Hate Comes to Orange County

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="greenzone15"] Not really... There are constitutional protections against hate speech and "fighting words." greenzone15

Actually, hate speech is perfectly protected under the 1st amendment to the United States Constitution. Hate speech does not fall under the "fighting words" exception.

This is why neo-Nazis are allowed to march through Jewish neighborhoods chanting anti-semetic slurs and waving swastikas. It's free speech.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]Hmmm.... funny -- I'm sure I've seen that kind of mentality at work before... reminds me of a certain political party that rose to power in Germany in the 1930's...QuistisTrepe_

Comparing people you disagree with to Nazis is prety original.

It's actually pretty relevant in this case since the people in the video are attacking a religious minority.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]Hmmm.... funny -- I'm sure I've seen that kind of mentality at work before... reminds me of a certain political party that rose to power in Germany in the 1930's...superfluidity

Comparing people you disagree with to Nazis is prety original.

It's actually pretty relevant in this case since the people in the video are attacking a religious minority.

Wow those people are freaking terrible. What a bunch of useless idiotic bigots.Ace6301

That protest was terrible. It is completely unethical and there's just no way someone can defend that kind of hate from those people.

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Ace6301

"Go back to the oven," she shouted, calling for the counter-protesters to die in the manner that the Nazis used to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3921236/scorching-protests

there, is that more fitting?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

"Go back to the oven," she shouted, calling for the counter-protesters to die in the manner that the Nazis used to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3921236/scorching-protests

there, is that more fitting?

The fact there are people in here defending a group of people who are yelling at children for basically no reason just because those protestors share the same political affiliation as them is truly distressing.Pixel-Pirate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuCk6BDZSU

and i don't like the protesters either i just don't like one side of the story presented as the truth.

both sides are guilty of spreading hate. if you get a pile of hateful idiots together what do you get?

a giant gaggle of hateful idiots.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] That's great why don't you go make a topic about it then rather than trying to use it to take away from the fact the people in the videos posted are a terrible bunch of hate mongers? Ace6301

"Go back to the oven," she shouted, calling for the counter-protesters to die in the manner that the Nazis used to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3921236/scorching-protests

there, is that more fitting?

anyway my bad i thought this was a thing held in florida. kind of strange to me that this happened in cali.

anyway the original story makes one side out to be victims andthe only true victims there were the children because they were brought to hear a hate speech and then got yelled at by a bunch of nutcases.

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Xtasy26

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

:| There is obviously a difference in Islamic followers just as there is of any followers in any religion.. Take a look at Turkey for starters rampent Islamic extremism is pretty nil.. Its a secular nation to boot.. Same goes for Egypt mainly.. I really think we are splitting hairs here, all religions have extermists and all extremists need to be combated if they preach intolerance, violence and other such things.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

sSubZerOo

:| There is obviously a difference in Islamic followers just as there is of any followers in any religion.. Take a look at Turkey for starters rampent Islamic extremism is pretty nil.. Its a secular nation to boot.. Same goes for Egypt mainly.. I really think we are splitting hairs here, all religions have extermists and all extremists need to be combated if they preach intolerance, violence and other such things.

look in the original post and tell me where that accusation came from.

everyone wants to play the victim and when someone wants to use that technique it's a big neon flashing warning sign.

my observation here is that people are going to be up in arms over these tea party nuts and then sweep systematic murder under the rug.

it's a joke.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

"Go back to the oven," she shouted, calling for the counter-protesters to die in the manner that the Nazis used to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3921236/scorching-protests

there, is that more fitting?

There are some many things I could be typing here--but all of them would get me modded. So let me say this: You hold very irrational views towards the subject :)

That's a shame. The tea party should be more careful about who it lets in its ranks. The whole "I'm angry but I don't know at what" thing gets a little tiring. Then you end up with this kind of stuff where people just resort to brainless biggotry.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

anyone find it ironic that this is the story getting press when today the funeral was held for Shahbaz bhatti.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9loc1i00/pakistani-pm-praises-slain-christian-politician-at-funeral-mass-but-doesnt-mention-blasphemy.html

and yes this is hot on the heels of an earlier assassination.

http://www.radiovaticana.org/EN2/Articolo.asp?c=451825

"moderate" pakistani scholars had this to say.

