Have kid's movies gotten more or less mature?

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#1 Film-Guy
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It's interesting for me to see kid's films these days and how a lot of people seem to protect their kids against everything in films like they can't handle it. I don't want to generalize, but more parents in the U.S that I have noticed seem to be more worried about their kids seeing nudity than violence. I remember the kid's films I grew up with like Watership down, Return to oz, Dark Crystal, The Sword in the stone, The Pagemaster, Space Jam, Labyrinth, Muppet Treasure Island, Fantasia, and Time Bandits. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic.

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#2 BuryMe
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Less mature.

I've gone back and watched some movies I watched as a kid, and all I could think was "wow. You would never get this in a family movie today."

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#3 BigBoss154
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Less.

Anybody remember The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS3weMlxLAWhat the hell happened to you, Disney?

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Old kids movies are much better than new ones, and that's not just nostalgia talking. The villians were actually scary and there were frightening scenes; they were exciting and fun to watch. These days the villains are just stupid, and end up being defeated because of their clear lack of intelligence. And that's if there is even a villain at all. Anything that might be seen as exciting isn't allowed in kids movies anymore, and so the product we're left with is a bunch of fart jokes and lessons about friendship.
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#5 dercoo
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Kids movies tend to go through circles of high maturity to low maturity.

Currently were on the lower side, but Pixar and even dreamworks (on occasion) can produce quality.

And kids movies made outside US (Japanese anime or European animation like Secret of the kells) can be very mature especially animation

I miss the good old days of disney renassance and early dreamworks and in general 2D US animation:cry:

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#6 BuryMe
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Old kids movies are much better than new ones, and that's not just nostalgia talking. The villians were actually scary and there were frightening scenes; they were exciting and fun to watch. These days the villains are just stupid, and end up being defeated because of their clear lack of intelligence. And that's if there is even a villain at all. Anything that might be seen as exciting isn't allowed in kids movies anymore, and so the product we're left with is a bunch of fart jokes and lessons about friendship. harashawn
Seriously.

I was terrified of Snow White when I was young. When it was released on blu-ray, I watched it and finally enjoyed it properly, all the while thinking that they wouldn't dare try and depict death or murder in family movies now.

And I saw Free Willy recently. Apparently, even back in 1992, you were allowed to use the work "Crap" in a movie that kids would watch. (The line was "We have to sort out what he can eat from the cheap crap they buy him.") but for some reason, you can't do that today.

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I find that the kids these days are way more immature, heck even most of the 18 yr olds I know act like they're five, I'm 23 btw.
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]Old kids movies are much better than new ones, and that's not just nostalgia talking. The villians were actually scary and there were frightening scenes; they were exciting and fun to watch. These days the villains are just stupid, and end up being defeated because of their clear lack of intelligence. And that's if there is even a villain at all. Anything that might be seen as exciting isn't allowed in kids movies anymore, and so the product we're left with is a bunch of fart jokes and lessons about friendship. BuryMe

Seriously.

I was terrified of Snow White when I was young. When it was released on blu-ray, I watched it and finally enjoyed it properly, all the while thinking that they wouldn't dare try and depict death or murder in family movies now.

And I saw Free Willy recently. Apparently, even back in 1992, you were allowed to use the work "Crap" in a movie that kids would watch. (The line was "We have to sort out what he can eat from the cheap crap they buy him.") but for some reason, you can't do that today.

Exactly my point. In Snow White, the dwarfs flat-out kill the evil queen by throwing a boulder on her and crushing her. In newer kids films, the villain is defeated by their own flaws (Syndrome dies because his cape gets caught in an airplane engine). The dwarfs ****ing killed the evil witch, Syndrome dies by accident. There's no "He died because he was evil" moment; He just dies to wrap up the story. In fact, villains only seem to die these days if it can be seen as humourous. Not only that, but it there was no moral ambiguity surrounding the villain. You knew they were evil because you were scared of them. The bad guy was scary, not the comic relief.

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#9 Sandulf29
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I haven't watched any kids movies in a while so I dunoo :( But kids these days watch a lot of anime which iis quite mature compared to cartoons we used to watch. So I guess kids like mature stuff these days and movie industry is acting on it.

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#10 Aspen706
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I don't watch kids movie anymore but I'd say more mature.
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#11 ZEYAAM898
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Less mature.
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#12 Nickn4me
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Depends on what you're gauging maturity on. Movies like The Lion King and Hunchback of Notre Dame were more mature because of their themes (Death, romance.) and nowadays it's shifted to things like Madagascar and Monsters Inc. which lack any real moral lessons or important topics. As for humor, I think they're about the same, the current ones definitely have more fart jokes though lol.
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#13 zeldaluff
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The villians were actually scary and there were frightening scenes; they were exciting and fun to watch.harashawn

Definitely. My friend had issues watching Anastasia because it gave her nightmares :P

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theres pixar but not is about it :P (maturity wise :P)

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#15 StealthMonkey4
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More mature.

Toy Story 3, WALL-E, Up, How to Train Your Dragon, Ratatouille, Finding Nemo, the Incredibles, etc.

