Gun control is pointless and makes no sense.....

The ONLY reason why people want to ban firearms is because they are naive and have no knowledge or experience with them. They view the gun as being "evil" when all it really is is just an object. Can it do harm? yes it can, but guess what so can alot of other objects too such as kitchen knives, alcohol (although technically not an object but still), cars etc...

The gun control argument is based more on emotion rather than logicand a refusal to take responsiblity and deal with the real issue. By blaming the gun you might aswell also blame movies, viloent video games for "corruptiong the youth", the bible, alchohol, music etc...IT DOESEN'T STOP, and banning ANYTHING just makes it worse. By banning firearms all your doing is taking the guns out of peacful law-abiding citizens and just creating an even bigger black market for criminals. You see children.... criminals (you know the bad guys that kill people) will ALWAYS have access to fire arms NO MATTER WHAT, and guess what, the people that committhe crime are CRIMINALS!

Ask yourself this gun control people, if someone gave YOU a gun would you suddenly rob a bank with it? Would you start a shooting spree? Would the gun "make" you commit acts of violence? No you say, well why not? Because your a good person who has good values and the gun is just an object.

I encourage ANYONE who wants to institute a national gun ban to ACTUALLY talk to someone who has firearms and ask to go to the gun range. I have several firearms and I know how to store them safely as well as operate them, and the majority of civilain owned handguns are NOT used in crimes but instead to stop and protect themselves and loved ones from criminals.

If somebody said they wanted to ban video games what would you say to them? To be a parent and don't let your kids play them but don't take away my right to. When Fox News said Mass Effect was an interactive pornographic simulator what was your response? That they never even played it and have no knowledge of video games at all and they're just looking for a scapegoat for society's problems.

That's all gun control really is about, a SCAPEGOAT. The ONLY gun control we do need is to keep criminals away from them and make sure people with mental instabilities are not allowed to own them either, everyone else is A-OK.

I WILL DEFEND THE RIGHT BEAR ARMS WITH MY LIFE

Yep I'll agree with that.Solid_Snake325

You have sense, that's why

Gun control can take a wide variety of forms. Banning is an extreme measure. Waiting periods, criminal records checks, etc are also part of what can be described as gun control and those measures make a whole lotta sense.

You might not realise it, but there are some gun laws in effect. You can't legally own a artillery motor.

You're responsible with your guns, good for you. But believe it or not, some people aren't.

I think that's a generalization as to why some people want gun control. By the way...gun control does exist. It's not the same as banning guns. Some countries are quite happy with guns not being common.LJS9502_basic

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

I don't know of a country without gun control...

I don't know of a country without gun control...

BuryMe

Switzerland has almost no gun control and they have one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think that's a generalization as to why some people want gun control. By the way...gun control does exist. It's not the same as banning guns. Some countries are quite happy with guns not being common.ShadowMoses900

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think that's a generalization as to why some people want gun control. By the way...gun control does exist. It's not the same as banning guns. Some countries are quite happy with guns not being common.LJS9502_basic

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

No, your right wrong of me to make assumptions sorry.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

ShadowMoses900

No, your right wrong of me to make assumptions sorry.

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

ShadowMoses900

Yep, look at those crime rates skyrocket. LANYC :|

I'd rather be stabed than shot.

Sure they will still do violent stuff without a gun, but a crazy guy with a gun is more dangerous than a crazy guy with a kife

I don't think guns should be banned outright. But I do think the ban on assault rifles should be reinstated. What possible use could someone have for these other than to kill lots of people? I also think there should be a push towards electronic RFID locks on new guns.ThePlothole

Assault rifles were always banned to begin with, your thinking of assault weapon which is actually different. The assault weapon bann basically bans anygun that has a certain magazine size etc... an assault weapon DOES NOT mean full auto.

Gun control can take a wide variety of forms. Banning is an extreme measure. Waiting periods, criminal records checks, etc are also part of what can be described as gun control and those measures make a whole lotta sense.

