Hey cop lovers, try and spin this. 66 year old man assaulted by cop.

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#1 m25105
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I'm looking forward to how you lot are going to spin, I'm expecting the usual "We don't know all the circumstances"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoC4DXuSsSI&feature=youtu.be

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Just use the link if the embed doesn't work
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Ridiculous that he wasn't fired, the fact that he turned off his audio equipment is clear evidence that he was planning to beat this poor man up, and they even tazered him while he was on the ground.

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#4 Smashbrossive50
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What's wrong with the old guy? did he do something stupid or just standing there,I know the cops don't like him for a reason but that doesn't mean he could beat the poor old guy...poor old guy,he didn't deserve that
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What's wrong with the old guy? did he do something stupid or just standing there,I know the cops don't like him for a reason but that doesn't mean he could beat the poor old guy...poor old guy,he didn't deserve thatSmashbrossive50
No one really knows, the cop tried to disable the dashcam before he assaulted the guy.
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#6 Smashbrossive50
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If the dashcam was offline,are there any bypassers seeing this?
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#7 l34052
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This says it all...

Crooked white cops:evil::evil:

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#8 m25105
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If the dashcam was offline,are there any bypassers seeing this?Smashbrossive50
I think his nephew was the only witness, but the cop could make up any excuse in court since the sound was off (he failed to turn off the dashcam completely, which really makes you wonder what his intentions were other than to beat up some old black guy) and can just tell the court that he was being verbally threatened.
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People are jerks, but to treat an entire group of people like renegades simply because of the false actions of some individuals from within the group is a false action in itself.

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#10 Smashbrossive50
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if I were the Supreme Court justice I would give him a doing time in jail for beating up a black guy,and I suppose that he had a bad case of racism,don't police ever show respect,patriotism and they abruptly forsake the " To Serve and Protect" motto only because the target does not look like him? such a shame,men are born equal no matter how they look like
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LOL.....love how you automatically insult anyone that might disagree.
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Going to the States requires me to understand the meaning of " The Land of the Free" the " free" part comes in my mind that says...is it right to beat up anyone just because it's a free country? I would say no,freedom in living does not count in free to attack anyone,even if that person was a government official
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Going to the States requires me to understand the meaning of " The Land of the Free" the " free" part comes in my mind that says...is it right to beat up anyone just because it's a free country? I would say no,freedom in living does not count in free to attack anyone,even if that person was a government officialSmashbrossive50
Please don't visit......we don't need people that feel the need to rely on generalizations, stereotypes, and ignorant ideas.
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if I were the Supreme Court justice I would give him a doing time in jail for beating up a black guy,and I suppose that he had a bad case of racism,don't police ever show respect,patriotism and they abruptly forsake the " To Serve and Protect" motto only because the target does not look like him? such a shame,men are born equal no matter how they look like

Smashbrossive50

Yeh throw his ass in general pop and make sure everyone knows he's a cop and that he likes to beat up elderley black guys, see how long you last in there tough guy:evil::evil:

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[QUOTE="Smashbrossive50"]Going to the States requires me to understand the meaning of " The Land of the Free" the " free" part comes in my mind that says...is it right to beat up anyone just because it's a free country? I would say no,freedom in living does not count in free to attack anyone,even if that person was a government officialLJS9502_basic
Please don't visit......we don't need people that feel the need to rely on generalizations, stereotypes, and ignorant ideas.

Then America should not pay attention to fake perception of stereotypes,I was there in the last 2 winters before you say this
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#16 KingOfAsia
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He was dangerous. He had a knife and gun

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Going to the States requires me to understand the meaning of " The Land of the Free" the " free" part comes in my mind that says...is it right to beat up anyone just because it's a free country? I would say no,freedom in living does not count in free to attack anyone,even if that person was a government officialSmashbrossive50
Not sure what point you're trying to make but what I can tell you is our police are power tripping community college rejects who hope you'll give them a reason to taze and beat you.  If you encounter one make sure you act afraid and kiss their ass as much as possible.

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Doesn't matter if he is 66 or 25. If he is a threat then he needs to be neutralized.

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People are jerks, but to treat an entire group of people like renegades simply because of the false actions of some individuals from within the group is a false action in itself.

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this. Not at all justifying what the cop did, but that doesn't make every cop bad.

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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

People are jerks, but to treat an entire group of people like renegades simply because of the false actions of some individuals from within the group is a false action in itself.

turtlethetaffer

this. Not at all justifying what the cop did, but that doesn't make every cop bad.

Yeah but the ratio of good cops to bad cops is dwindling.  Most of them are hyper aggressive and think they can dish out physical punishment(which is exactly what a tazer has become, a punishment tool) via electrocution because you say or do something they simply don't like.  They have a them vs. us attitude and view law abiding citizens as their subordinates.  

