Hey cop lovers, try and spin this. 66 year old man assaulted by cop.

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#101 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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So if a police officer starts shooting people for no apparent reason while at work, nobody can legally stop him? 

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What if the officer knows what the reason is?

So they should just polietly ask him to stop shooting them and explain? Police officers aren't perfect, they can still go insane.

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I dont have to. Burden of proof is always on the accuser.Nibroc420

Translated to: I can't.

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#103 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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So they should just polietly ask him to stop shooting them? Police officers aren't perfect, they can still go insane.

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You going to stop asking me stupid questions, or do I have to respond to you like you're a five year old?

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#104 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]I dont have to. Burden of proof is always on the accuser.airshocker

Translated to: I can't.

No, legally I'm not required to. If someone accuses you of breaking a law, it's their job to prove it. This old man did not have to prove his innocence, he's to be assumed innocent. Until there is sufficient evidence to prove his guilt, he is not guilty. This officer attacked a man, without proper cause, and as such, his actions were unlawful. If someone is unlawfully detaining, or physically touching you, or a loved one, without consent, you're allowed to defend yourself.
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#105 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So they should just polietly ask him to stop shooting them? Police officers aren't perfect, they can still go insane.

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You going to stop asking me stupid questions, or do I have to respond to you like you're a five year old?

You said any situation. That is a possible situation. 

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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]Thats crazy. So that cop can just beat the eff out of a old man like that and were all just forced to sit and watch?airshocker

You can't interfere in any type of police matter as a citizen. Why that scenario be any different?

I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.
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No, legally I'm not required to. If someone accuses you of breaking a law, it's their job to prove it. This old man did not have to prove his innocence, he's to be assumed innocent. Until there is sufficient evidence to prove his guilt, he is not guilty. This officer attacked a man, without proper cause, and as such, his actions were unlawful. If someone is unlawfully detaining, or physically touching you, or a loved one, without consent, you're allowed to defend yourself.Nibroc420

Are we in a court of law right now? No. So obviously when I say "prove it" I mean prove to me. Which you have yet to do.

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#108 Toxic-Seahorse
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Of course a cop wouldn't understand that things with lots of Iron are considered Irony.Nibroc420

The fact that I didn't catch on to your use of FE has little to do with my profession and more to do with the amount of attention I'm actually giving to any of your posts.

The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.

To be fair, you said FE, when in reality it is Fe. Second letter is always lowercase.
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#109 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]Thats crazy. So that cop can just beat the eff out of a old man like that and were all just forced to sit and watch?Ugalde-

You can't interfere in any type of police matter as a citizen. Why that scenario be any different?

I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.

If a man starts to assault your grandmother/grandfather, you have the right to step in and come to their aid.
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#110 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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You said any situation. That is a possible situation. 

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I'm not going to quantify every single statement I make. If you want to continue to be an idiot do it to someone who is actually going to read anymore of your posts.

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#111 DaBrainz
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We need to start holding these scumbags accountable. This is what happens when the police are left to police themselves.
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#112 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]No, legally I'm not required to. If someone accuses you of breaking a law, it's their job to prove it. This old man did not have to prove his innocence, he's to be assumed innocent. Until there is sufficient evidence to prove his guilt, he is not guilty. This officer attacked a man, without proper cause, and as such, his actions were unlawful. If someone is unlawfully detaining, or physically touching you, or a loved one, without consent, you're allowed to defend yourself.airshocker

Are we in a court of law right now? No. So obviously when I say "prove it" I mean prove to me. Which you have yet to do.

We're talking about law. Something you as an officer should know about. Unless you have a legal reason to hit someone, your actions are unlawful. Doesn't matter if you're a cop or a citizen. Citizens have the right to defend themselves from any unlawful attacks or detainment.
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#113 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

You can't interfere in any type of police matter as a citizen. Why that scenario be any different?

Nibroc420
I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.

If a man starts to assault your grandmother/grandfather, you have the right to step in and come to their aid.

I would hope so. I mean they tazed the guy once he was already restrained. How can anyone defend this?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Of course a cop wouldn't understand that things with lots of Iron are considered Irony.Nibroc420

The fact that I didn't catch on to your use of FE has little to do with my profession and more to do with the amount of attention I'm actually giving to any of your posts.

