has anyone ever noticed how long the m16 is

Now i've never held or shot one before, but when you see soldiers holding it in pictures, it looks LONG. I realize there are longer guns, but for an assualt rifle, that looks long.

I think someones an army buff.

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

Maybe the designer had to make up for his own sense of "smallness"

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4.

SeanyBoy21

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

SeanyBoy21

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

No, most people never seen a m-16.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

megahaloman64

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

Since when has the M4 not been American made? And have you ever heard of the Benelli M9 or the HK MP5? Both foreign made and in use by our military.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

cpo335

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

i meant for standard troops.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

megahaloman64

i meant for standard troops.

The M9 is the standard side arm used by our armed forces, and it's Italian made.

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

SeanyBoy21

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

Since when has the M4 not been American made? And have you ever heard of the Benelli M9 or the HK MP5? Both foreign made and in use by our military.

I mean for a standard weapon that most troops are equiped with.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

you do realize that the US probably only replace it with a US made weapon.

i meant for standard troops.

enough with the american made weapons we get the point

enough with the american made weapons we get the point

megahaloman64

Well you made a false statement and you continue to try to defend it.

enough with the american made weapons we get the point

megahaloman64

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

enough with the american made weapons we get the point

cpo335

Yeah ALOT of countries use the M16 and it's many varients.

Maybe the designer had to make up for his own sense of "smallness"

thelastguy

Maybe the designer had to make up for his own sense of "smallness"

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Maybe the designer had to make up for his own sense of "smallness"

cpo335

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

enough with the american made weapons we get the point

SeanyBoy21

Well you made a false statement and you continue to try to defend it.

as i said before we get the point and i get that the us might replace the ar-15 type weapons with something foriegn.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]:lol: Yeah, they always were a rather large gun. Kinda liked the look of them.SeanyBoy21

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

[QUOTE="cpo335"] The first varient ever looked like a toy... hell, it practically was a toy. It was all plastic and metal. Cheaply made because they wanted to issue a new assault rifle on a massive scale as a repalcement to the M14.cpo335

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

Yeah, I think the people making those decisions were buying some product from those hippies back in the 60's...the first m16's supposedly jammed almost everytime you shot it, and i'm sure the rain and mud of the jungles didn't help much.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

[QUOTE="cpo335"] The first varient ever looked like a toy... hell, it practically was a toy. It was all plastic and metal. Cheaply made because they wanted to issue a new assault rifle on a massive scale as a repalcement to the M14.cpo335

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

DarkPrinceXC

Yeah most jamming problems now-a-days are just because of poor matenience, but back then it was because of horrible design.

Compared to the AK's durability and power, the M-16 is a joke. But accuracy? M-16 is top of the line.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Yep it was a common joke among the soldiers and Marines that it was manufactured by Mattel because of its mostly plastic makeup.

DarkPrinceXC

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"][QUOTE="cpo335"] lol And did you see the "comic book" manual that came with it and instructed the soldiers how to actually clean the weapon (because the gov't claimed it was so good that it never had to be cleaned)?cpo335

I don't know much about the G36c except for the fact that it fires a 5.56 which according to my father and many other Marines, soldiers, and sailors, just isn't enough. I hope we develop a good rifle that fires a 7.62 or at least something with a little more power.

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

SeanyBoy21

Not really.... I have a 1:1 scale size M16A4 airsoft gun, so its the same size of the actual one, and it is not long at all. My dad has a actual AK47, and they are about the same length.GTA_dude

The m16 is 5 inches longer. And just because the AK is just as long, doesnt mean the m16 isn't long.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

-Apathy-

Wrong my cousin(who is a USMC infantryman) was issued an M4 along with the rest of his unit. Every infantryman in every branch has an m4 now. Only the rear echelon and support people (most of our miilitary) carry m16's.

What makes you like the m16 better?

[QUOTE="-Apathy-"]

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

SeanyBoy21

Wrong my cousin(who is a USMC infantryman) was issued an M4 along with the rest of his unit. Every infantryman in every branch has an m4 now. Only the rear echelon and support people (most of our miilitary) carry m16's.

What makes you like the m16 better?

What unit were you in?

The M4 is really just an updated M16(same platform) that is not quite as accurate, is better in CQC, jams less, and i think it shoots faster. I think the M4/16 was supposed to be replaced with the XM8, which was made by the same company that made the G36. However, they canceled that project, and as of now, the M4/M16 is not being replaced.ieatnoobs18

its because its the g36 wihout the problems with it even fixed. I'm glad the Us military didin't go through with it.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

[QUOTE="-Apathy-"] The Marines still use the M16A4, but most Marine Special Forces, such as MSOB, use the M4, but the standard troops still use the M16. IMO, I like the M16A4 alot better than the M4, and yes, I've shot them both.

DarkPrinceXC

Wrong my cousin(who is a USMC infantryman) was issued an M4 along with the rest of his unit. Every infantryman in every branch has an m4 now. Only the rear echelon and support people (most of our miilitary) carry m16's.

What makes you like the m16 better?

from what i've heard the army uses most of the m4's

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"][QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

Wrong my cousin(who is a USMC infantryman) was issued an M4 along with the rest of his unit. Every infantryman in every branch has an m4 now. Only the rear echelon and support people (most of our miilitary) carry m16's.

What makes you like the m16 better?

from what i've heard the army uses most of the m4's

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"] What the hell are you talking about? I was a Rifleman in the Marine Corps for 4 years, and the ONLY time I was issued an M4 was when I was a Fire Team Leader. So no, not every infantrymen in every branch has an M4. ESPECIALLY in the Marine Corps. Hell, you'll see squad leaders with M16s sometimes. The line companies only get allotted a certain amount, and most are taken by the officers/Staff NCO's. The rest trickle down to the Squad Leaders, and if you're lucky, the fire team leaders. Fact: the majority of the Marine Corps still uses the M16. Hell, there's more M249s than there is M4s. ieatnoobs18

from what i've heard the army uses most of the m4's

He never said they were the same.

And I think I misunderstoopd what my cousin told me. I think he said that M16 A2's were being phased out and that every one carried M16 A4's.

He never said they were the same.

And I think I misunderstoopd what my cousin told me. I think he said that M16 A2's were being phased out and that every one carried M16 A4's.

there really is no reason to use them with the a3's and a4's

Thats why it's being phased out by the m4 and hopefully the FN SCAR in the future.

SeanyBoy21

m4 ftw

He never said they were the same.

And I think I misunderstoopd what my cousin told me. I think he said that M16 A2's were being phased out and that every one carried M16 A4's.

megahaloman64

there really is no reason to use them with the a3's and a4's

No one really ever used the A3's Only SEAL's and SeeBee's really used them.

What unit were you in?

SeanyBoy21

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

He never said they were the same.

And I think I misunderstoopd what my cousin told me. I think he said that M16 A2's were being phased out and that every one carried M16 A4's.

SeanyBoy21

there really is no reason to use them with the a3's and a4's

No one really ever used the A3's Only SEAL's and SeeBee's really used them.

i know, most standard troops only fire their rifles on semi auto.

[QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

What unit were you in?

DarkPrinceXC

Did you go to basic at PI or Pendleton?

My cousin is either in 1/7 or 2/7, I can't really remember.

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"][QUOTE="SeanyBoy21"]

What unit were you in?

SeanyBoy21

Did you go to basic at PI or Pendleton?

My cousin is either in 1/7 or 2/7, I can't really remember.