Have you ever seen the zeitgeist movie?

[QUOTE="ferret837"]im not sure if i believe it but they did raise interesting points.......... such as the way building 7 collapsed,notconspiracy

what was unusual about it?

Its unusual in that it collapsed the same way as a building collapses with explosives, but its probably possiable it collapsed from the fire. But why wasnt it mentioned in the 9/11 comission is all im wondering notconspiracy

thirdly, the collapse was not like a controlled demolition for 2 reasons. 1: controlled demolition take on the order of a few seconds. tower 7 took 16 seconds to collapse if you include the penthouse. 2: There were no explosions all along the facade of the buildings like ALL other controlled demolitions

There was no inferno. The biggest fires in Tower 7 were on 3 floors(floors 11, 12 and 28 ) at most and were described as small blazes compared to WTC 1 & 2. Tower 7 took less then 7 seconds to collapse at free-fall speed, had the usual "kink" in the building that many witnessed and it coincidentially fell into it's own footprint as well right into it's own basement. If that isn't descriptive on a controlled demolition, than America must've taught me wrong. This building right here, Tower 5 had a much more ferocious inferno going thru it for much longer time, and yet it never fell.

This is a great movie! I hope many more people see it. Organized religion is really the true enemy of a free thinking society.

WTC 7 was nothing short of a demolition. This building, aside from what the guys above were saying, was INCREDIBLY reinforced. It contained extremely sensitive computers and storage data that just so happened to be completely destroyed. Many corrupted corporations had data stored there, Enron among many others. The stored information is now gone. You can pretty easily see that this building should never have fallen under this circumstance, yet it did. I don't buy the "official story" at all. 9/11 was a black flag operation. It was slitting our own throats to allow us to move full steam ahead as a "new empire". If anyone really doubts this they should be reading the information put forth by PNAC (Project for a New American Century). They have outlined exactly how they plan to debase America, and reduce our rights until we are but a shell of a free society. Socialism here we come.

Just wait, before long our courts will declare guns illegal, because the "idiots" can't be trusted to protect themselves, and begin taking peoples weapons away. This is when the **** is going to hit the fan, and I believe people will really start to wake up at this point. Time will tell...

Ugh, will people stop calling this a great movie when just the beginning alone is filled with blatant lies?

Here, let me try it: Hitler liked to make people bathe in monkey feces. Hitler was bad, so therefore any nonsense thing I say about him that makes him look worse is true.

Yes. It is possibly the most thought-provoking video I have ever seen.

It provokes many thoughts about how so many people can be so stupid as to believe this pile of ****.

Ugh, will people stop calling this a great movie when just the beginning alone is filled with blatant lies?

Here, let me try it: Hitler liked to make people bathe in monkey feces. Hitler was bad, so therefore any nonsense thing I say about him that makes him look worse is true.

SpaceMoose

I love you.:oops:

Yes. It is possibly the most thought-provoking video I have ever seen.

It provokes many thoughts about how so many people can be so stupid as to believe this pile of ****.

Dracargen

This is what I see as the intent of this video. To provoke true critical thinking and thought. America has lost the ability to think critically it seems, given the non-stop day to day disinformation and misinformation we get through the TV the we are all watching. THINK FOR YOURSELF, QUESTION AUTHORITY!

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="ferret837"]im not sure if i believe it but they did raise interesting points.......... such as the way building 7 collapsed,Truth_Seekr

what was unusual about it?

Its unusual in that it collapsed the same way as a building collapses with explosives, but its probably possiable it collapsed from the fire. But why wasnt it mentioned in the 9/11 comission is all im wondering notconspiracy

thirdly, the collapse was not like a controlled demolition for 2 reasons. 1: controlled demolition take on the order of a few seconds. tower 7 took 16 seconds to collapse if you include the penthouse. 2: There were no explosions all along the facade of the buildings like ALL other controlled demolitions

There was no inferno. The biggest fires in Tower 7 were on 3 floors(floors 11, 12 and 28 ) at most and were described as small blazes compared to WTC 1 & 2. Tower 7 took less then 7 seconds to collapse at free-fall speed, had the usual "kink" in the building that many witnessed and it coincidentially fell into it's own footprint as well right into it's own basement. If that isn't descriptive on a controlled demolition, than America must've taught me wrong. This building right here, Tower 5 had a much more ferocious inferno going thru it for much longer time, and yet it never fell.

do you know how much explosives would be needed for it to collapse?...

Ugh, will people stop calling this a great movie when just the beginning alone is filled with blatant lies?

Here, let me try it: Hitler liked to make people bathe in monkey feces. Hitler was bad, so therefore any nonsense thing I say about him that makes him look worse is true.

