Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
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Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Brainkiller05Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? VandalvideoWho says ghosts CAN be caught on camera? If they're visible to the eye I'm pretty sure they'd be visible on a camera too :|
If anything ghosts disaprove the theory of God, why would they be on Earth if they are meant to be in heaven or hell?leperphiliac
Perhaps God will allow people's spirits to wander the Earth from time to time, like a vacation. Nobody knows what the rules are in Heaven. :P
Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? Brainkiller05Well, camera lences aren't suppost to catch ghosts, duh...
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists Steameffekt
Explain this
Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog.[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists leperphiliac
Explain this
Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog. Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!.... What ghosts? We have no evidence of such a thing occuring.. All we have is some unexplained events with people misinterpreting often times.. And a tremendously gullable society in which "Ghost Hunting" has become a large media cash cow..Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
Steameffekt
[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog. Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking!Explain this
Steameffekt
You're right, it would be impossible for a dog to be standing on a platform or something right behind him.
[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog. Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking! Like there would be a **** demon just lurking over his shoulder going 'hello' like that, If you look at the photo there is a table behind them the dog could easily stand on that.Explain this
Steameffekt
[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]Ok It think you must be joking now if you think that is real, it's a damn dog. Yeah, like a dog would be over his shoulder like that... good thinking! .. That could be anything for all we know, for all we know its a mesh of objects at differing distances bluring together to have the uncanny resemblence of their bias towards the supernatural.. Just like when Jesus (or was it Mary?) showed up on a grilled cheese sandwich.. VERY reliable stuff.Explain this
Steameffekt
I think atheist prove it threads are very fun. I mean, I love to see atheists (who are technically by definition making a positivist claim) not able to answer the questions.What ghosts?:? And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?
MarcusAntonius
Watch this and shut up[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? x8VXU6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related
.. Yes use a ghost show, something that is trying to promote a certain view to attract viewers.. The whole ghost hunters and physic show craze is the biggest scam in modern history when it comes to media.. All it means is there are alot of really gulliable people..[QUOTE="MarcusAntonius"]
And aren't these, "ATHIESTS PROVE IT!" threads getting a little old?
Theokhoth
I bet they said the exact same thing 500 years ago. :P
No kidding. Times like these I'm thinking it's best that I don't post in OT. I'm seeing too many opportunities for me to lose my temper and get banned.
It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.
Watch this and shut up[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? x8VXU6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related
There's a difference between being rational and being ignorant. You're presuming I'm being ignorant and haven't watched these TV shows before, ofcourse I have... that's how I came to my point of view on the subject. I didn't just wake up one day and say "I'm going to say ghosts aren't real no matter how much evidence there is"[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? VandalvideoWho says ghosts CAN be caught on camera? Fatal Frame?
It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.
dracula_16
To play Devil's Advocate (I don't really believe in ghosts), could the reverse also be true, where you're expecting nothing and felt nothing even if something happened to be there?
[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]Watch this and shut up[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? sSubZerOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-SxMrWdJ8&feature=related
.. Yes use a ghost show, something that is trying to promote a certain view to attract viewers.. The whole ghost hunters and physic show craze is the biggest scam in modern history when it comes to media.. All it means is there are alot of really gulliable people.. This. Have you watched Criss Angel before!!?? he proved it's possible to walk in mid-air :oHow does the fact that we are subject to emotional swaying make it unlikely that they exist?It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.
dracula_16
Hey you Theist... Explain Santa!unholymight
Santa Claus was essentially created in the image of Saint Nicholas who gave presents to those who left out shoes and such for him.
"Because of the manymiraclesattributed to hisintercession, he is also known asNicholas the Wonderworker. He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model forSanta Claus, whose English name comes from theDutchSinterklaas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]
Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.
... Lets say for a second that ghosts do exist.. What does that have anything to do with being a athiest? Ghosts don't require the existence of god to exist under these circumstances..Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera? Fatal Frame?[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? StripTheSoul
Damn, you've got him there.:D
[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]
Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
MrGeezer
What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.
Well explain how they don't exist...[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? VandalvideoWho says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?
I do.
If we can see them, then they are reflecting or producing light.
As long as we are using a camera that is sensitive to those same wavelengths of light, then it'd show up on memory card/film.
It's unlikely that they exist. The human mind can be manipulated very easily with emotions. If you spend a night in a house that's supposedly haunted, you probably will say that you heard strange noises or that you felt a cold prescense. That's your mind playing tricks on you. If you convince yourself that you'll feel something, you will feel it.
dracula_16
I agree with this, and I'm not an Atheist. Also, it has been proven that there are Electrical Fields within certain old houses, most prevalent in "Haunted" Houses actually. These fields can conjure Images within our minds.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]
Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
Steameffekt
What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.
Well explain how they don't exist...You present the premise and then demand that others prove it for you, peculiar approach I must say.
[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]
Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.
Well explain how they don't exist... The proof of burden is upon you to prove the existence of supernatural beings.. And based upon that, there is no evidence that is beyond a reasonable doubt.. This stuff is as bad as the UFO stuff.Man, I really wanted to come up with some sarcastic witty comment for this one, but I'm too sick and tired right now. Suffice it to say that ghosts and God are both unproven and probably unrelated.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]
Just something I wanted to know from anAtheist's point of view...
Steameffekt
What's to explain? Ghosts don't exist.
Well explain how they don't exist... Explain how they do.Who says ghosts CAN be caught on camera?[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Ghosts don't exists, you're telling me in a world were everyone and there mother has a cellphone which has a camera there isn't a single convincing ghost caught on camera? MrGeezer
I do.
If we can see them, then they are reflecting or producing light.
As long as we are using a camera that is sensitive to those same wavelengths of light, then it'd show up on memory card/film.
And how did you rule out the possibility that the illustration of ghosts in our vision is not the result of some kind of other sense being triggered which happens to produce that image? You know, like synesthetics feel green when they see a toad or something. The mere fact that we see something does not necessitate it is actually visually apparent.Please Log In to post.
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