops us around, once again, to what I was just asking: why does he care? Again, he's all powerful and omnipotent, why should he care about our opinions when he "hand-crafted us from the womb"?

God want us to live forever in the kingdom of haven! Jesus die for us! don't you know that!? We will be in HEll right now if it wasn't for Jesus. He die for us! So we can be forgivien & have everlasting Life!

You're missing the point, though. Why does God CARE? He is the most powerful being in the universe, so why does it matter to him that something so puny in comparison to him shows respect for him or not? Especially considering that we're not perfect (supposedly he made us that way), why would somebody with a bad mental mindset be condemned to a burning afterlife in Hell? It doesn't add up to me.

[QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ItalyCanadian9"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]You know, Jesus died for your sins, if you don't sin, then he died for nothin!dave123321

Seems like Jesus cares for our sins more than he does us.

????????????

Yes you can get your HD channels for free with my new cable service "Dave's old fashioned cable service ultra deluxe supreme"(I assume that is what you are asking)

No

I can provide you with On demand channels of your favorite channels and we offer many channel packages. We have a buy one channel package(such as all hbo channels;including the on demand service) and you get one channel package free deal. Buy now and you will recive a rebate for 10 movies on demand. So do you want it now?(I assume your no was a refusal of my service)

Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross. Meh___Guy

This is all about symbols. The SNAKE told Eve to eat the APPLE, which is the symbole of the KNOWLEDGE, which is pretty much why we are superior mentally to animals and thus becoming the dominant of the planet, and the same apple is the reason why God, The Creator, kicked them out of the "garden". All about symbols

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"] Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross. DrCoCoPiMp

This is all about symbols. The SNAKE told Eve to eat the APPLE, which is the symbole of the KNOWLEDGE, which is pretty much why we are superior mentally to animals and thus becoming the dominant of the planet, and the same apple is the reason why God, The Creator, kicked them out of the "garden". All about symbols

Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross. Meh___Guy

"Hey guys! Don't eat the fruit from that tree, allright? Yeah... Out of all the trees and magical stuff here, don't eat from that one." "But why God? =[ " "'Cuz I said so. It's my tree. Not yours. Now go do something else."

Eve: "... Hey, this snake told me to do it, Adam. Let's eat from that tree." Adam: "Sure thing!"

God: "OMG YOU EAT FROM MY TREE! SINNAR!!!! BANNED!!!"

Point: Why was it a sin to eat from the tree? Because God told them so? Well... why did God tell them that? Because he wanted to lay a trap for them, so they could sin, so then he could kick them out?

... I'm confused

Clearly God allowed sin to enter the world so you could use the recreational drugs that led to the creation of this topic.pianist

:lol: owned. God let all humans sin...

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"] Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross. criinok

"Hey guys! Don't eat the fruit from that tree, allright? Yeah... Out of all the trees and magical stuff here, don't eat from that one." "But why God? =[ " "'Cuz I said so. It's my tree. Not yours. Now go do something else."

Eve: "... Hey, this snake told me to do it, Adam. Let's eat from that tree." Adam: "Sure thing!"

God: "OMG YOU EAT FROM MY TREE! SINNAR!!!! BANNED!!!"

Point: Why was it a sin to eat from the tree? Because God told them so? Well... why did God tell them that? Because he wanted to lay a trap for them, so they could sin, so then he could kick them out?

... I'm confused

God didn't trick Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit.

God has a good reason why he allowed Adam and Eve a choice to eat the fruit. I don't understand why, but soon we will.

I mean it didn't only suffering human kind, but if also brought suffering God. Jesus had the choice to die on the cross for man and he did. If he didn't allow Adam and Eve to have a choice to eat the fruit he would not have to die on the cross for sure.

Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross.Meh___Guy

By that logic, God wanted his son to die. Isn't that a bit cruel? And if there wasn't sin, Jesus would've had a pretty good life by that logic. This brings up the problem of evil: he cannot have omnipotence and unconditional love. The two ideas do not agree when mixed together.

God didn't trick Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit.

Meh___Guy

he didn't tell them what would happen if they ate the fruit, though. that was deceiving.

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"]

God didn't trick Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit.

Hewkii

he didn't tell them what would happen if they ate the fruit, though. that was deceiving.

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"] Sure God allowed Adam and Eve to sin, but it was their choice. I don't know why God gave them a choice to be eat the fruit, but God did not do it, so people can disobey him and rape people and stuff. I mean first of all when sin came in the world Jesus had a choice to die on the cross, he did not have to, but he did. But if sin wasn't in the world, then he there would be no need for him die on the cross.Video_Game_King

By that logic, God wanted his son to die. Isn't that a bit cruel? And if there wasn't sin, Jesus would've had a pretty good life by that logic. This brings up the problem of evil: he cannot have omnipotence and unconditional love. The two ideas do not agree when mixed together.

[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"][QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="generic_user512"]

Being a homosexual is like you, except it DOES include the "you" part

generic_user512

:lol:

Tough day in middle school, chief? Don't worry - you'll always have your Linkin Park.

Tough day at the asylum?

And here I was expecting a witty reply. You were on such a roll tonight. For shame.

At least im not black

See, this is why I don't believe in a god. There's no WAY any intelligent being can create an individual like this. People like this HAVE to be a great cosmic mistake. A couple lead molecules too many in his brain or something ;)

See, this is why I don't believe in a god. There's no WAY any intelligent being can create an individual like this. People like this HAVE to be a great cosmic mistake. A couple lead molecules too many in his brain or something ;)

nosferatu

He's just an alt account that thinks he's hilarious for quoting family guy and trolling in random threads because he's got nothing else to do. Don't mind him.

"It's all about... choice."

supercubedude64

Insert Ryan Davis giggle here. ;)

the world is like a combination of spore and civilization to god. dont question the guy's use of his spare eternity.

I'm still at awe as to how an almighty, powerful god could get so pissy over somebody eating an apple.

-Jiggles-

Bible = 1 giant metaphor

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"]

God didn't trick Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit.

Hewkii

he didn't tell them what would happen if they ate the fruit, though. that was deceiving.

Its not. If they listened to God, sin wouldn't happen.

Its not. If they listened to God, sin wouldn't happen.

Meh___Guy

they did, at first. God just made them trust too much.