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#21 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

People are jerks, but to treat an entire group of people like renegades simply because of the false actions of some individuals from within the group is a false action in itself.

junglist101

this. Not at all justifying what the cop did, but that doesn't make every cop bad.

Yeah but the ratio of good cops to bad cops is dwindling.  Most of them are hyper aggressive and think they can dish out physical punishment(which is exactly what a tazer has become, a punishment tool) via electrocution because you say or do something they simply don't like.  They have a them vs. us attitude and view law abiding citizens as their subordinates.  

Says who...? Most cops I know are very friendly people who just want to do their job.

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Is the fact that the man is 66 somehow relevant?

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Is the fact that the man is 66 somehow relevant?

worlock77

Older people are generally viewed as harmless, so it implies the guy was defensless.

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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

this. Not at all justifying what the cop did, but that doesn't make every cop bad.

turtlethetaffer

Yeah but the ratio of good cops to bad cops is dwindling.  Most of them are hyper aggressive and think they can dish out physical punishment(which is exactly what a tazer has become, a punishment tool) via electrocution because you say or do something they simply don't like.  They have a them vs. us attitude and view law abiding citizens as their subordinates.  

Says who...? Most cops I know are very friendly people who just want to do their job.

I know cops also but I met them when they were off and there's a big difference.  Try making small talk with one that's in uniform and see how responsive they are.  When they pull a person over for even the most minor offence they act like blow hards even once they discover you're not a threat.  I have encountered the police several times throughout my life and this is what I have observed and I look and act like a law abiding citizen. 

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This says it all...

Crooked white cops:evil::evil:

l34052
No need to spin race into this. I've been harassed by a black cop for no good reason.
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]Yeah but the ratio of good cops to bad cops is dwindling.  Most of them are hyper aggressive and think they can dish out physical punishment(which is exactly what a tazer has become, a punishment tool) via electrocution because you say or do something they simply don't like.  They have a them vs. us attitude and view law abiding citizens as their subordinates.  

junglist101

Says who...? Most cops I know are very friendly people who just want to do their job.

I know cops also but I met them when they were off and there's a big difference.  Try making small talk with one that's in uniform and see how responsive they are.  When they pull a person over for even the most minor offence they act like blow hards even once they discover you're not a threat.  I have encountered the police several times throughout my life and this is what I have observed and I look and act like a law abiding citizen. 

Well basically my point is that not all cops are going to beat up elderly men :|

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#27 xmanfan91
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It was stated the guy had an illness and didnt even have a knife.

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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Says who...? Most cops I know are very friendly people who just want to do their job.

turtlethetaffer

I know cops also but I met them when they were off and there's a big difference.  Try making small talk with one that's in uniform and see how responsive they are.  When they pull a person over for even the most minor offence they act like blow hards even once they discover you're not a threat.  I have encountered the police several times throughout my life and this is what I have observed and I look and act like a law abiding citizen. 

Well basically my point is that not all cops are going to beat up elderly men :|

Not all, but the fact is his superiors aren't dealing with this in the same manner it would be dealt, if it was a civilian assaulting an elderly man. The cop assaults someone, and gets a slap on the wrist, If it were a civilian, there would be jail time and the cops would end up beating the civilian.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is the fact that the man is 66 somehow relevant?

turtlethetaffer

Older people are generally viewed as harmless, so it implies the guy was defensless.

I dunno. I've met some pretty tough old people. My grandfather, for instance, was still charging into burning buildings at 66 years old.

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is the fact that the man is 66 somehow relevant?

worlock77

Older people are generally viewed as harmless, so it implies the guy was defensless.

I dunno. I've met some pretty tough old people. My grandfather, for instance, was still charging into burning buildings at 66 years old.

Doesn't matter. At 66 his reflexes and mind would be going. He'd be getting weaker. Biology doesn't lie.
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Just because some police officers are dicks doesn't mean all are.

Granted in some countries like Russia or America there are more bad ones than in other countries. 

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#32 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is the fact that the man is 66 somehow relevant?

worlock77

Older people are generally viewed as harmless, so it implies the guy was defensless.

I dunno. I've met some pretty tough old people. My grandfather, for instance, was still charging into burning buildings at 66 years old.

I was just saying, I'm not saying that all old people are harmless. But they are generally viewed that way by society.

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Wasn't it stated the old man had an illness? So it wasn't really his fault and he looked like he had an illness.

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I think it's all a misunderstanding. Poor guy. Dementia is always sad to see.
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Just because some police officers are dicks doesn't mean all are.

Granted in some countries like Russia or America there are more bad ones than in other countries. 

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Does the fact the other officers are fine with his actions, and thus do not arrest him and charge him with assault... Maybe suggest they're dicks for allowing this to happen?
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Just because some police officers are dicks doesn't mean all are.

Granted in some countries like Russia or America there are more bad ones than in other countries. 

Nibroc420

Does the fact the other officers are fine with his actions, and thus do not arrest him and charge him with assault... Maybe suggest they're dicks for allowing this to happen?

