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#51 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]microstuttering say what?

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

BossPerson

You're an idiot.

i exaggerate sometimes

it was a really bad post

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Sajo7"] Wow seriously? This is looking more and more like a PC gen for me.* *Assuming those stats are legit, where did you find them?BossPerson
But those states don't take into account THE CLOUD which seems to be what MS keeps talking about.

how would that even work? How could you offload physics and AI processing without being constantly connected to the net? Would a dev have to program a game to work online and offline? Would some games only work online?

I'm just gonna guess its all marketing bullshit. it doen't seem like it could actually work.

 

 

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#53 heeweesRus
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Xbox One is the next Gen watercooler

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#54 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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We shouldn't. SimCity legitimately had to always be connected. With the Xone, presumably once it's connected once for that day/cycle, it doesn't matter if your connection goes down while playing.

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But they plan on having games that will use cloud computing. What happens when the cloud goes down, or my internet goes out when I'm playing this game that is heavily reliant on the cloud?

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#55 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

microstuttering say what?

Driver updates say what?

brb, need to shell out 250 on a new card

brb, might as well upgrade whole system

brb, working the mines to get some cash

BossPerson

Microstuttering only happens on systems that SLI/Crossfire-enabled, and is still incredibly rare.
Driver updates constantly improve performance. I don't see the issue
You can get a new card as soon as the next generation begins and be set for the next 3-4 years.

smh

enjoy your sub-HD 20fps nonsense 

bro..... 30fps. aiit? tbh, I was on the edge about buying a pc, and i still may save up for one. Im waiting a couple months into 2014 to see which way i should go gaming wise

Enjoy darksouls at 30 fps while i do 60 fps. But yeah, microstuttering is rare, driver updates happen automatically, a good card will last you at least 4 years. However i guess you could say that consoles are like those wood panel station wagons from the 90s, everyone can afford one, it takes you where you need to go, but it can crap out and you're without it for weeks while they fix it, it only goes 30 mph and has bad mileage. PC's are like Audi's, stylish, go very fast, you can resell them down the line for lots of money to get a new one.
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#56 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

You're an idiot.

coolbeans90

i exaggerate sometimes

it was a really bad post

sorry you eyes had to witness that. dont cry
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#57 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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it was a really bad post

coolbeans90

Agreed. CB is soon to join the darkside.

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#58 Goyoshi12
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I love what you guys've done with the thread.

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#59 frannkzappa
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I fvcking love what i did to this thread. :D

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#60 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

We shouldn't. SimCity legitimately had to always be connected. With the Xone, presumably once it's connected once for that day/cycle, it doesn't matter if your connection goes down while playing.

airshocker

But they plan on having games that will use cloud computing. What happens when the cloud goes down, or my internet goes out when I'm playing this game that is heavily reliant on the cloud?

I have no clue. I'd like to think once/if they start using the cloud as a secondary source of power that they will have some sort of backup plan in case it goes down for a length of time. Again, I don't think consoles should HAVE to be connected either but I'm just trying to put it in a somewhat rational light.

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#61 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I have no clue. I'd like to think once/if they start using the cloud as a secondary source of power that they will have some sort of backup plan in case it goes down for a length of time. Again, I don't think consoles should HAVE to be connected either but I'm just trying to put it in a somewhat rational light.

Pirate700

No, you're trying put it in a good light. :P I don't want my console to rely on the cloud in order to play a game. There are too many times my internet goes out, even for just a couple of minutes because my wife accidentally kicked over the router.

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#62 whipassmt
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so if Xbox one needs to be connected to the internet, how is it connected? Do you hook it up to a phone line via a wire, do you need a special wireless adapter, or does it have a built in receptor that could connect wirelessly to the internet if you have a router (I think laptops and now some desktops have those built in wi-fi receptors).

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#63 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]i exaggerate sometimesBossPerson

it was a really bad post

sorry you eyes had to witness that. dont cry

i hope you are ashamed of yourself

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#64 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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so if Xbox one needs to be connected to the internet, how is it connected? Do you hook it up to a phone line via a wire, do you need a special wireless adapter, or does it have a built in receptor that could connect wirelessly to the internet if you have a router (I think laptops and now some desktops have those built in wi-fi receptors).

whipassmt

Says it has both an ethernet port and wireless.

