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I think he will do a great job on this. Thoughts?
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Official story here. http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=c4fe9cef-bd34-436a-9144-ae73e4ba1c69&entry=index
I think he will do a great job on this. Thoughts?
Thats the guy from Pan's and Hellboy right? He has a very specific art direction in every movie ive seen of his...I can already picture what it will look like.DarKre
It's true that he has a certain...art style. If he's not in charge of makeup/costuming, then it'll be fine.
And as long as Guillermo navarro is on board. He's incredible.
[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.Choga
The Devil's backbone
Pan's Labyrinth
Hellboy
The Orphanage
Oh lord. Why is this man directing The Hobbit then? Should have let Peter Jackson do it...
Peter jackson was good. He did a great job with the trilogy.
The Guillermos are every bit his equal in skill.
Plus, even if you don't like hellboy, and i certainly didn't, Peter jackson has gems like Heavenly Creatures and King Kong under his belt as well.
[QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.Theempire30
Pan's Labyrinth...nuff said.
Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
[QUOTE="Theempire30"][QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.Choga
Pan's Labyrinth...nuff said.
Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well, consider Hellboy was a graphic novel brought to screen, and Pan's was Del Toro's own vision and work. If there's one thing that worries me, it's Gollum. Will they use the same dude as before and the same look there, or something different?
Plus, Jackson will produce, and there's no way he'll let too large a gap come between his old styles and Del Toro's styles. No way he's alienate such a huge audience.
Well Jackson set the "visual bar" with the LotR series. I think Guillermo would alienate a lot of fans if he deviated wildly from the art style presented in Jackson's series.Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Choga
I'm sure he'll put his own visual stylings on the movie, but they won't be too over the top
[QUOTE="Choga"]Well Jackson set the "visual bar" with the LotR series. I think Guillermo would alienate a lot of fans if he deviated wildly from the art style presented in Jackson's series.Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
blooddemon666
I'm sure he'll put his own visual stylings on the movie, but they won't be too over the top
Well I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Tolkien movies. I was **** about alot of things in the LOTR movies :lol:
I just hope he doesn't stray too far from Jackson's example. Either way, I will be at the midnight showing.
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Theempire30"][QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.Lockedge
Pan's Labyrinth...nuff said.
Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well, consider Hellboy was a graphic novel brought to screen, and Pan's was Del Toro's own vision and work. If there's one thing that worries me, it's Gollum. Will they use the same dude as before and the same look there, or something different?
Plus, Jackson will produce, and there's no way he'll let too large a gap come between his old styles and Del Toro's styles. No way he's alienate such a huge audience.
i promise and swear this-if gollum is not the same guy i WILL NOT WATCH IT>. :cry:
Official story here. http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=c4fe9cef-bd34-436a-9144-ae73e4ba1c69&entry=index
I think he will do a great job on this. Thoughts?
Theempire30
Absolutely marvelous. The Hobbit is one of my favorite books, and I am confident that del Toro will craft its big screen adaptation appropriately.
[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Theempire30"][QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.kirk4ever
Pan's Labyrinth...nuff said.
Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well, consider Hellboy was a graphic novel brought to screen, and Pan's was Del Toro's own vision and work. If there's one thing that worries me, it's Gollum. Will they use the same dude as before and the same look there, or something different?
Plus, Jackson will produce, and there's no way he'll let too large a gap come between his old styles and Del Toro's styles. No way he's alienate such a huge audience.
i promise and swear this-if gollum is not the same guy i WILL NOT WATCH IT>. :cry:
Keep in mind, Gollum would have been a tad different looking back then(as Bilbo was just a young hobbit). I wouldn't mind if they took a liberty or two and tweaked his look to fit with how he was portrayed in the book. In the trilogy, they succeeded in making him seem pitiful and much like a prisoner. In The Hobbit, he was something different. I'd prefer something close, but not the same.
[QUOTE="kirk4ever"][QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Theempire30"][QUOTE="Choga"]Im not familiar with any of his work.Lockedge
Pan's Labyrinth...nuff said.
Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy are very over-the-top with their art styles. The Hobbit is extremely different. I don't know if this guy can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well, consider Hellboy was a graphic novel brought to screen, and Pan's was Del Toro's own vision and work. If there's one thing that worries me, it's Gollum. Will they use the same dude as before and the same look there, or something different?
