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#1 Ingenemployee
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dun dun dun another one bites the dust

Good news, New Hampshire gov signed a bill today that allows gay and lesbian couples to marry.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/03/nh-governor-signs-same-sex-marriage-into-law/

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#2 Pirate700
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Great?

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#3 duxup
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Good for them.
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#4 battlefront23
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I am neutral about this. I believe gays should be allowed to get married, but I do think it is morally wrong.

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#5 Teenaged
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I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

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#6 -Sun_Tzu-
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It's nice to see that states have now begun to allow gay marriage through legislation.
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#7 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

Teenaged
It's icky!
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#8 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

Yeah,thats what it always becomes. Glad I am watching E3 to be honest.....
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#9 battlefront23
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I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

Teenaged
Apparently you failed to see how I wasn't inflammatory at all. :roll:
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#10 chessmaster1989
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Good for NH. :)
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#11 bededog
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Good for New Hemisphere, but we still have 44 states to go.
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#12 Legendaryscmt
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Whatever shuts them up and makes them happy.

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#13 logos12thman
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I would be lying if I said I cared

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#14 Bourbons3
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Looking on Wikipedia, there are a lot of states with same-sex marriage/civil unions under consideration. I'm hoping for another 5 states to enact one of the two by the end of the year.
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#15 Masterdj1992
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You would get this story from Communist News Network....
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#16 awsss
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Meh.

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You would get this story from Communist News Network....Masterdj1992
You see, CNN starts with a C, so instead of "cable", he put "communist". Cue riotous laughter.

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#18 chessmaster1989
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You would get this story from Communist News Network....Masterdj1992

That failed on so many levels...

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#19 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

battlefront23

Apparently you failed to see how I wasn't inflammatory at all. :roll:

No no no that is not referring to you. A thread about homosexuality might start with the best of intentions but be sure it will lead to endless futile debates (I didnt say it would be a flame-war anyway).

PS: And I wasnt referring to your post.

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#20 FastNorwegian
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Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.
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Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.FastNorwegian

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

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#22 --Anna--
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Well, good for NH.

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#23 Severed_Hand
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Cool story bro! i wonder how many more states will follow
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#24 Link256
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... And yet, the sky is not falling? Say is not so! :o

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#25 FastNorwegian
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[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"]Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.chessmaster1989

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.
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#26 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I now declare this thread, suitable to hold "civilised" discussion on why homosexuality is immoral...

Proceed.

Teenaged

Apparently you failed to see how I wasn't inflammatory at all. :roll:

No no no that is not referring to you. A thread about homosexuality might start with the best of intentions but be sure it will lead to endless futile debates (I didnt say it would be a flame-war anyway).

PS: And I wasnt referring to your post.

Yeah I know. I'm sorry for assuming you were referring to me.
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#27 awesomeray
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Whatever shuts them up and makes them happy.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"]Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.FastNorwegian

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.

There are plenty of heterosexual married couples that are unable to reproduce...
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#29 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"]Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.FastNorwegian

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.

You're right! And, in addition, men and women should not be allowed to marry unless they reproduce. Oh, and, of course, I forgot, its not possible for two men to love each other-they must just be looking for benefits!

:roll:

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#30 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"] Apparently you failed to see how I wasn't inflammatory at all. :roll:battlefront23

No no no that is not referring to you. A thread about homosexuality might start with the best of intentions but be sure it will lead to endless futile debates (I didnt say it would be a flame-war anyway).

PS: And I wasnt referring to your post.

Yeah I know. I'm sorry for assuming you were referring to me.

No problem. Those things happen in forums.

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[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"] I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.

I agree, but I do believe they should have the liberty to get married. I do, however, think that homosexual love and heterosexual love are not the same and are not equal.
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#32 AngelofDeath213
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You're right! And, in addition, men and women should not be allowed to marry unless they reproduce. Oh, and, of course, I forgot, its not possible for two men to love each other-they must just be looking for benefits!

:roll:

chessmaster1989

Marriage isn't about love...

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"]Oh great, :roll: just a more lack-of-manliness in the world :lol: I joke, I joke, as much as I disagree, it is stated in the Bill of Rights, not clearly, but generally, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to get married.FastNorwegian

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.

traditionally speaking, in a more religous sense marriage is between a man and a woman period. (im atheist btw). HOWEVER the government decided at some point in time that those who should become legally bound by marriage get benefits (certain tax breaks and what not). by doing this they must offer the same rights to all those who get married. meaning they have to let same sex couples marry. a civil union is not always recognized and is not in any way an alternative.

basicly good on you NH. this is not loopholing. this is people wanting to love and being aforded that same recognition of their love as every other human being is entitled to. (needing a legal document to let people know that you love is still strange to me though.)

