Have you ever been rejected by a woman?

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No but I've rejected a few of them....LJS9502_basic

They might not be as aggressive as some movies portray them but some women will put the moves on you and they'll do whatever it takes to get you. I can only name 4 women that have come on to me like that, and it feels good at first but it kinda ruins the whole cat and mouse game.

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

Not really. Most women would be able to tell if the guy was acting. Some accept it, some don't. If you make an effort in treating them right, you're going to get something back in return. It is the way the world works. You're never yourself on the first date/meet/whatever. Would you really expect a woman to be completely herself the first time you both meet?

Sajedene

What does first time meeting have to do with this? Nothing really...

So you're saying that he should instead be rude to her? No, I get you. But if the girl is naive enough to fall for what you're saying, she will eventually gain something from the experience. One must first make mistakes to later avoid making the same ones. Eventually, the one that falls for the "nice guy" act will see through the illusion and be a stronger person for it.

In some roundabout way, the sooner the better. You know everybody eventually loose their innocence, being used by the opposite gender is one sure way to mature further. Not that I'm saying taking advantage of women-or men-is acceptable behavior. It's just that...if not him, it's going to be someone else. Probably.

No see, I'm all about the game and totally get what you're saying. But you do it for your own personal gain. You dont do it because you're trying to find a relationship. You're doing it to get the fix for the night. That is something someone desperate and slutty would do. We all use each other in a way, but you do it with such awareness which is the issue here. You're not a player -- you're a slut.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

Not really. Most women would be able to tell if the guy was acting. Some accept it, some don't. If you make an effort in treating them right, you're going to get something back in return. It is the way the world works. You're never yourself on the first date/meet/whatever. Would you really expect a woman to be completely herself the first time you both meet?

Dub_c6969

What does first time meeting have to do with this? Nothing really...

So you're saying that he should instead be rude to her? No, I get you. But if the girl is naive enough to fall for what you're saying, she will eventually gain something from the experience. One must first make mistakes to later avoid making the same ones. Eventually, the one that falls for the "nice guy" act will see through the illusion and be a stronger person for it.

In some roundabout way, the sooner the better. You know everybody eventually loose their innocence, being used by the opposite gender is one sure way to mature further. Not that I'm saying taking advantage of women-or men-is acceptable behavior. It's just that...if not him, it's going to be someone else. Probably.

Rejection can be done respectfully and will most likely teach the person more than getting used. A lot of people who get used dont learn anything other than fear or hating on something no thanks to one individual.

I'm sensing you've been used.

Okay... seriously... you're just talking out of your you know what now. You say you women dont ask men out -- then you say they've asked you out. You take advantage of the self esteem of these women, because you yourself have low self esteem. You know you are using them and still think that you are doing something to their benefit by "teaching them a lesson" when you are only making their situation worse -- oh but when you do dump them, you still keep them close to you.

I call BS.

Honestly, my experience was what one could call a perfect example of what w're talking about--just under different circumstances. And I'm still sticking to my previous statement.

If you're let go with "respect", then you don't exactly feel what you would if it was a more painful process. You wouldn't be hurt. And so, you wouldn't have learned your lesson...as painful as it might have been. Again, I'm saying that taking advantage of people is right, but it really is how the world works. It's nearly impossible to avoid it.

a55assin

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

Not really. Most women would be able to tell if the guy was acting. Some accept it, some don't. If you make an effort in treating them right, you're going to get something back in return. It is the way the world works. You're never yourself on the first date/meet/whatever. Would you really expect a woman to be completely herself the first time you both meet?

Sajedene

What does first time meeting have to do with this? Nothing really...

So you're saying that he should instead be rude to her? No, I get you. But if the girl is naive enough to fall for what you're saying, she will eventually gain something from the experience. One must first make mistakes to later avoid making the same ones. Eventually, the one that falls for the "nice guy" act will see through the illusion and be a stronger person for it.

In some roundabout way, the sooner the better. You know everybody eventually loose their innocence, being used by the opposite gender is one sure way to mature further. Not that I'm saying taking advantage of women-or men-is acceptable behavior. It's just that...if not him, it's going to be someone else. Probably.

Rejection can be done respectfully and will most likely teach the person more than getting used. A lot of people who get used dont learn anything other than fear or hating on something no thanks to one individual.

I'm sensing you've been used.

Okay... seriously... you're just talking out of your you know what now. You say you women dont ask men out -- then you say they've asked you out. You take advantage of the self esteem of these women, because you yourself have low self esteem. You know you are using them and still think that you are doing something to their benefit by "teaching them a lesson" when you are only making their situation worse -- oh but when you do dump them, you still keep them close to you.

I call BS.

I dont this either to teach them lessons either thats just stupid.

I dont it for a fix, how do you know i want sex from them, they GIVE me that i dont really ask for it, they give material things and im not a slut you dont know me.Dub_c6969

You enter into these relationships you know will fail because you know they will GIVE it to you. That is a user and an abuser.

Honestly, my experience was what one could call a perfect example of what w're talking about--just under different circumstances. And I'm still sticking to my previous statement.

If you're let go with "respect", then you don't exactly feel what you would if it was a more painful process. You wouldn't be hurt. And so, you wouldn't have learned your lesson...as painful as it might have been. Again, I'm saying that taking advantage of people is right, but it really is how the world works. It's nearly impossible to avoid it.

a55assin

Well yeah duh its impossible to avoid it. But you're talking about a break up... which btw can be done cleanly. And what break-up doesnt hurt? People dont learn from the break-up... they learn from the process that leads to the break up. And rejection in this topic has nothing to do with breaking up.

In regards to taking advantage of people... yes it is unnavoidable - but it doesnt make it right when you actively abuse the process.

In this particular thread, all the strings eventually lead to the ball of wool in the center of it all.