SUD123456

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Gun control can take a wide variety of forms. Banning is an extreme measure. Waiting periods, criminal records checks, etc are also part of what can be described as gun control and those measures make a whole lotta sense.

gameguy6700

Yes you understand what I'm trying to say, I might not be trying to get my message across right.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Are you sure you know my stance on gun ownership?LJS9502_basic

No, your right wrong of me to make assumptions sorry.

Again I apoligize for making assumptions, but sometimes I don't think I get my message across right so I think people are misinterpiting it.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

I don't know of a country without gun control...

ShadowMoses900

Switzerland has almost no gun control and they have one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

Gun control/no gun control has nothing to do with Switzerland's crime rate.

Switzerland is nothing like America.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]I don't think guns should be banned outright. But I do think the ban on assault rifles should be reinstated. What possible use could someone have for these other than to kill lots of people? I also think there should be a push towards electronic RFID locks on new guns.ShadowMoses900

Assault rifles were always banned to begin with, your thinking of assault weapon which is actually different. The assault weapon bann basically bans anygun that has a certain magazine size etc... an assault weapon DOES NOT mean full auto.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]I don't think guns should be banned outright. But I do think the ban on assault rifles should be reinstated. What possible use could someone have for these other than to kill lots of people? I also think there should be a push towards electronic RFID locks on new guns.ThePlothole

Assault rifles were always banned to begin with, your thinking of assault weapon which is actually different. The assault weapon bann basically bans anygun that has a certain magazine size etc... an assault weapon DOES NOT mean full auto.

Ok I will give you that one, also I guess I sort of misposted, what I'm actually talking about is a gun bann and SOME gun control policies. Like I don't really think people should be allowed to purchase bullet proof peircing rounds because your not really ever going to use those unless if your a criminal who is going to shoot cops or something etc..

What I'm talking about are gun control policies that try to limit how much ammo you can buy and stopping people from carrying concealedor making guns harder to obtain legally that kind of stuff which is basically banning guns without using the word "ban" because they sneak in the word gun "control" instead.

I actually oppose stringent gun control, but the whole argument that "guns don't kill people; people do" never caught my fancy. It may technically be true, but in that case, let's legalize personal possession of atom bombs. I mean, come on. We need some limits. Myself, I think drawing the line at fully automatic battle rifles is just about right, but it's not clear cut issue.Elraptor

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Gun control can take a wide variety of forms. Banning is an extreme measure. Waiting periods, criminal records checks, etc are also part of what can be described as gun control and those measures make a whole lotta sense.

gameguy6700

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't think it's a generalization, and yes I do know that gun control and gun banns are not the same, but it's still the path that the pro gun control crowd eventuallly wants. And those gun banns in those countries havn't done anything about stopping guns, they still smuggle them and there jsut as common if you know who to talk to. And then you have places like Los Angeles and New York which have VERY strict gun control policies and yet the crime rate there is through the roof.

On another note this is really the only time I find myself in disagreement with you, but I like your posts because they make sense. Even if I disagree wtith this one :lol:

PBSnipes

Yep, look at those crime rates skyrocket. LANYC :|

I like how this was ignored. :lol:

I don't think guns should be banned outright. But I do think the ban on assault rifles should be reinstated. What possible use could someone have for these other than to kill lots of people? I also think there should be a push towards electronic RFID locks on new guns.ThePlothole

That bill didn't do anything except ban minor cosmetic features on some rifles and ban outright some rifles that looked scary. There has never been any correlation between the Federal assault weapons ban and crime rates. Why would you want to erode civil liberties for no good reason?

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Gun control can take a wide variety of forms. Banning is an extreme measure. Waiting periods, criminal records checks, etc are also part of what can be described as gun control and those measures make a whole lotta sense.

gameguy6700

Your analysis is overly simplistic at best.

Waiting periods aren't just for criminals. Waiting periods are for everyday people who have snapped and are about to commit an irrational act.

Criminal records checks/background checks weed out some weirdos and some petty criminals. Contrary to your belief there are many places where guns aren't sold out of the back ofa car on every street corner.

Moreover a measure does not have to be 100% effective to be useful. Obviously those measures aren't going to stop someone who is determined from acquiring a gun illegally. But saying those measures fail is like sayingwhy bother locking your house or car, when someone can easily break the window? In both cases it won't stop a determined person, but it will weed out some people.