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#65 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I have no clue. I'd like to think once/if they start using the cloud as a secondary source of power that they will have some sort of backup plan in case it goes down for a length of time. Again, I don't think consoles should HAVE to be connected either but I'm just trying to put it in a somewhat rational light.

airshocker

No, you're trying put it in a good light. :P I don't want my console to rely on the cloud in order to play a game. There are too many times my internet goes out, even for just a couple of minutes because my wife accidentally kicked over the router.

Yeah it seems kind of strange. I find the "cloud" to be overrated. I save my files to my computer (hard drive) and/or a flash drive (though some files I have said to my "M drive" which is run by my college and I can access it over the internet with a username and password).

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#66 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

so if Xbox one needs to be connected to the internet, how is it connected? Do you hook it up to a phone line via a wire, do you need a special wireless adapter, or does it have a built in receptor that could connect wirelessly to the internet if you have a router (I think laptops and now some desktops have those built in wi-fi receptors).

airshocker

Says it has both an ethernet port and wireless.

Okay so I could hook it up to a phone jack through the port (though that means I'de have to figure out where to put it, I can't think of any phone jacks in my house that it would make sense for me to hook the xbox 3 (or "one") up to). Wireless seems like a good idea (still I'de prefer a console to only require a tv, the console and control,the disk or cartidge, a tv and a power source, not adding the extra requirement of an internet connection).

Also what do you need to hook the 360 up to Xbox live? Would I need another router or wireless adaptor? I have a router in my parents' room attached to the desktop and my sister's laptop is able to get internet wirelessly because of that router, so can I connect my 360 just with that (it's in my room, which is next to my parents' room so it's fairly close to the router)? I'm interested in hooking it up so I can download Halo 2 onto it. (Since I have Halo 1 Anniversary edition, 3, 4, ODST and Reach), I recently beat Reach and the first two levels of Halo CE Anniversary Edition, so I'de like to download 2 (since the disk would only work on the original Xbox) and maybe play that before going on to re-beat 3 and then play 4.

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Okay so I could hook it up to a phone jack through the port (though that means I'de have to figure out where to put it, I can't think of any phone jacks in my house that it would make sense for me to hook the xbox 3 (or "one") up to). Wireless seems like a good idea (still I'de prefer a console to only require a tv, the console and control,the disk or cartidge, a tv and a power source, not adding the extra requirement of an internet connection).

Also what do you need to hook the 360 up to Xbox live? Would I need another router or wireless adaptor? I have a router in my parents' room attached to the desktop and my sister's laptop is able to get internet wirelessly because of that router, so can I connect my 360 just with that (it's in my room, which is next to my parents' room so it's fairly close to the router)? I'm interested in hooking it up so I can download Halo 2 onto it. (Since I have Halo 1 Anniversary edition, 3, 4, ODST and Reach), I recently beat Reach and the first two levels of Halo CE Anniversary Edition, so I'de like to download 2 (since the disk would only work on the original Xbox) and maybe play that before going on to re-beat 3 and then play 4.

whipassmt

Do you really not know what the difference is between a phone and ethernet cable? No, the Xbox One requires broadband, that mean it cannot go through phone lines. While they look similar, ethernet cables are bigger and the ports are larger as well.

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#68 Slashless
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>Defending the Xbox One (what a stupid name) lol PC and Wii-U when it's dirt cheap for me.
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#69 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

Okay so I could hook it up to a phone jack through the port (though that means I'de have to figure out where to put it, I can't think of any phone jacks in my house that it would make sense for me to hook the xbox 3 (or "one") up to). Wireless seems like a good idea (still I'de prefer a console to only require a tv, the console and control,the disk or cartidge, a tv and a power source, not adding the extra requirement of an internet connection).

Also what do you need to hook the 360 up to Xbox live? Would I need another router or wireless adaptor? I have a router in my parents' room attached to the desktop and my sister's laptop is able to get internet wirelessly because of that router, so can I connect my 360 just with that (it's in my room, which is next to my parents' room so it's fairly close to the router)? I'm interested in hooking it up so I can download Halo 2 onto it. (Since I have Halo 1 Anniversary edition, 3, 4, ODST and Reach), I recently beat Reach and the first two levels of Halo CE Anniversary Edition, so I'de like to download 2 (since the disk would only work on the original Xbox) and maybe play that before going on to re-beat 3 and then play 4.

airshocker

Do you really not know what the difference is between a phone and ethernet cable? No, the Xbox One requires broadband, that mean it cannot go through phone lines. While they look similar, ethernet cables are bigger and the ports are larger as well.

the ethernet cables are the yellow ones right (I thought they were gray but I checked on my computer and the yellow one is labled as "ethernet")? There is one of those hooked into my router. Also isn't DSL broadband. I have DSL and my router is hooked into the phone jack.