"A group of 500 moderate Pakistani religious scholars have warned that anyone who expresses grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate, saying that those who oppose the blasphemy law should learn a lesson from Taseer's death."

OT is all oh noes bigots has hurt someones feelings! :shock:

Riverwolf007

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

Hence, my argument about how messed up it is over there. :roll: The fact that you brought up a dysfunctional country like Pakistan which distorts religion for political purposes, and practices a distorted version of Islam and then you go and try to pass this on as some sort of example of how the Islamic religion is or how Muslims are is just plane nonsense.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]:lol: go preach that on a street corner in Ramallah or Islamabad and see how long you live.

Riverwolf007

:| There is obviously a difference in Islamic followers just as there is of any followers in any religion.. Take a look at Turkey for starters rampent Islamic extremism is pretty nil.. Its a secular nation to boot.. Same goes for Egypt mainly.. I really think we are splitting hairs here, all religions have extermists and all extremists need to be combated if they preach intolerance, violence and other such things.

look in the original post and tell me where that accusation came from.

everyone wants to play the victim and when someone wants to use that technique it's a big neon flashing warning sign.

my observation here is that people are going to be up in arms over these tea party nuts and then sweep systematic murder under the rug.

it's a joke.

Then why would you bring of the whackjobs in Pakistan and connect it to the religion?

That's like me bringing up all the disgusting sexual molestation cases which the Catholic Church had to pay billions of dollars to settle and then bring that example and connected it to Christianity and Christian behaviour.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

LMAO. Many Pakistanis have deveated from the true teaching from Islam including these so called scholars. The concept of balsphemy is a foreign concept. Because in the Quran it states, "There can be no compulstion in religion". Even wonder why Pakistan has so many issues? Well, here's a hint, the leadership in that country has perveted the religion and added new inventions to the religion. The fact you are using this example as a true face of Islam has fail written all over it. That's like me showing the people of the Westborough Baptist church as true christians, they are neither just like these Muslim.You are doing the same thing that you are criticizing other people of doing. Talk about hypocrisy.

The fact that you referred to Pakistan's president who is a corrupt, criminal thug, as a valid source of Islamic guidance has epic fail written all over it.

sSubZerOo

:| There is obviously a difference in Islamic followers just as there is of any followers in any religion.. Take a look at Turkey for starters rampent Islamic extremism is pretty nil.. Its a secular nation to boot.. Same goes for Egypt mainly.. I really think we are splitting hairs here, all religions have extermists and all extremists need to be combated if they preach intolerance, violence and other such things.

Correct there are plenty of examples where extremisim and violence against religious minorities are next to nil in other Islamic countries. Turkey is a perfect example. Of course people like Riverwolf007 choose to ignore those Islamic countries, instead he brings up a dysfunctional country like Pakistan as am example. There are other countries too...for example in Bangladesh which is a predominantly Muslim country. It however has great religious tolerance, there is a large Hindu population that is vibrant in which Hindus can freely celebrate their many Hindu holidays freely through the streets of Bangladesh. I don't think this would be happening in a dysfunctional, broken, country like Pakistan. It even has a female Prime Minister who was democratically elected, not only that their previous female Prime Minister was a female. While our country never had a female President let alone two. Indonesia, the country with the largest Muslim population, also had a democratically elected female PM/President in previous years. Gee...if Islam and Muslim were so bad and opressed woman and all that jibberish than while come other religions in certain Muslim countries can live side by side with predominantly Muslim population and thrive and elect Muslim female Prime Minister and Presidents?

Man that's terrible... those people are just idiots.

But don't you guys think it would have been AWESOME if one of the muslim people walking into teh building held up a sign saying "U mad Bro?" or a sign with a troll face on it... that would be amazing.