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... And yet, the sky is not falling? Say is not so! :o

Link256
Don't worry the sky will open and fire and brimstone will rain down on those hellions! :P
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#35 majoras_wrath
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This thread has hope of staying debate free. I hope. I thinks that's really cool. I can really see this domino effect rippling throughout the states.
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#36 blackacidevil96
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This thread has hope of staying debate free. I hope. I thinks that's really cool. I can really see this domino effect rippling throughout the states.majoras_wrath

debate should always be encouraged! arguments are a different story....

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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Link256"]

... And yet, the sky is not falling? Say is not so! :o

Don't worry the sky will open and fire and brimstone will rain down on those hellions! :P

I know,here in MA we have to dodge the fire and brimstone everytime we go outside. Not just the gay marriage either,god hates us for decriminilising weed.
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]This thread has hope of staying debate free. I hope. I thinks that's really cool. I can really see this domino effect rippling throughout the states.blackacidevil96

debate should always be encouraged! arguments are a different story....

Indeed. I agree.
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[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"] I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong. battlefront23
I agree, but I do believe they should have the liberty to get married. I do, however, think that homosexual love and heterosexual love are not the same and are not equal.

Why shouldnt they be equal?

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Oh noooo.
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="FastNorwegian"] I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong. Ingenemployee

I agree, but I do believe they should have the liberty to get married. I do, however, think that homosexual love and heterosexual love are not the same and are not equal.

Why shouldnt they be equal?

Huh? What do you mean by "shouldn't"?
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#42 Ingenemployee
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[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"] I agree, but I do believe they should have the liberty to get married. I do, however, think that homosexual love and heterosexual love are not the same and are not equal.battlefront23

Why shouldnt they be equal?

Huh? What do you mean by "shouldn't"?

sorry, why should they not equal

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Oh noooo.AAllxxjjnn
Indeed, oh nooooo.
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

Why shouldnt they be equal?

Ingenemployee

Huh? What do you mean by "shouldn't"?

sorry, why should they not equal

No, I'm saying that I don't think they are equal.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I honestly don't understand how you can oppose same-sex marriage. It does not harm anyone.

Care to explain?

I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong.

There are plenty of heterosexual married couples that are unable to reproduce...

:roll: *facepalm* We had this discussion last time a state got a gay marriage-Go. Anyone can be in love(and you don't have to get married to be in love), and society looks down on unmarried couples who have children, and since most of society is still religious, marriage is the only way to start a family and have a child without being the 'scum'. Sounds weird, but it's true. If my wife, and I had a child before we were married, my our families would probably be pretty upset, as opposed to getting married then having a child. Funny what a few words and a ring can do. Then I figure there is no need to be married. I'm not starting this again dude,
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[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"] I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong. battlefront23
I agree, but I do believe they should have the liberty to get married. I do, however, think that homosexual love and heterosexual love are not the same and are not equal.

Um why?

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#47 duxup
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So for the folks that oppose it, would that opposition also include opposing a couple one of whom had a sex change to the opposite sex of their partner?

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[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"] Huh? What do you mean by "shouldn't"?battlefront23

sorry, why should they not equal

No, I'm saying that I don't think they are equal.

i think he is questioning your reasoning in deciding why you claim homosexual love is not equal to heterosexual love.

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#49 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

sorry, why should they not equal

blackacidevil96

No, I'm saying that I don't think they are equal.

i think he is questioning your reasoning in deciding why you claim homosexual love is not equal to heterosexual love.

Oh well I believe heterosexual love is more important than homosexual. And no, not just because heterosexual couples can produce...
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="FastNorwegian"] I just think marriage should be between a man, and a woman. Man & Man can't reproduce, so why would you want to get married? If they are just doing it for benefits, thats loopholing, and pretty wrong. FastNorwegian

There are plenty of heterosexual married couples that are unable to reproduce...

:roll: *facepalm* We had this discussion last time a state got a gay marriage-Go. Anyone can be in love(and you don't have to get married to be in love), and society looks down on unmarried couples who have children, and since most of society is still religious, marriage is the only way to start a family and have a child without being the 'scum'. Sounds weird, but it's true. If my wife, and I had a child before we were married, my our families would probably be pretty upset, as opposed to getting married then having a child. Funny what a few words and a ring can do. Then I figure there is no need to be married. I'm not starting this again dude,

Even if we were to assume that marriage is the only way to start a family, that does not in any way mean that the only point to marriage is to start a family. A very weak induction on your part.