Breaking up with someone after having used them for your own needs and wants factors in greatly in the whole of this subject. Well, not the breakup it self, but how it's done.

Let's see, if two adults use each other for their own reasons, it cannot really be a case of taking advantage of someone anymore. It's a sort of unspoken agreement. You get what you want, I get what I want, and let's not talk about it. That's what he's doing, in a way.

If the other person in the relationship isn't aware of how they're being used, it's a different story...but still basically the same thing in the grand scale of things. If she or he is made aware of the other's true reasons for being with her or him, then a lesson is learned and pain is born. But if the one being used doesn't learn the truth on the end, nothing comes out of it. It would just happen again and again, until...well, who knows.

To clarify myself--you cannot really take advantage of someone who's at least in some way aware of the fact that they're simply being used. And most people have the decency to avoid using the the unsuspecting victims, the lambs waiting for slaughter...

Now I'm confused. I think I contradicted myself somewhere in there....

Yes, a couple years back.

She lead me on though.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

Not really. Most women would be able to tell if the guy was acting. Some accept it, some don't. If you make an effort in treating them right, you're going to get something back in return. It is the way the world works. You're never yourself on the first date/meet/whatever. Would you really expect a woman to be completely herself the first time you both meet?

Dub_c6969

What does first time meeting have to do with this? Nothing really...

So you're saying that he should instead be rude to her? No, I get you. But if the girl is naive enough to fall for what you're saying, she will eventually gain something from the experience. One must first make mistakes to later avoid making the same ones. Eventually, the one that falls for the "nice guy" act will see through the illusion and be a stronger person for it.

In some roundabout way, the sooner the better. You know everybody eventually loose their innocence, being used by the opposite gender is one sure way to mature further. Not that I'm saying taking advantage of women-or men-is acceptable behavior. It's just that...if not him, it's going to be someone else. Probably.

Rejection can be done respectfully and will most likely teach the person more than getting used. A lot of people who get used dont learn anything other than fear or hating on something no thanks to one individual.

I'm sensing you've been used.

Okay... seriously... you're just talking out of your you know what now. You say you women dont ask men out -- then you say they've asked you out. You take advantage of the self esteem of these women, because you yourself have low self esteem. You know you are using them and still think that you are doing something to their benefit by "teaching them a lesson" when you are only making their situation worse -- oh but when you do dump them, you still keep them close to you.

I call BS.

I dont this either to teach them lessons either thats just stupid.

Best sentence ever. :lol:

I had a girl in high school that said yes to me when I asked her to be my gf, even though she didnt really like me. She said she felt bad and she didnt want to hurt my feelings which may sound nice to some people, but I think it's just wrong because it's never nice to lead people on. Best to tell the truth, straight answers. Long story short, I ended up breaking it off with her because I eventually caught on and I realized she didnt like me because she kept walking away when I tried to hug her. When I think back to those days, I feel like such an idiot, lol. Then her cousin, who is an acquaintence comes around and thought I was playing on her, but I was telling him, SHE DIDNT LIKE ME (a**hole!). And then, she ended up dating my best friend at the time. Good times. :PElann2008

Yep plenty of times, but thats why im with a girl that i really really love now, I think the people saying they have not been rejected are either lying or they have not had a lot of girlfriend's, its prolly their first one.Dub_c6969

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"] Ok what ever. stop lying.LJS9502_basic

And no, I've never been rejected because I havent really asked a girl out.

No girl was ever found to reject me. 8)

No girl was ever found to reject me. 8)

teh_619

Hmm, I wonder why? ;)

I think what makes rejection seemingly hurt so much is that we perceive it to be a rejection of us personally. As a person, a human being.

One of the definitions of rejection is to deny. The one we take personally is to discard as defective or useless. That one zings right into our hearts. One thing i know for certain - absolutely no one on this earth has the right to tell you that you're defective or useless. Well they can tell you but you can also reject their comment as worthless. The real pain behind rejection is that we think someone is saying we aren't worthy or that we are defective or useless. Guess what, it's all lies.

No one is defective or useless. As long as we are breathing we have an opportunity to be quite useful and if there is something we want to change about our lives, we can do that. No one is defective. Why do you think that the other persons behavior is about you? It isn't. It's about them. Always.

Nah, but im still very young =D

Its one of my achievements:

Get Rejected By 3 Women - 300 Points

Get Rejected By 3 Men - 300 Poinsts

Well ...it depends on what type of rejection we're talking about >___>

but you mean like relationship...no. :oops:

Heck no. I'm way too awesome 8)

What I mean to say is, I haven't put myself out there to get rejected.

There is no reason to be afraid of rejection because it happens to almost everyone, even to men who look like Brad Pit. There are many reasons why a woman is not interested and most of these reasons are about her, not about you.

- She might be married

- She might be in a bad mood

- She might be a lesbian (not all that bad,
actually)

- She might be offended

- She might be emotionally unstable

- She might have misheard what you said

- She might have gotten nervous

- She might have thought you were ugly

Another thing to remember is that women don't choose to feel attraction to a man because attraction is not a choice. Women are programmed to seek out dominant men. Dominant men offer survival value, which is good for the survival of the woman and her offspring. This increases the chances of her genes being passed on to the next generation.

That is why alpha characteristics such as confidence, leadership, humor, charisma, and social skills are bigger factors of attraction than physical appearance.

David DeAngelo says that out of a random sample of 100 beautiful women, you'd probably find that only 20 of them (or so) are:

- Single

- Emotionally Stable

- Able to carry on an interesting conversation

- Not stuck up

- Not psycho

No, but I've never asked one out before, and I've rejected women who have asked me out. >_>Aquat1cF1sh

same with me, i think this one girl i know might be intrested in me though but i'm not sure which sixth form she's going to