Have you ever thought about how the Earth is basically...

I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancesboyer2

I dont know where you got that info, but the theory states something completely different, it just seems that when science take its time to explain something religious people just try to use it as proof that a god exist, which makes no sense.

With Earth's chemistry and just the general laws of physics being fine tuned to a very specific fundamental values, its hard to believe that this universe was not created sometimes. The question is... by what? An all powerful being? Or another race of aliens that just treat us like we treat the Sims? Or is it actually an a coincidence?

[QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"][QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancejalexbrown

Probably because one has a logic support

reminds me of how they make pickles....what is it anyways? is it a vegetable?

reminds me of how they make pickles....what is it anyways? is it a vegetable?

White_wolf_eye

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"] You are assuming it was created by something. What you should really be saying is "how was the universe formed" Gunslinger_1988

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reminds me of how they make pickles....what is it anyways? is it a vegetable?

mattbbpl

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"] If God created the universe out of nothing, then the real question should be who created God? CosmicZombie

Probably because one has a logic support

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] I think it's interesting that the idea of G-d being infinite somehow bothers scientists, but the idea of matter being infinite doesn't bother them in the least.jalexbrown

Probably because one has a logic support

Time hasnt always been around, existing before and after time is entirely possible in the case of energy, besides he stated infinite amount, not time.

Sometimes I do think about that.

I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancesboyer2

I'm more of a Zeus believer.

[QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"][QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancejalexbrown

It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancesboyer2

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"] If God created the universe out of nothing, then the real question should be who created God? sSubZerOo

It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"] If God created the universe out of nothing, then the real question should be who created God? sSubZerOo

It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

[QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancegameguy6700

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existanceVirtual_Price

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] I think it's interesting that the idea of G-d being infinite somehow bothers scientists, but the idea of matter being infinite doesn't bother them in the least.jalexbrown

It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

.................................... Thats on the forfronte of their minds, they don't make baseless assumptions with no evidence or any mathmatical research to pass it up.. To me it seems like you need to inform your self on things like astrophysics before you try to criticize it.. Because no where have they ever said that matter was eternal, or the universe is eternal.. Infact they found evidence on teh contrary that the universe has a end..

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] I think it's interesting that the idea of G-d being infinite somehow bothers scientists, but the idea of matter being infinite doesn't bother them in the least.mattbbpl

It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

Except those are based on mathmatics... God can not be explained through mathmatics, the being defies any kind of research.. Infact there is a theoretical idea that god is infact in all of us.. Or that we are merely the products of a simulation within a program.. yet again these are merely scientific ideas that have not been made into theory..

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It doesn't "bother" scientists.. Nor do they claim that matter is infinite.. And if god "bothers" scientists its because the fact its a unfounded theory with no evidence.

sSubZerOo

.................................... Thats on the forfronte of their minds, they don't make baseless assumptions with no evidence or any mathmatical research to pass it up.. To me it seems like you need to inform your self on things like astrophysics before you try to criticize it.. Because no where have they ever said that matter was eternal, or the universe is eternal.. Infact they found evidence on teh contrary that the universe has a end..

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] They don't claim that matter is infinite, but they sure as hell aren't very quick to ask what made matter in the first place.jalexbrown

.................................... Thats on the forfronte of their minds, they don't make baseless assumptions with no evidence or any mathmatical research to pass it up.. To me it seems like you need to inform your self on things like astrophysics before you try to criticize it.. Because no where have they ever said that matter was eternal, or the universe is eternal.. Infact they found evidence on teh contrary that the universe has a end..

Then don't make baseless assumptiosn on things you have no clue about. Furthermore astrophyiscs can effect every one on this planet when it comes to things like meteor strike, or a solar flare.. Things we can either prepare for, or flat out prevent (meteor strike being stopped gravitational towing, something put forward by the people of the study you seem to not care for)..

[QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existanceVirtual_Price

I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancesboyer2

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[QUOTE="Gunslinger_1988"][QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancejalexbrown

It's quite simple, really: "God" only comes into the equation if time is finite (Requiring matter/energy to be created - note that this is actually in direct contradiction of a scientific law, unlike an infinite timespan). If "god" is also infinite and was not created, then this breaks a fundamental point in the pro-"God" side: that all actions must have a source or cause. Once that point is broken, there is no need to bring God into the equation because you have already opened the possibility of matter/energy having existed eternally.

Also, it doesn't bother "scientists". Science currently does not have a theory of exactly how matter and energy originated, to my knowledge.

[QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existanceMigsPlusEight

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thats old news to me buddy ;)

[QUOTE="sboyer2"]I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existanceVirtual_Price

I think all planets are amazing chemistry experiments. Like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter, or Ice Giants that still have gases. All that stuff is amazing chemistry in action

sort of, i always think about what Carl Sagan said that we are made of star stuff, because all elements heavier than hydrogen and helium were created inside a star or through a super nova is crazy to think about :P

yeah, or rather Earth is just a reactant. reacting to what though is more interesting to me.

i think derailed threads must be locked.And my congratulations to the troll,he destroyed the thread:P

I pity believe that the world just happened to be created by a giant boom where chemicals which didn't exist just collide together to make life :roll: It's stuff like this which proves God's existancesboyer2

No i never think of it like that. Other people are should think for moi :D

I look up at the night sky all the time and think about it.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] I think it's interesting that the idea of G-d being infinite somehow bothers scientists, but the idea of matter being infinite doesn't bother them in the least.jalexbrown

Matter is infinite? I thought scientists believe in there being a finite amount of matter/energy in the universe.

You have it backwards. The big bang happened ~13.7 billion years ago, and before that the universe was a singularity, so time can be disregarded before then. So we only see and feel the effect of masses 13.7 billion light years away.