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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] so you dont think anything can be right or wrong and yet you just tried to state that those who believe in god are wrong, one of your two statements is a hypercritical statementsurrealnumber5

Moral right and wrong is far FAR different than factual right and wrong. Nowhere did I say anyone who believes in god is wrong for doing so. Simply that all evidence I've ever seen presented is flimsy at best. I make no claims of knowing one way or the other. My claim is to not base your life on "maybe" and "what if". My claim is that it's irrelevant. My claim is to live the way you choose to, not the way you think some higher power that may or may not exist wants you to.

That is why I have no morals, because I don't believe in morality. To me it's not about the "moral absolutes" of right or wrong. It's about what you can and cannot live with after the fact. We like to treat morality as some infallible truth, when in reality morality is a made made notion. Does a lion burdened with the weight of morality when it hunts and kills an elk? Does a worker ant feel resentment for it's station in life? Does a lethal disease question if what it's doing is right or wrong?

Morality is a self-created metal block. Something to make us feel guilty for wanting to be better than others, for wanting to achieve greatness no matter the cost. Something that makes us feel better for accepting a life of prostration and humble mediocrity. Which is why I reject Morality.

May wanna read that definition again, then read my post again, the whole post, as opposed to the last two lines that you seemingly decided to latch onto. Because from where I'm standing my post still applies.

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[QUOTE="keech"]

Moral right and wrong is far FAR different than factual right and wrong. Nowhere did I say anyone who believes in god is wrong for doing so. Simply that all evidence I've ever seen presented is flimsy at best. I make no claims of knowing one way or the other. My claim is to not base your life on "maybe" and "what if". My claim is that it's irrelevant. My claim is to live the way you choose to, not the way you think some higher power that may or may not exist wants you to.

That is why I have no morals, because I don't believe in morality. To me it's not about the "moral absolutes" of right or wrong. It's about what you can and cannot live with after the fact. We like to treat morality as some infallible truth, when in reality morality is a made made notion. Does a lion burdened with the weight of morality when it hunts and kills an elk? Does a worker ant feel resentment for it's station in life? Does a lethal disease question if what it's doing is right or wrong?

Morality is a self-created metal block. Something to make us feel guilty for wanting to be better than others, for wanting to achieve greatness no matter the cost. Something that makes us feel better for accepting a life of prostration and humble mediocrity. Which is why I reject Morality.

keech

May wanna read that definition again, then read my post again, the whole post, as opposed to the last two lines that you seemingly decided to latch onto. Because from where I'm standing my post still applies.

[QUOTE="keech"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] moral: –adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes. 2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel. 3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations. 4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being. 5. conforming to the rules of right conduct ( opposed to immoral): a moral man. 6. virtuous in sexual matters; chaste. 7. of, pertaining to, or acting on the mind, feelings, will, or character: moral support. 8. resting upon convincing grounds of probability; virtual: a moral certainty. you may want to find out what moral means

alexside1

May wanna read that definition again, then read my post again, the whole post, as opposed to the last two lines that you seemingly decided to latch onto. Because from where I'm standing my post still applies.