SpaceMoose

no no that's not what happened.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Hitler

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Yes. It is possibly the most thought-provoking video I have ever seen.

It provokes many thoughts about how so many people can be so stupid as to believe this pile of ****.

jer_1

This is what I see as the intent of this video. To provoke true critical thinking and thought. America has lost the ability to think critically it seems, given the non-stop day to day disinformation and misinformation we get through the TV the we are all watching. THINK FOR YOURSELF, QUESTION AUTHORITY!

[QUOTE="jer_1"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Yes. It is possibly the most thought-provoking video I have ever seen.

It provokes many thoughts about how so many people can be so stupid as to believe this pile of ****.

DeeJayInphinity

This is what I see as the intent of this video. To provoke true critical thinking and thought. America has lost the ability to think critically it seems, given the non-stop day to day disinformation and misinformation we get through the TV the we are all watching. THINK FOR YOURSELF, QUESTION AUTHORITY!

What I mean by "questioning authority" is to have the fortitude to stand up and be willing to go against the grain regarding ANY subject. When you see rampant and unerring corruption in our government, to have the "balls" to speak up against it, and to not be scared of the people who undoubtably will try to make you look like an outsider or an outcast. This is what I hope to see, people to realize they have the power to speak up against the accepted norm. Thats all Im saying. If this movie can empower your to "do your part" then it is a success. We need people like this in America, not the people who buy everything wholesale. Its good that you would question what these guys put forth, but just know that the religion you are siding with is lying to you as well...

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="jer_1"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Yes. It is possibly the most thought-provoking video I have ever seen.

It provokes many thoughts about how so many people can be so stupid as to believe this pile of ****.

jer_1

This is what I see as the intent of this video. To provoke true critical thinking and thought. America has lost the ability to think critically it seems, given the non-stop day to day disinformation and misinformation we get through the TV the we are all watching. THINK FOR YOURSELF, QUESTION AUTHORITY!

What I mean by "questioning authority" is to have the fortitude to stand up and be willing to go against the grain regarding ANY subject. When you see rampant and unerring corruption in our government, to have the "balls" to speak up against it, and to not be scared of the people who undoubtably will try to make you look like an outsider or an outcast. This is what I hope to see, people to realize they have the power to speak up against the accepted norm. Thats all Im saying. If this movie can empower your to "do your part" then it is a success. We need people like this in America, not the people who buy everything wholesale. Its good that you would question what these guys put forth, but just know that the religion you are siding with is lying to you as well...

Because the Church is running a giant international conspiracy that has been going on for two thousand years that was implemented by Constantine and Jesus to control the entire world with their evil brainwashing rays.:roll:

What I mean by "questioning authority" is to have the fortitude to stand up and be willing to go against the grain regarding ANY subject. When you see rampant and unerring corruption in our government, to have the "balls" to speak up against it, and to not be scared of the people who undoubtably will try to make you look like an outsider or an outcast. This is what I hope to see, people to realize they have the power to speak up against the accepted norm. Thats all Im saying. If this movie can empower your to "do your part" then it is a success. We need people like this in America, not the people who buy everything wholesale. Its good that you would question what these guys put forth, but just know that the religion you are siding with is lying to you as well...

jer_1

Look at his "rebuttal" to the criticism. :lol: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/q&a.htmTotal-KO

everyone has an argument to make!

Look at his "rebuttal" to the criticism. :lol: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/q&a.htmTotal-KO

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="ferret837"]im not sure if i believe it but they did raise interesting points.......... such as the way building 7 collapsed,jlh47

what was unusual about it?

Its unusual in that it collapsed the same way as a building collapses with explosives, but its probably possiable it collapsed from the fire. But why wasnt it mentioned in the 9/11 comission is all im wondering notconspiracy

thirdly, the collapse was not like a controlled demolition for 2 reasons. 1: controlled demolition take on the order of a few seconds. tower 7 took 16 seconds to collapse if you include the penthouse. 2: There were no explosions all along the facade of the buildings like ALL other controlled demolitions

There was no inferno. The biggest fires in Tower 7 were on 3 floors(floors 11, 12 and 28 ) at most and were described as small blazes compared to WTC 1 & 2. Tower 7 took less then 7 seconds to collapse at free-fall speed, had the usual "kink" in the building that many witnessed and it coincidentially fell into it's own footprint as well right into it's own basement. If that isn't descriptive on a controlled demolition, than America must've taught me wrong. This building right here, Tower 5 had a much more ferocious inferno going thru it for much longer time, and yet it never fell.

do you know how much explosives would be needed for it to collapse?...

As an observer, yes, A LOT!!! Technically, no sir.

Do you know how much heat it would take to melt steel? Especially to melt it at a rate that would cause tower 7 to collapse in under 6 seconds?