Plus, Jackson will produce, and there's no way he'll let too large a gap come between his old styles and Del Toro's styles. No way he's alienate such a huge audience.
i promise and swear this-if gollum is not the same guy i WILL NOT WATCH IT>. :cry:
Keep in mind, Gollum would have been a tad different looking back then(as Bilbo was just a young hobbit). I wouldn't mind if they took a liberty or two and tweaked his look to fit with how he was portrayed in the book. In the trilogy, they succeeded in making him seem pitiful and much like a prisoner. In The Hobbit, he was something different. I'd prefer something close, but not the same.
In the Hobbit, he was a legitimate villain, but we also start to pity him shortly after he is introduced to us.
anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. Choga
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. Choga
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. Choga
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
except you seem to be interpretting scenes in the book wrong way. its a laid back adventure to match a laid back main character. however, i do think del toro will do a great job of bringing out the sense of wonder in tolkien's vision.
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
except you seem to be interpretting scenes in the book wrong way. its a laid back adventure to match a laid back main character. however, i do think del toro will do a great job of bringing out the sense of wonder in tolkien's vision.
The last time I read it was a year or two ago, I'm going to give it another read these next few days.
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. Choga
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
except you seem to be interpretting scenes in the book wrong way. its a laid back adventure to match a laid back main character. however, i do think del toro will do a great job of bringing out the sense of wonder in tolkien's vision.
The last time I read it was a year or two ago, I'm going to give it another read these next few days.
it is a book worthy of multiple reads :P
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
except you seem to be interpretting scenes in the book wrong way. its a laid back adventure to match a laid back main character. however, i do think del toro will do a great job of bringing out the sense of wonder in tolkien's vision.
The last time I read it was a year or two ago, I'm going to give it another read these next few days.
it is a book worthy of multiple reads :P
Yea this will be my third.
[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]anybody else worried that he might make the hobbit too dark? yes, del toro's movies are amazing. however, they tend to be dark. and if you read any of the hobbit, you would know that it is a light hearted novel. LoG-Sacrament
That is true, but some scenes in The Hobbit are quite dark. For example, the whole episode in Mirkwood is very dark and bleak.
not really. it doesnt have the sense of dread from the trilogy(weight of bearing the ring, whole world in the balance, etc.). and the most well known scenes are quite whimsical. trolls get talked to death and bilbo battles gollum with riddles.
Well when Bilbo is trapped within the Goblins' den, it is literally dark. And Mirkwood may not be as dreadful as certain parts of the trilogy, but it has a grimness all its own. However I am skeptical of Del Toro's ability to do this book justice, because a few "dark" scenes != a "dark" story.
im not talking about the amount of black shades in the film. for instance, in the movie "a clockwork orange", alex is in a white room singing the song "singing in the rain" while raping a woman. its still a dark subject matter.
old mickey mouse cartoons had a lot of black in them. they werent particularly dark...
I understood what you meant, but I was trying to say that Del Toro's style could possibly accentuate certain scenes in the book.
except you seem to be interpretting scenes in the book wrong way. its a laid back adventure to match a laid back main character. however, i do think del toro will do a great job of bringing out the sense of wonder in tolkien's vision.
I think the key to this is the sense of wonder in the book. Grasping, visually, the experience of seeing the world for the first time. Portraying Bilbo's every moment of joy, of doubt, of concern, of curiosity.
Del Toro is good at dark, mystical films. The Hobbit may not be all that dark, but it's something I always imagined Del Tro to be able to do very well.
I think the key to this is the sense of wonder in the book. Grasping, visually, the experience of seeing the world for the first time. Portraying Bilbo's every moment of joy, of doubt, of concern, of curiosity.
Del Toro is good at dark, mystical films. The Hobbit may not be all that dark, but it's something I always imagined Del Tro to be able to do very well.Lockedge
yes, the sense of wonder will be very important. however, the hobbit is a whimsical tale and i havent seen anything like that from del toro. but, hey, hes a talented director so maybe hes got something more up his sleeve.
del Toro is a genius - such is his brilliance that his Spanish-language film had a greater impact on me than any English-language film ever - no exaggeration...
As for who will play Gollum - del Toro used Doug Jones on Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth for all the motion capture with great success. However, it would be a faux pas to ditch Serkis as he is one of the inseperable images from the orignal screen LotR...
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