The ones who allowed it are also dicks. I highly doubt every police officer in the world agree's with it. 

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]Yeah but the ratio of good cops to bad cops is dwindling.  Most of them are hyper aggressive and think they can dish out physical punishment(which is exactly what a tazer has become, a punishment tool) via electrocution because you say or do something they simply don't like.  They have a them vs. us attitude and view law abiding citizens as their subordinates.  

junglist101

Says who...? Most cops I know are very friendly people who just want to do their job.

I know cops also but I met them when they were off and there's a big difference.  Try making small talk with one that's in uniform and see how responsive they are.  When they pull a person over for even the most minor offence they act like blow hards even once they discover you're not a threat.  I have encountered the police several times throughout my life and this is what I have observed and I look and act like a law abiding citizen. 

A lot of the way police treat you has to do with your attitude and demeanor. Plenty of law adibing citizens become irate when pulled over by the police because "why are you harrassing a law abiding citizen!!?? Don't you have real bad guys to catch!!?".

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Just because some police officers are dicks doesn't mean all are.

Granted in some countries like Russia or America there are more bad ones than in other countries. 

toast_burner

Does the fact the other officers are fine with his actions, and thus do not arrest him and charge him with assault... Maybe suggest they're dicks for allowing this to happen?

The ones who allowed it are also dicks. I highly doubt every police officer in the world agree's with it. 

I'm more so referring to that detachment in particular. Cop does something wrong, no other cops care enough to do anything. We see it happen a lot.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Does the fact the other officers are fine with his actions, and thus do not arrest him and charge him with assault... Maybe suggest they're dicks for allowing this to happen?Nibroc420

The ones who allowed it are also dicks. I highly doubt every police officer in the world agree's with it. 

I'm more so referring to that detachment in particular. Cop does something wrong, no other cops care enough to do anything. We see it happen a lot.

Because it doesn't help public perception of authority if they're always questioning or calling each other out on how they handle problems. There's a reason they deal with officers like this behind closed doors.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Older people are generally viewed as harmless, so it implies the guy was defensless.

Nibroc420

I dunno. I've met some pretty tough old people. My grandfather, for instance, was still charging into burning buildings at 66 years old.

Doesn't matter. At 66 his reflexes and mind would be going. He'd be getting weaker. Biology doesn't lie.

That's a crock of shit. The state of your mind and reflexes aren't dependant upon your age.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I dunno. I've met some pretty tough old people. My grandfather, for instance, was still charging into burning buildings at 66 years old.

worlock77

Doesn't matter. At 66 his reflexes and mind would be going. He'd be getting weaker. Biology doesn't lie.

That's a crock of shit. The state of your mind and reflexes aren't dependant upon your age.

They deteriorate with age.
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Filthy cop,if it was the other way around they would lock his ass up with the quickness
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There's a reason they deal with officers like this behind closed doors.chrisrooR
Telling someone to go home, and not eat desert, isn't "Dealing with officers behind closed doors" Treating Officers like their actions are infallible,(especially after situations like this) doesn't help public perception either.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Doesn't matter. At 66 his reflexes and mind would be going. He'd be getting weaker. Biology doesn't lie.Nibroc420

That's a crock of shit. The state of your mind and reflexes aren't dependant upon your age.

They deteriorate with age.

Not necessarily. It has more to do with your overall condition than your age. But why am I bothering to argue with a contrarian shit-troll?

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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]There's a reason they deal with officers like this behind closed doors.Nibroc420
Telling someone to go home, and not eat desert, isn't "Dealing with officers behind closed doors" Treating Officers like their actions are infallible,(especially after situations like this) doesn't help public perception either.

I understand that. I'm not saying it's perfect. But there ARE two sides to every story. And it seems like this whole thing was a misunderstanding. The officer was under the impression that the man had a knife, and decided in the moment to engage him physically. It's sad, but dementia can make you look like you're engaging in criminal activity. I'm not going to blindly defend the officer, but I'm also not going to jump on the bandwagon and start calling them all pigs. There are many officers out there who genuinely try and act on behalf of the good of society.
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The problem isn't police brutality: there are good cops and bad cops everywhere. It's just that most of the bad cops you hear in the news get a slap on the wrist.

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The problem isn't police brutality: there are good cops and bad cops everywhere. It's just that most of the bad cops you hear in the news get a slap on the wrist.

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Which gives the public the perception that Cops can brutalize people and will not face any consequences.
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Same as always: People who rely on generalizations of a group of people based on the actions of a few individuals are complete and utter morons in my book.

It's like saying everyone on the planet hates America because the internet is full of people with the mentality of an angsty white teenager from the suburbs.

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Holy fvcking shit. THERE ARE BAD POLICE OFFICERS? No way...

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Holy fvcking shit. THERE ARE BAD POLICE OFFICERS? No way...

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I suppose the real issue is the way the department deals with this kind of interaction.