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Depends on what you're gauging maturity on. Movies like The Lion King and Hunchback of Notre Dame were more mature because of their themes (Death, romance.) and nowadays it's shifted to things like Madagascar and Monsters Inc. which lack any real moral lessons or important topics. As for humor, I think they're about the same, the current ones definitely have more fart jokes though lol. Nickn4me
What you talkin bout Willis? Madagascar is crap, but Monsters Inc. has plenty of mature content. Basically anything by Pixar is gold standard...Except for Cars 2 apparently, which sucks D:
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#17 ferrari2001
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Well looking at movies by Pixar or Dreamworks, these movies are becoming extremely deep and complex, more so than older movies. It's the live action kid movies that seem to be getting less mature while animations are taking on much more depth and become accessible to more than just children.
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#18 Nickn4me
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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"] What you talkin bout Willis? Madagascar is crap, but Monsters Inc. has plenty of mature content. Basically anything by Pixar is gold standard...Except for Cars 2 apparently, which sucks D:

But from a kids' point of view, what is Monsters Inc. teaching you, other than that monsters are cool guys that only want to make you laugh?
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]Old kids movies are much better than new ones, and that's not just nostalgia talking. The villians were actually scary and there were frightening scenes; they were exciting and fun to watch. These days the villains are just stupid, and end up being defeated because of their clear lack of intelligence. And that's if there is even a villain at all. Anything that might be seen as exciting isn't allowed in kids movies anymore, and so the product we're left with is a bunch of fart jokes and lessons about friendship. BuryMe

Seriously.

I was terrified of Snow White when I was young. When it was released on blu-ray, I watched it and finally enjoyed it properly, all the while thinking that they wouldn't dare try and depict death or murder in family movies now.

And I saw Free Willy recently. Apparently, even back in 1992, you were allowed to use the work "Crap" in a movie that kids would watch. (The line was "We have to sort out what he can eat from the cheap crap they buy him.") but for some reason, you can't do that today.

Go view "Tangled" and tell me what you think.

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Much less. Dark Crystal and Labyrinth were two of my favourite movies as a kid - there's nothing like them today. They aren't really violent, but there's a pervasive creepiness to them that I haven't seen in a kid's movie in years (Nightmare Before Christmas was probably the last with a similar feel).
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[QUOTE="Nickn4me"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"] What you talkin bout Willis? Madagascar is crap, but Monsters Inc. has plenty of mature content. Basically anything by Pixar is gold standard...Except for Cars 2 apparently, which sucks D:

But from a kids' point of view, what is Monsters Inc. teaching you, other than that monsters are cool guys that only want to make you laugh?

I could be reaching here, but the Monsters initial xenophobic behaviour to the children caused fear and hatred. But once the Monsters realized that the children were harmless and vice versa, they were able to share a bond just like anyone else (demonstrated between the relationship between the kid and the blue furry monster). It promotes that no matter how different someone seems, they can still be kind on the inside... Or some crap like that, I don't know :P
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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Nickn4me"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"] What you talkin bout Willis? Madagascar is crap, but Monsters Inc. has plenty of mature content. Basically anything by Pixar is gold standard...Except for Cars 2 apparently, which sucks D:

But from a kids' point of view, what is Monsters Inc. teaching you, other than that monsters are cool guys that only want to make you laugh?

I could be reaching here, but the Monsters initial xenophobic behaviour to the children caused fear and hatred. But once the Monsters realized that the children were harmless and vice versa, they were able to share a bond just like anyone else (demonstrated between the relationship between the kid and the blue furry monster). It promotes that no matter how different someone seems, they can still be kind on the inside... Or some crap like that, I don't know :P

But Sully ends up abandoning the little girl in order to pursue his career in the power factory. Plus if the explanation requires use of the word xenophobic, I don't think a child could really take something from it if they're anywhere under 10.
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Today's kids movies are a plumit in maturity.

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[QUOTE="Nickn4me"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Nickn4me"] But from a kids' point of view, what is Monsters Inc. teaching you, other than that monsters are cool guys that only want to make you laugh?

I could be reaching here, but the Monsters initial xenophobic behaviour to the children caused fear and hatred. But once the Monsters realized that the children were harmless and vice versa, they were able to share a bond just like anyone else (demonstrated between the relationship between the kid and the blue furry monster). It promotes that no matter how different someone seems, they can still be kind on the inside... Or some crap like that, I don't know :P

But Sully ends up abandoning the little girl in order to pursue his career in the power factory. Plus if the explanation requires use of the word xenophobic, I don't think a child could really take something from it if they're anywhere under 10.

Well then I guess kids should get on my level
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#25 Sunsha
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Well, when watching Tangled I felt it was more mature than previous Disney movies. I can't really say how a child would feel about it though.
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#26 Nickn4me
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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Nickn4me"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"] I could be reaching here, but the Monsters initial xenophobic behaviour to the children caused fear and hatred. But once the Monsters realized that the children were harmless and vice versa, they were able to share a bond just like anyone else (demonstrated between the relationship between the kid and the blue furry monster). It promotes that no matter how different someone seems, they can still be kind on the inside... Or some crap like that, I don't know :P

But Sully ends up abandoning the little girl in order to pursue his career in the power factory. Plus if the explanation requires use of the word xenophobic, I don't think a child could really take something from it if they're anywhere under 10.

Well then I guess kids should get on my level

Same. /chinheight. ;_;
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Kids movies these days are often really immature.

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#28 PatchMaster
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Modern kid's movies seem to vary a lot in the maturity department. When comparing them to movies from the 80's and 90's, some are on the same level while others are far less mature and dumbed down.