The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.

hahaha owned.
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I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.Ugalde-

I'm not particularly scared. My family has never had any bad encounters with police officers.

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#116 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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We're talking about law. Something you as an officer should know about. Unless you have a legal reason to hit someone, your actions are unlawful. Doesn't matter if you're a cop or a citizen. Citizens have the right to defend themselves from any unlawful attacks or detainment.Nibroc420

No, I'm talking about you proving to me what the officer in question did was illegal.

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#117 liberalus
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Ugalde-"] I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.Ugalde-
If a man starts to assault your grandmother/grandfather, you have the right to step in and come to their aid.

I would hope so. I mean they tazed the guy once he was already restrained. How can anyone defend this?

cops tend to feel the need to do things like this to make themselves important.......its like u give them a tool (gun) and they feel they need to use it...but when there is no rational time to use the gun, they still use it, just satisfying their adrenaline rush

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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.airshocker

I'm not particularly scared. My family has never had any bad encounters with police officers.

Helps to be a part of "the family" eh?
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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.airshocker

I'm not particularly scared. My family has never had any bad encounters with police officers.

maybe because u are one urself......
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The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.Nibroc420

No, it shows my lack of interest in the majority of what you post.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]We're talking about law. Something you as an officer should know about. Unless you have a legal reason to hit someone, your actions are unlawful. Doesn't matter if you're a cop or a citizen. Citizens have the right to defend themselves from any unlawful attacks or detainment.airshocker

No, I'm talking about you proving to me what the officer in question did was illegal.

I take it you never watched the video or read any of the news reports following it?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.airshocker

No, it shows my lack of interest in the majority of what you post.

what grades did u make in high school and what was ur sat score?
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maybe because u are one urself......liberalus

Most of my family doesn't share my last name, so I'm not sure how it would matter that I'm a cop.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.airshocker

No, it shows my lack of interest in the majority of what you post.

Your lack of interest in the law, or holding officers accountable for their unlawful actions is showing as well.
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I take it you never watched the video or read any of the news reports following it?Nibroc420

Nope.

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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]I wasnt sure. It just seems very scary to think a cop can just beat a family relative right in front of you and your forced to sit and watch.airshocker

I'm not particularly scared. My family has never had any bad encounters with police officers.

Well not all cops are bad. But clearly these two were. If you can defend them then you probably arent the best cop either. Around where I live the cops are complete jerks. A couple towns up though the cops are cool. It's really weird.
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]maybe because u are one urself......airshocker

Most of my family doesn't share my last name, so I'm not sure how it would matter that I'm a cop.

well ur family is WASP..im guessing things would be different if u all were black
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Of course a cop wouldn't understand that things with lots of Iron are considered Irony.Nibroc420

The fact that I didn't catch on to your use of FE has little to do with my profession and more to do with the amount of attention I'm actually giving to any of your posts.

The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.

That is really hitting below the belt.

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Your lack of interest in the law, or holding officers accountable for their unlawful actions is showing as well.Nibroc420

Not really. The only thing that's showing is my apathy to people who constantly bash on the police regardless of what they do.

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well ur family is WASP..im guessing things would be different if u all were blackliberalus

I doubt it.

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Well not all cops are bad. But clearly these two were. If you can defend them then you probably arent the best cop either. Around where I live the cops are complete jerks. A couple towns up though the cops are cool. It's really weird.Ugalde-

Where have I defended the cop in question? I haven't even watched the video.

I'm still not understanding how you can even make that distinction.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Your lack of interest in the law, or holding officers accountable for their unlawful actions is showing as well.airshocker

Not really. The only thing that's showing is my apathy to people who constantly bash on the police regardless of what they do.

I dont bash the cops who hold their fellow officers accountable for their actions. I wonder why you're being so defensive about this...hmm...
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]well ur family is WASP..im guessing things would be different if u all were blackairshocker

I doubt it.

blacks get caught more for drugs even though drug use is same across all races...............things would be different. what makes u think they wouldnt be different my friend?
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I dont bash the cops who hold their fellow officers accountable for their actions. I wonder why you're being so defensive about this...hmm...Nibroc420

You bash on the police whenever you get a chance. I don't think I've ever seen you make a positive comment about cops.