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Here's another fun fact: girls can tell a good looking guy apart from a ugly one.

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the ethernet cables are the yellow ones right (I thought they were gray but I checked on my computer and the yellow one is labled as "ethernet")? There is one of those hooked into my router. Also isn't DSL broadband. I have DSL and my router is hooked into the phone jack.

whipassmt

Ethernet cables can be any color.

ethernet_vs_telephone.jpg

See how the Cat 5(ethernet) cable is bigger?

Your DSL modem may plug into the phone jack, but you still must have a ethernet cable going from your router into the Xbox One, or you must connect wirelessly.

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#72 dave123321
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Xbox one seems to make some grave missteps
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#73 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

the ethernet cables are the yellow ones right (I thought they were gray but I checked on my computer and the yellow one is labled as "ethernet")? There is one of those hooked into my router. Also isn't DSL broadband. I have DSL and my router is hooked into the phone jack.

airshocker

Ethernet cables can be any color.

ethernet_vs_telephone.jpg

See how the Cat 5(ethernet) cable is bigger?

Your DSL modem may plug into the phone jack, but you still must have a ethernet cable going from your router into the Xbox One, or you must connect wirelessly.

okay. I would use the wireless connection if it is built into the xbox 3, (the ethernet cable is connected to the router on end and the computer on the other, so I can't hook it up to the xbox). More importantly how would I hook up the 360 in order to get live, do I need an adapter or something, or does it also have a built in wireless connection?

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>Defending the Xbox One (what a stupid name) lol PC and Wii-U when it's dirt cheap for me.Slashless
Join the PS4 masterace, slashless :twisted:

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

the ethernet cables are the yellow ones right (I thought they were gray but I checked on my computer and the yellow one is labled as "ethernet")? There is one of those hooked into my router. Also isn't DSL broadband. I have DSL and my router is hooked into the phone jack.

whipassmt

Ethernet cables can be any color.

ethernet_vs_telephone.jpg

See how the Cat 5(ethernet) cable is bigger?

Your DSL modem may plug into the phone jack, but you still must have a ethernet cable going from your router into the Xbox One, or you must connect wirelessly.

okay. I would use the wireless connection if it is built into the xbox 3, (the ethernet cable is connected to the router on end and the computer on the other, so I can't hook it up to the xbox). More importantly how would I hook up the 360 in order to get live, do I need an adapter or something, or does it also have a built in wireless connection?

Get a better router that has more LAN ports, or buy the adapter for the 360.

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#76 dave123321
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Microsoft has been really shitty at pr stuff for this stuff
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#77 dramaybaz
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Goes for any media.
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I like the Malcolm X quote 

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#79 junglist101
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Lol at this thread.

I will resist the temptation to join the system discussion.

Tc, it certainly is bullshit and makes me sick to my stomach to think that the rich are BLATANTLY avoiding prosecution simply because they are rich and powerful.  It's hard for my mind to comprehend how this goes on and right in front of our faces with no effort to hide it.

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If y'all like call of duty videos, go check out this new youtuber! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arpGhDT-8dc
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Not a fact.

Here's a fact that may make your blood boil + post in question = not reading enough books.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

metroidprime55

What's wrong with it?

Everything...

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

Pirate700

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome.

LOL
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I don't read newspapers ever; I save them for my animals.
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#85 indzman
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

themajormayor

I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome.

LOL

LOL LOL LOL

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#86 Serraph105
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people still read newspapers?

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#87 kuraimen
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Yeah those Wall Str... oh wait this is SW, sorry... oh no wait, let me check... hmm, I'm confused :(

 

Well the X1 sucks...

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Stick to picking on the Xbox One. You're much more agreeable that way.

FrostyPhantasm

oh god, don't tell me some people are actualy defending the xbox one.

What's wrong with it?

Anti consumerism....
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Maybe Microsoft will listen to the public
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#90 tocool340
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lol wow! This turned into system Wars real quick...:lol:
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I'll defend the X1 because it's going to be awesome. I won't defend the unveiling though which was poorly executed.

Pirate700

I don't like the name though. When I hear "Xbox one" I kinda think of the original xbox.

That's why xone seems to be the name that's sticking. Less confusing. :P

When written like that it looks like the Greek letter X, which has a "ch" sound. So "chone". I think that's what I'm gonna call the new Microsoft console from now on.

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8,000?! So that's what's what happened to the OWS movement.