Has anyone seen Gummo?

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#1 MrGeezer
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So...I just watched this movie called Gummo. It's sort of about the aimless lives of the residents of a small town which was devastated by a tornado and never recovered. It's a very unconventional movie in the sense that there's not really any kind of plot or story to speak of. So in that sense, I don't even know whether or not I thought that the movie was good or bad. I just...don't know. The movie falls far enough outside of the norm that I don't feel comfortable judging it on the same standards that I'd apply to more conventional movies. I will say this...it was interesting. It was often entertaining, sometimes funny, sometimes sad, etc. But I sort of get the impression that sometimes I might have been laughing about stuff that I wasn't supposed to. Anyway, that's not what I'm talking about. This topic is about the movie being morally repugnant. I've heard a few people say that this was just a disgusting movie, and offensive on a moral level. And...I just don't see that. I didn't see any specific content was morally reprehensible. And the only thing that came close to being really disturbing was the overall sense of what life was like for those people (what passes for normal, what kinds of behavior was deemed to be acceptable). But if anything, on first glance I felt that the tone was sympathetic and not the least bit mean-spirited. That the movie wasn't so much trying to tell a story, but instead trying to paint a picture of a community devastated by tragedy and unable to recover, and how they're still fundamentally human despite outwards appearances. Despite the overall trashy bevahior displayed in the movie, I still got a sense of these being just normal people trying to cope with life as best they knew how. And that brings me to my question...does anyone know why people say that this movie is offensive and morally repugnant? I can understand someone just plain thinking that it SUCKS. But I've seen and heard several people say that the movie is just ugly and reprehensible. And I don't get that, because I am REALLY not seeing it. Exactly what is so morally wrong about this movie? Much of the behaviour is certainly ugly, but I sure wouldn't go so far as to paint all of these people as bad. The movie DOESN'T seem to be glorifying their lifestyles, if anything it just seems to be painting a picture of a community which has suffered through tremendous tragedy and is still going through the process of "Crying". I can understand the complaint that the movie just plain sucks. But I'm really not getting the kinds of vehement hatred that I've been hearing about it. What exactly is so reprehensible about this movie?
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#2 jetpower3
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I have not seen said movie. But based on how you describe it, and after reading a little bit about it, it seems very much in line with the "dark side of the human condition", as well as the notion that "we may not like what we see, but that's just the way it is". The nonlinear, meandering, and anti-heroic narrative (as it seems to be) also seems to testify to the fact that life is inherently just that, and most of the time there are no noble plot devices or schemes, despite how much we might love our conventional fiction. To me, it sounds analogous to Kubrick's vision of the world and humanity (although maybe a tad less cynical and ironic). And I think when confronted with such raw, bitter, and (painfully) honest realities (instead of the sterilized and absolute ideals that sadly permeate so much of fiction), people would tend to lash out or criticize it as being "reprehensible" and the like. Tragedies and disasters bring out the best and worst in people, as they say, but utter devastation that shatters hopes and dreams and seems impossible to recover from (even if only initially) doesn't often lead people to better ways.

Mind you, I again have not seen the movie, but I am quite intrigued.

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#3 VaguelyTagged
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i've seen it and can't say what's possibly repugnant about it's morality either.why didn't you ask those who originally sparked the discussion?