Making a point doesn't mean I'm defensive about anything.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]The fact you're unable to recognize a common element, shows your lack of education. Explains why you're a cop.liberalus

No, it shows my lack of interest in the majority of what you post.

what grades did u make in high school and what was ur sat score?

That doesn't matter. You don't have to be smart to be a good cop. You just have to be a decent human being that can keep emotions in check. Too bad they mostly hire PTSD ex-military hot heads with inferiority complexes.
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blacks get caught more for drugs even though drug use is same across all races...............things would be different. what makes u think they wouldnt be different my friend?liberalus

So? What makes you think things would be different?

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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]Well not all cops are bad. But clearly these two were. If you can defend them then you probably arent the best cop either. Around where I live the cops are complete jerks. A couple towns up though the cops are cool. It's really weird.airshocker

Where have I defended anybody? I haven't even watched the video.

Well you didnt really defend them. I apologize for that. But I think in a situation like this(maybe you should watch the video so you can see what I am talking about) defending yourself against the officer seem perfectly fair. And for it to be against the law for his nephew to shoot those cops if he had a gun would be crazy. If he shot both of them it would seem perfectly justifiable to me.
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]blacks get caught more for drugs even though drug use is same across all races...............things would be different. what makes u think they wouldnt be different my friend?airshocker

So? What makes you think things would be different?

blacks get racially profiled........
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]I dont bash the cops who hold their fellow officers accountable for their actions. I wonder why you're being so defensive about this...hmm...airshocker

You bash on the police whenever you get a chance. I don't think I've ever seen you make a positive comment about cops.

Making a point doesn't mean I'm defensive about anything.

When's the last time we had a thread titled "Cop saves boy and his dog from run-away train"? Usually we just get the threads involving police brutality.
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what grades did u make in high school and what was ur sat score?liberalus

You expect me to remember what my grades were in highschool...? I haven't been in high-school in nearly 10 years, and I don't even remember my SAT score. :lol:

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blacks get racially profiled........liberalus

Some do. Not all.

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[QUOTE="liberalus"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

No, it shows my lack of interest in the majority of what you post.

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what grades did u make in high school and what was ur sat score?

That doesn't matter. You don't have to be smart to be a good cop. You just have to be a decent human being that can keep emotions in check. Do bad they mostly hire PTSD ex-military hot heads with inferiority complexes.

true dat i like how cops like to pullover successful/famous ppl in ferraris and stuff too. its like they get a kick out of it.

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When's the last time we had a thread titled "Cop saves boy and his dog from run-away train"? Usually we just get the threads involving police brutality.Nibroc420

Where you're always bashing on cops instead of being objective. Don't try and deny it.

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[QUOTE="liberalus"]blacks get racially profiled........airshocker

Some do. Not all.

more likely to if ur black
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]what grades did u make in high school and what was ur sat score?airshocker

You expect me to remember what my grades were in highschool...? I haven't been in high-school in nearly 10 years, and I don't even remember my SAT score. :lol:

it was probably low then.

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Well you didnt really defend them. I apologize for that. But I think in a situation like this(maybe you should watch the video so you can see what I am talking about) defending yourself against the officer seem perfectly fair. And for it to be against the law for his nephew to shoot those cops if he had a gun would be crazy. If he shot both of them it would seem perfectly justifiable to me.Ugalde-

I have better things to do.

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#147 liberalus
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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]Well you didnt really defend them. I apologize for that. But I think in a situation like this(maybe you should watch the video so you can see what I am talking about) defending yourself against the officer seem perfectly fair. And for it to be against the law for his nephew to shoot those cops if he had a gun would be crazy. If he shot both of them it would seem perfectly justifiable to me.airshocker

I have better things to do.

like talk to us?
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#148 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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it was probably low then.

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When an SAT score decides how smart someone is, you let me know.

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#149 Nibroc420
Member since 2007 • 13571 Posts

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]When's the last time we had a thread titled "Cop saves boy and his dog from run-away train"? Usually we just get the threads involving police brutality.airshocker

Where you're always bashing on cops instead of being objective. Don't try and deny it.

Being objective? What am i supposed to say? "Yep, title is correct, this certainly looks like a cop assaulted a 66 year old" Can i ask what compelled you to become a police officer?
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#150 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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like talk to us?liberalus

Like pad my post count rolling morons like yourself.