Here's a fact that may make your blood boil

...or not if you like living in ignorant bliss

If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.

Malcolm X 

Occupy Arrests Near 8,000 As Wall Street Eludes Prosecution

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/occupy-wall-street-arrests_n_3326640.html

Seems to me the world is completely backwards.

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

lol.

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

airshocker

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

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Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

frannkzappa

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

frannkzappa

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

FrostyPhantasm

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

metroidprime55

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

Pirate700

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome. I won't defend the unveiling though which was poorly executed.

Pirate700

Have to disagree with you, brother. It's a big cash grab and a sad attempt to woo us twenty-something year olds. They've forgotten who made them great: Gamers.

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

whipassmt

If you're not gaming on PC, you're doing it wrong.

also Nintendo

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome. I won't defend the unveiling though which was poorly executed.

airshocker

Have to disagree with you, brother. It's a big cash grab and a sad attempt to woo us twenty-something year olds. They've forgotten who made them great: Gamers.

I don't think they have at all. The point of the conference was just to announce, show and give the broad vision. MS chose to get the extra fluff stuff out of the way and will focus (supposedly) completely on games at E3. Sony is chosing to show that later. Either way, both companies will strive to be all-in-one centers of the living room whether or not us hardcore gamers like it not.

Pirate700

They have because they focused on a TV component that should be nothing more than a tertiary plus. They've gone against ALL consumer feedback and are implementing a used game fee AND requiring an internet connection.

Sony isn't striving to be a multimedia all-in-one. Everything from their reveal was mostly about games. Nor are they FORCING me to have an internet connection to play. The new Xbox FORCES you to have an internet connection to register your games and will make you reconnect every 24 hours.

I'm sorry, but I will NEVER support a company that adds a fee in order to let me play a SINGLEPLAYER game. Never.

Speaking from my own blissful ignorance, how many of the "oppressed" were merely victims of their own poor choices?

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I don't think they have at all. The point of the conference was just to announce, show and give the broad vision. MS chose to get the extra fluff stuff out of the way and will focus (supposedly) completely on games at E3. Sony is chosing to show that later. Either way, both companies will strive to be all-in-one centers of the living room whether or not us hardcore gamers like it not.

airshocker

They have because they focused on a TV component that should be nothing more than a tertiary plus. They've gone against ALL consumer feedback and are implementing a used game fee AND requiring an internet connection.

Sony isn't striving to be a multimedia all-in-one. Everything from their reveal was mostly about games. Nor are they FORCING me to have an internet connection to play. The new Xbox FORCES you to have an internet connection to register your games and will make you reconnect every 24 hours.

I'm sorry, but I will NEVER support a company that adds a fee in order to let me play a SINGLEPLAYER game. Never.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't think they have at all. The point of the conference was just to announce, show and give the broad vision. MS chose to get the extra fluff stuff out of the way and will focus (supposedly) completely on games at E3. Sony is chosing to show that later. Either way, both companies will strive to be all-in-one centers of the living room whether or not us hardcore gamers like it not.

airshocker

They have because they focused on a TV component that should be nothing more than a tertiary plus (or center of the living room. However they worded it). They've gone against ALL consumer feedback and are implementing a used game fee AND requiring an internet connection.

Sony isn't striving to be a multimedia all-in-one. Everything from their reveal was mostly about games. Nor are they FORCING me to have an internet connection to play. The new Xbox FORCES you to have an internet connection to register your games and will make you reconnect every 24 hours.

I'm sorry, but I will NEVER support a company that adds a fee in order to let me play a SINGLEPLAYER game. Never.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't think they have at all. The point of the conference was just to announce, show and give the broad vision. MS chose to get the extra fluff stuff out of the way and will focus (supposedly) completely on games at E3. Sony is chosing to show that later. Either way, both companies will strive to be all-in-one centers of the living room whether or not us hardcore gamers like it not.

whipassmt

They have because they focused on a TV component that should be nothing more than a tertiary plus. They've gone against ALL consumer feedback and are implementing a used game fee AND requiring an internet connection.

Sony isn't striving to be a multimedia all-in-one. Everything from their reveal was mostly about games. Nor are they FORCING me to have an internet connection to play. The new Xbox FORCES you to have an internet connection to register your games and will make you reconnect every 24 hours.

I'm sorry, but I will NEVER support a company that adds a fee in order to let me play a SINGLEPLAYER game. Never.

I don't think Microsoft is taking the game thing seriously. They're just putting out a new system b/c they kinda have to now and are hoping that multiplats and XBL will rake in as much cash this gen as last.

I'll stick with PC.

Why is this thread system wars?

hmm. Why did the "protestors" get arrested? If they broke laws then they should be arrested.