The ONLY reason why people want to ban firearms is because they are naive and have no knowledge or experience with them. They view the gun as being "evil" when all it really is is just an object. Can it do harm? yes it can, but guess what so can alot of other objects too such as kitchen knives, alcohol (although technically not an object but still), cars etc...

The gun control argument is based more on emotion rather than logicand a refusal to take responsiblity and deal with the real issue. By blaming the gun you might aswell also blame movies, viloent video games for "corruptiong the youth", the bible, alchohol, music etc...IT DOESEN'T STOP, and banning ANYTHING just makes it worse. By banning firearms all your doing is taking the guns out of peacful law-abiding citizens and just creating an even bigger black market for criminals. You see children.... criminals (you know the bad guys that kill people) will ALWAYS have access to fire arms NO MATTER WHAT, and guess what, the people that committhe crime are CRIMINALS!

Ask yourself this gun control people, if someone gave YOU a gun would you suddenly rob a bank with it? Would you start a shooting spree? Would the gun "make" you commit acts of violence? No you say, well why not? Because your a good person who has good values and the gun is just an object.

I encourage ANYONE who wants to institute a national gun ban to ACTUALLY talk to someone who has firearms and ask to go to the gun range. I have several firearms and I know how to store them safely as well as operate them, and the majority of civilain owned handguns are NOT used in crimes but instead to stop and protect themselves and loved ones from criminals.

If somebody said they wanted to ban video games what would you say to them? To be a parent and don't let your kids play them but don't take away my right to. When Fox News said Mass Effect was an interactive pornographic simulator what was your response? That they never even played it and have no knowledge of video games at all and they're just looking for a scapegoat for society's problems.

That's all gun control really is about, a SCAPEGOAT. The ONLY gun control we do need is to keep criminals away from them and make sure people with mental instabilities are not allowed to own them either, everyone else is A-OK.

I WILL DEFEND THE RIGHT BEAR ARMS WITH MY LIFE

ShadowMoses900

Still, why would you possibly need so many bullets at once?ThePlothole

1. Superior firepower

2. Convenience

3. Fun

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I actually oppose stringent gun control, but the whole argument that "guns don't kill people; people do" never caught my fancy. It may technically be true, but in that case, let's legalize personal possession of atom bombs. I mean, come on. We need some limits. Myself, I think drawing the line at fully automatic battle rifles is just about right, but it's not clear cut issue.gameguy6700

It's stupid because if somebody wants to kill someone and doesn't have a gun, there are still a million other ways to kill a person.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Assault rifles were always banned to begin with, your thinking of assault weapon which is actually different. The assault weapon bann basically bans anygun that has a certain magazine size etc... an assault weapon DOES NOT mean full auto.thegerg

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Only reason gun control doesn't make sense is that it doesn't really work. Kinda like criminalized drugs.thegerg

Kind of a big difference.

I can kill you with poisons, a car, a knife, my bare hands, a pillow, tons of stuff...

Let's also ban cars while we are at it. Sure most people will use them right, but somebody will use it to run down somebody. That's far to dangerous, we need to ban them right now.

I see TC has made an incredibly convincing argument to emotion there...

Legitimate arguments can be made against some forms of gun control and concealed weapons laws, not the least of which is that empirically they do not appear to be effective. TC you might want to try making one of these arguments, you're not going to convince anyone with your OP.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Elraptor"]I actually oppose stringent gun control, but the whole argument that "guns don't kill people; people do" never caught my fancy. It may technically be true, but in that case, let's legalize personal possession of atom bombs. I mean, come on. We need some limits. Myself, I think drawing the line at fully automatic battle rifles is just about right, but it's not clear cut issue.Elraptor

Meh, too inefficient. Just use a tank, it gets the job done and saves you all the unnecessary hiking around.

I'm totally for people being allowed to own pistols, shotguns and semi-auto rifles, but there is no reason at all for somebody to own a machine gun of any type.

Honesly all ur doing is potentially endangering others and broadcasting the size of ur genitals being for having extremely dangerous guns legalized.