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="ferret837"]im not sure if i believe it but they did raise interesting points.......... such as the way building 7 collapsed,Truth_Seekr

what was unusual about it?

Its unusual in that it collapsed the same way as a building collapses with explosives, but its probably possiable it collapsed from the fire. But why wasnt it mentioned in the 9/11 comission is all im wondering notconspiracy

thirdly, the collapse was not like a controlled demolition for 2 reasons. 1: controlled demolition take on the order of a few seconds. tower 7 took 16 seconds to collapse if you include the penthouse. 2: There were no explosions all along the facade of the buildings like ALL other controlled demolitions

There was no inferno. The biggest fires in Tower 7 were on 3 floors(floors 11, 12 and 28 ) at most and were described as small blazes compared to WTC 1 & 2. Tower 7 took less then 7 seconds to collapse at free-fall speed, had the usual "kink" in the building that many witnessed and it coincidentially fell into it's own footprint as well right into it's own basement. If that isn't descriptive on a controlled demolition, than America must've taught me wrong. This building right here, Tower 5 had a much more ferocious inferno going thru it for much longer time, and yet it never fell.

do you know how much explosives would be needed for it to collapse?...

As an observer, yes, A LOT!!! Technically, no sir.

Do you know how much heat it would take to melt steel? Especially to melt it at a rate that would cause tower 7 to collapse in under 6 seconds?

They DO back up SOME of their claims. The only thing that im weary about is the letter that the President wrote claiming he "sold out" AMerica to the central bank.

Did you create another account just to agree with yourself?Wetall_basic

LOL, I didn't notice.

Organized religion is really the true enemy of a free thinking society.jer_1

One time, I remember a religious arguement, and someone said to debunk this video. Though I didn't post it, I thought, "I'm not watching an hour long video on the Internet, LOL." Now, with these responses, I realized why no one tried.

Most people think it's a biased video with no sources to back it up. I'm talking about Part 1, IMO.

[QUOTE="jer_1"]

What I mean by "questioning authority" is to have the fortitude to stand up and be willing to go against the grain regarding ANY subject. When you see rampant and unerring corruption in our government, to have the "balls" to speak up against it, and to not be scared of the people who undoubtably will try to make you look like an outsider or an outcast. This is what I hope to see, people to realize they have the power to speak up against the accepted norm. Thats all Im saying. If this movie can empower your to "do your part" then it is a success. We need people like this in America, not the people who buy everything wholesale. Its good that you would question what these guys put forth, but just know that the religion you are siding with is lying to you as well...

DeeJayInphinity

I agree with you completely. This administration has done little less than commit treason at almost every turn they make. The FED especially (not to mention they arent even a constitutional organization)! These people are debasing our dollar and purposefully causing our economy to utterly collapse and die all for the sake of their own profit. I do focus on this subject and its my main concern because it affects many more than just myself. As I said before I will say again, just think for yourself. Dont let someone who is supposedly your "trusted" official think for you. I truely believe you have hit the nail on the head with what is truely important for Americans (or at least should be). What is happening in the upper eschelons of our government and why are they letting/making the dollar fail?

Check this out... The FED intenionally destroying our dollar

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="jer_1"]

What I mean by "questioning authority" is to have the fortitude to stand up and be willing to go against the grain regarding ANY subject. When you see rampant and unerring corruption in our government, to have the "balls" to speak up against it, and to not be scared of the people who undoubtably will try to make you look like an outsider or an outcast. This is what I hope to see, people to realize they have the power to speak up against the accepted norm. Thats all Im saying. If this movie can empower your to "do your part" then it is a success. We need people like this in America, not the people who buy everything wholesale. Its good that you would question what these guys put forth, but just know that the religion you are siding with is lying to you as well...

jer_1

I agree with you completely. This administration has done little less than commit treason at almost every turn they make. The FED especially (not to mention they arent even a constitutional organization)! These people are debasing our dollar and purposefully causing our economy to utterly collapse and die all for the sake of their own profit. I do focus on this subject and its my main concern because it affects many more than just myself. As I said before I will say again, just think for yourself. Dont let someone who is supposedly your "trusted" official think for you. I truely believe you have hit the nail on the head with what is truely important for Americans (or at least should be). What is happening in the upper eschelons of our government and why are they letting/making the dollar fail?

Check this out... The FED intenionally destroying our dollar

I remember watching this clip a while back. Kinda funny how the mic just all of a sudden "cuts off" as he gets to the good part

Never saw it, but from what i hear, it sounds like some raving guy making up conspiracy theories based on nothing but nothing.

Though i kinda am a fan of conspiracy theories, i think it would be a waste of time.