So what happens if you get an Xbox one but don't have an internet connection? The thing won't work at all?

whipassmt

Exactly.

Sony specifically said in their presser that they ARE striving to be an all in one entertainment center. They just didn't dwell on it. As for the internet connection, not only do we not know whether or not Sony will do the same, what percentage of people that buy these new consoles wouldn't have them hooked up the the internet anyway? I can't imagine it would be more than 1-2%.

Pirate700

We do know, Pirate. They've specifically said they are going to be tolerant of connection losses, but they have unequivocally said that you need an internet connection for the Xbox One. GameSpot even has a Q&A that proves it, which I will link with an edit.

Sony won't do the same, they've already said.

It doesn't matter, Pirate. I travel with my consoles sometimes. Why should I have to connect it to the internet if I just want to play a single-player game?

GameSpot Interview

That would also entail connecting a bunch of XBOXes to a network just to have a LAN party, wouldn't it?

But IIRC, they decided against the always online req

prob because of the really heated reaction to the rumors

Xbox One will block used games, will be weaker with respect to the RAM and the GPU which is 50% weaker than the PS4 GPU, will require an internet connection every 24 hours and will seem to be catered to non-gamers in general. 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

Kinect is also stupid, I don't want to sound like a lunatic talking to myself to move sh*t on screen, I can use the controller. And Kinect no matter how accurate will never be able to replace a controller in any meaningful way. You can't just make a gun with your hand like a little kid and start aiming at enemies on screen. 

PS4 is better so far, and it's not even up for debate. 

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome. I won't defend the unveiling though which was poorly executed.

Pirate700

Have to disagree with you, brother. It's a big cash grab and a sad attempt to woo us twenty-something year olds. They've forgotten who made them great: Gamers.

actually, Google just told me that it requires internet connection

those fvcks

i h8 them

That would also entail connecting a bunch of XBOXes to a network just to have a LAN party, wouldn't it?

But IIRC, they decided against the always online req

prob because of the really heated reaction to the rumors

coolbeans90

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We're going to have CONSTANT messes like the one we had with SimCity. I'm sorry, but I'm not touching the Xbox One.

Wondering if M$ is going to treat this gen as a cash in and then duck out of the game industry forever

it really looks ugly

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Sony specifically said in their presser that they ARE striving to be an all in one entertainment center. They just didn't dwell on it. As for the internet connection, not only do we not know whether or not Sony will do the same, what percentage of people that buy these new consoles wouldn't have them hooked up the the internet anyway? I can't imagine it would be more than 1-2%.

airshocker

We do know, Pirate. They've specifically said they are going to be tolerant of connection losses, but they have unequivocally said that you need an internet connection for the Xbox One. GameSpot even has a Q&A that proves it, which I will link with an edit.

Sony won't do the same, they've already said.

It doesn't matter, Pirate. I travel with my consoles sometimes. Why should I have to connect it to the internet if I just want to play a single-player game?

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BossPerson

I know that we know MS is doing it. I said we don't know how connected the PS4 will have to be. And I completely agree that it's silly to have to be connected once per day even to play a single player game. I just think the issue is greatly overblown for 95+% of the people who will be purchasing either console.

Pirate700

I would wager the PS4 won't. People love their console for the ability to play games without a fee. Hell, I even have a recurring one year subscription for PS+ because I support Sony in what they're doing.

Now, I've never been a Playstation guy. I bought their console to play the exclusives. But this gen, I might have to change simply because of principle.

I don't want these ridiculous restraints on the way I play.

If you're not gaming on PC, you're doing it wrong.

also Nintendo

Aljosa23

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

We're going to have CONSTANT messes like the one we had with SimCity. I'm sorry, but I'm not touching the Xbox One.

airshocker

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

That would also entail connecting a bunch of XBOXes to a network just to have a LAN party, wouldn't it?

But IIRC, they decided against the always online req

prob because of the really heated reaction to the rumors

BossPerson

apparently you didn't read the part marked "update"

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Sajo7

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

If you're not gaming on PC, you're doing it wrong.

also Nintendo

BossPerson

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

You're an idiot.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

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Sajo7

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

We're going to have CONSTANT messes like the one we had with SimCity. I'm sorry, but I'm not touching the Xbox One.

Pirate700

Sim City really didn't need the always online requirement

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

If you're not gaming on PC, you're doing it wrong.

also Nintendo

coolbeans90

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

You're an idiot.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]microstuttering say what?

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

BossPerson

You're an idiot.

idiotically

microstuttering say what?

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

BossPerson

smh

enjoy your sub-HD 20fps nonsense 

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Person0

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

microstuttering say what?

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

Aljosa23

smh

enjoy your sub-HD 20fps nonsense