Hey you Atheist... Explain ghosts!

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#1 Steameffekt
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Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

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#2 linkthewindow
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They probably don't exist. http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Ghost
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#3 hamstergeddon
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yeah! That'll show them Atheists!!!!! Not being able to explain the existence of ghosts PROVES there's a God!!!! YEAAA!!!!
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Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera?
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#5 Vandalvideo
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So, even if accept there are ghosts, how does that prove there is a god?
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#6 Vandalvideo
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Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Brainkiller05
Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?
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#7 Theokhoth
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Atheist =/= Naturalist.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Vandalvideo
Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?

If they're visible to the eye I'm pretty sure they'd be visible on a camera too :|
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#9 leperphiliac
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If anything ghosts disaprove the theory of God, why would they be on Earth if they are meant to be in heaven or hell?
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#10 Steameffekt
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Ghosts don't exists Brainkiller05

Explain this

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#11 Theokhoth
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If anything ghosts disaprove the theory of God, why would they be on Earth if they are meant to be in heaven or hell?leperphiliac

Perhaps God will allow people's spirits to wander the Earth from time to time, like a vacation. Nobody knows what the rules are in Heaven. :P

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Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Brainkiller05
Well, camera lences aren't suppost to catch ghosts, duh...
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists Steameffekt

Explain this

God and Ghosts am confirmed.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists Steameffekt

Explain this

:lol: It's a dog.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] If they're visible to the eye I'm pretty sure they'd be visible on a camera too :|

Eyes and cameras operate fundamentally differently. Who says that ghosts can be picked up on organic and inorganic materials?
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists Steameffekt

Explain this

Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.
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#17 Steameffekt
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists leperphiliac

Explain this

Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.

Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!
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#18 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

Steameffekt
.... What ghosts? We have no evidence of such a thing occuring.. All we have is some unexplained events with people misinterpreting often times.. And a tremendously gullable society in which "Ghost Hunting" has become a large media cash cow..
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#20 JML897
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[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Explain this

Steameffekt

Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.

Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!

You're right, it would be impossible for a dog to be standing on a platform or something right behind him.

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#21 MarcusAntonius
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What ghosts?:? And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?

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[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Explain this

Steameffekt

Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.

Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!

Like there would be a **** demon just lurking over his shoulder going 'hello' like that, If you look at the photo there is a table behind them the dog could easily stand on that.

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[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Explain this

Steameffekt

Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.

Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!

.. That could be anything for all we know, for all we know its a mesh of objects at differing distances bluring together to have the uncanny resemblence of their bias towards the supernatural.. Just like when Jesus (or was it Mary?) showed up on a grilled cheese sandwich.. VERY reliable stuff.

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#24 Theokhoth
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And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?

MarcusAntonius

I bet they said the exact same thing 500 years ago. :P

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#25 Vandalvideo
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What ghosts?:? And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?

MarcusAntonius
I think atheist prove it threads are very fun. I mean, I love to see atheists (who are technically by definition making a positivist claim) not able to answer the questions.
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#26 Brainkiller05
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That video is funny.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? x8VXU6

Watch this and shut up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related

.. Yes use a ghost show, something that is trying to promote a certain view to attract viewers.. The whole ghost hunters and physic show craze is the biggest scam in modern history when it comes to media.. All it means is there are alot of really gulliable people..
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#29 MarcusAntonius
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[QUOTE="MarcusAntonius"]

And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?

Theokhoth

I bet they said the exact same thing 500 years ago. :P

No kidding. Times like these I'm thinking it's best that I don't post in OT. I'm seeing too many opportunities for me to lose my temper and get banned.

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It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.

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So in one of billions of photos, there accures a "demon", how does that make it real when it has only been "confirmed" once???
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? x8VXU6

Watch this and shut up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related

There's a difference between being rational and being ignorant. You're presuming I'm being ignorant and haven't watched these TV shows before, ofcourse I have... that's how I came to my point of view on the subject. I didn't just wake up one day and say "I'm going to say ghosts aren't real no matter how much evidence there is"
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Vandalvideo
Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?

Fatal Frame?

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It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.

dracula_16

To play Devil's Advocate (I don't really believe in ghosts), could the reverse also be true, where you're expecting nothing and felt nothing even if something happened to be there?

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Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

Steameffekt

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

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[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? sSubZerOo

Watch this and shut up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related

.. Yes use a ghost show, something that is trying to promote a certain view to attract viewers.. The whole ghost hunters and physic show craze is the biggest scam in modern history when it comes to media.. All it means is there are alot of really gulliable people..

This. Have you watched Criss Angel before!!?? he proved it's possible to walk in mid-air :o
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It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.

dracula_16
How does the fact that we are subject to emotional swaying make it unlikely that they exist?
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#38 Snipes_2
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Hey you Theist... Explain Santa!unholymight

Santa Claus was essentially created in the image of Saint Nicholas who gave presents to those who left out shoes and such for him.

"Because of the manymiraclesattributed to hisintercession, he is also known asNicholas the Wonderworker. He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model forSanta Claus, whose English name comes from theDutchSinterklaas."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

... Lets say for a second that ghosts do exist.. What does that have anything to do with being a athiest? Ghosts don't require the existence of god to exist under these circumstances..
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? StripTheSoul

Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?

Fatal Frame?

Damn, you've got him there.:D

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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

MrGeezer

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

Well explain how they don't exist...
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Vandalvideo
Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?

I do.

If we can see them, then they are reflecting or producing light.

As long as we are using a camera that is sensitive to those same wavelengths of light, then it'd show up on memory card/film.

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It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.

dracula_16

I agree with this, and I'm not an Atheist. Also, it has been proven that there are Electrical Fields within certain old houses, most prevalent in "Haunted" Houses actually. These fields can conjure Images within our minds.

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

Steameffekt

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

Well explain how they don't exist...

You present the premise and then demand that others prove it for you, peculiar approach I must say.

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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

Well explain how they don't exist...

The proof of burden is upon you to prove the existence of supernatural beings.. And based upon that, there is no evidence that is beyond a reasonable doubt.. This stuff is as bad as the UFO stuff.
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#47 HomicidalCherry
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Man, I really wanted to come up with some sarcastic witty comment for this one, but I'm too sick and tired right now. Suffice it to say that ghosts and God are both unproven and probably unrelated.

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#48 leperphiliac
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

Steameffekt

What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.

Well explain how they don't exist...

Explain how they do.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? MrGeezer

Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?

I do.

If we can see them, then they are reflecting or producing light.

As long as we are using a camera that is sensitive to those same wavelengths of light, then it'd show up on memory card/film.

And how did you rule out the possibility that the illustration of ghosts in our vision is not the result of some kind of other sense being triggered which happens to produce that image? You know, like synesthetics feel green when they see a toad or something. The mere fact that we see something does not necessitate it is actually visually apparent.
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#50 pecanin
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Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...

Steameffekt

Using same logic ''Hey you religious people explain ghost's''

if we move on to better place after we die ,what are ghost's :D